2022 WC Qualifiers

Discussion in 'Ecuador - National Team' started by Primitive Ways, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. bourne1

    bourne1 Member

    Jun 21, 2015
    Croatia
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I'm watching too. It's fcking sad what Ecuador national team looks like. Like, it's 1:56am here in Croatia, and I ask myself wtf am I watching this? Horrible!
     
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  2. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Anyone feels deep down that we are going to lose this?
     
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  3. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I say take out Mendez and put Beder Caicedo as midfielder, his defensive skills and height should come in handy right now
     
  4. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Go sleep.
     
  5. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Anyone from la sub 20 would have smashed one from outside the area already.
     
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  6. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    A double pivot of Orejuela - Marques. That way we can play a #10 in a 4-2-3-1 and we can allow our younger midfielders time to develop and transition into starters.
     
  7. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Come on mang....stop doing all that extra bs and just shoot it.
     
  8. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Damn... sad to say but every