Comparing the problems of a kid from a war torn nation and someone that is angry about the seats they have been sitting in and enjoying for almost 10 years isn't a fair comparison. We don't live under those conditions and she does have a right to be mad, this FO is not only running off the casual fan, they are now pissing off the loyal season ticket holders. I have feeling her anger isn't just coming from the moving of her seats, but a lot of things and this is the part that pushed her to this point..... perspective. Watching my friend get murdered in front of me at 19, I can relate to the kid very much, my prospective is similar to his only because it was forced upon us.
Foregive me if this is wrong, and please correct it. I'm aware of only one move from the south end lower east section to the North end 200 level. I was told by team officials that the supporters specifically requested and agreed to that move. What am I missing?
You are missing Celt’s relating the storming of the beach at Normandy to the supporters groups’ holding down the North End
A-Westie, for years your satire n care free ability to laugh at the downtrodden was just you being you. A crusty old neo-con who occasionally watched soccer. Now, you are just a cyber thug with a keyboard for a megaphone. Once again, take it easy. B- To Don, our FO tried not only in season 1 but month 1 to move the supporters section but they approached the matter among racial lines. Trying to manufacture in a different part of the Rob a supporters section for Latinos. Sponsored by Budweiser. To which Chega kindly told our FO, "Fuc{ off! We are standing together in Houston!" That was the tip of the hand we got to just how AEG approached their California Relocation Project in our Texas city. Our FO then and to this very day, will place their ambition on revenue streams and heavy handed maneuvers over any and all organically generated fanship and good natured support for our very own players. Our current leaders have to often shake their heads at the "deals" our FO cooks up. It is frustrating to say the least. Just let the working men n women have a place to zone in for their Dynamo. That was the first attempt. Unfortunately our FO kept picking away at having some FO run "La Doce" over just letting us Houstonians grow organically as MLS as a league would. Years on, it is what it is with our club's leadership. Old or new apparently Don.
I’m pretty sure there’s not an answer to DonJuegos question embedded in any of your response. He asked if the supporters groups requested or approved of the move from the south end of BBVA to the Upper North End is BBVA - your response was filled with your odd diction and rehashing of the 2006 attempt of the Dynamo to have La Doce Norte sponsored by Budweiser as the supporters section which was 13 years ago and not even remotely relevant to the question. Your answers are like the academic decathlon of Billy Madison sometimes
I clearly stated right off the bat when Don asked earlier. I do not know of the FO's requests for us in EB. I then went on to as well state that our leaders are on it. And I can ask them in the future. I.e. our next home game. You just can't take it easy can you. Smart guy. Bwhahaha!!!
How does the organization let Houstonians grown organically? I ask this because since the opening of the stadium in 2012 there has been a steady decrease in the number of people in the supporters groups. Logically, one can attribute the decrease to a number of things including the performance of the team, young bucks getting married, families etc. But how do the groups "grow organically"? I believe that most recently the organization has offered incentives such as free water, reduced prices on hotdogs, reduced prices on beer and restricted the former budweiser deck to supporters groups for that purpose. I'm not sure if those incentives have resulted in any significant increase in membership of those supporters groups. Likewise I have no knowledge of the actual makeup of the supporters groups relative to season tickets or per game tickets. What I'm saying is that it is apparent to me that the focus of the current management team is firstly to try to increase the number of persons in the supporters group end of the stadium, but I honestly don't know how they intend to accomplish that given that they've provided additional incentives which so far don't seem to have made a huge impact in the size of those groups.
Team is going to be making an announcement very soon about the supporters groups and efforts to grow it. I'm not included on all the details, I just got wind of something coming.
i can only speak for the supporters group that i was in, but egos and drama drove many people away. i remember back at Robertson, Texian Army sold 300 tickets to both the Beckham game (when he didn't show) and the 2009 playoff game against the Sounders. that was 300 tickets above our core Texian Army season ticket holders that numbered around 125.
Just got a response about 2020 season from ticket rep. "Thank you for sharing your concerns with me. Pricing has increased around the building, in your section specifically pricing increased by about 7% from $1955 to $2100. This price includes the all-inclusive food, beer, wine and soft drinks benefit that will be added to your membership for the 2020 season. The loyalty tier pricing and savings is in reference to 2020 pricing not 2019, these prices are not yet available for the public but would be happy to share with you once they are set." My response: "Does the $2100 reflect the loyalty pricing. In other words what is my season ticket going to cost next season. I have only bothered to eat in the club a few times since 2012 and really don't see the added charge as a benefit" "I’m sorry you feel adding all inclusive to your membership is not an added benefit. Your 2020 membership price will be $2,100." So actually they're fiddling with the numbers. While the seat price has increased 7 percent, there's a mandatory $315 charge for club access and meals. I'm out EDIT: So I asked a few more questions and got the following answer - which really is not an answer as I find it hard to comprehend how they can arrive at a 35% discount if they don't actually have the 2020 pricing. Must be what "average" means: "Forgive me if I seem confused, but my tickets for the 2019 season were $97.75. A single seat for upcoming games in my section (105) is going for $104 plus fees. The “Loyalty Pricing” indicates an average per game discount of 35%, I have been a season ticket holder since 2008. It seems to me that if my current seat is going to be $105 then the price of that seat for a non season ticket holder for a single game would have to be around $145 for the 2020 season. That’s a huge increase over the 2019 seat price for a non season ticket holder. Basically, the Dynamo are raising prices for my seat for the 2020 season by about 47 percent, then offering me a 35% discount on that price to achieve the $105 price and then adding a “membership fee” of $315 for something that I neither use not want. Am I correct about this?" Answer: "You are correct in that pricing has increased from $1,955 to $2,100 for the 2020 season, and there are added benefits with the increase. As I mentioned before individual game pricing for non-members is not currently available but your savings will be an average of 35%." Still out
If I am following that correctly they are actually increasing pricing by over 50% for your 100s club seats given that your seats are going up 7% after a 35% discount.
I can’t believe they were increasing prices until I got my “membership” re-enrollment notice. 7% up on a per ticket basis. Now the notice claims “you saved 25% for 2020... compared to single game pricing”. Well, how about that? Very disingenuous to try to pass an increase as savings. I’ve been on the fence whether to renew or not... this is just making the decision easier for me.
So see if I can confirm my calcs: 2019 price of $1,955 Plus: 2020 markup & club fee of $1,275 Less: 35% loyalty discount ($1,130) Equals 2020 Renewal Price - $2,100 Is that really the math?
That's the way it appears to me. 2019 seats were $97.75, for 2020 they will be $105. If $105 is the 35% discount then those seats would actually be $141.75 for a first time single game buyer in 2020. If you look at the Seattle game in my section (105), those seats are priced at $104 plus fees for the single game. So they are actually increasing 2020 prices by 35% then discounting that increase to reflect a 7% increase, then adding a Club Membership charge of $315 for access to the club with all inclusive meals and drinks. It the old "But we're giving you free food". Well I'm on a diet. If this sticks, I'm going to share my thoughts with the current FO and Brener as to why after 12 years I've decided to say goodbye. I think I'll also sign the two photos I took that are on the stadium wall
i would be down with the increase IF during this window we brought a big-name, big-money designated player. otherwise, it's kind of crappy: here's an unknown Chilean RB and a price increase!!!
According to sports club stats this team is only 60% to make the playoffs, and only 20% to make a playoff slot worth a damn (1-4). And they want to raise ticket prices based on that? Further -- they want to use a deceptive marketing scheme of raising prices then offering a discount on the raised prices so that they can claim some of sort of savings? Taking it from injury to insult.
What they are doing is nothing other than revenue yield management but calculating the increase they believe they can get to stick on the existing season ticket holders while still getting a high renewal rate. Walker ran a ticketing company so I figure they ran some calculation or algorithm on the data (although given that they’ve had so many 713 deals and discounts not sure what that purchase data says about true demand at single game face value). The fact they are claiming it as a significant discount from single game or face value is irrelevant - they aren’t going to sell many of those tickets at the face value, especially the club seats which for most games there are large amounts of them available for direct purchase from the club. They could claim it was an 80% discount on a $300 ticket or a 10% discount on a $66 ticket and they get the same renewal revenue. Just a different way to escalate pricing and get incremental revenue from the season ticket base. What it says to me is they feel it more necessary to squeeze additional revenue out of the season ticket base than actually sell new tickets
if they sell manotas or elis much less both, we will be in trouble. in theory they could make some signing in the winter, but if we fall off a cliff rest of the season they will lose baseline before trying to get people back with a new toy. to me they need to get this thing righted now or it could get ugly. both as sport and as sales/marketing. two non playoff seasons, and try and raise prices??? you would be looking at 2017 as the only decent season in recent memory. USOC was nice but that is not a decent season.
all due respect to people making fun of the woman quitting for taking their seat, but i would assume that is a last straw sort of situation where at least i used to root for a competitive team, now it's not that but at least i have my seats in the playpen where i like them at the same price as before, oh hahaha let me fix that.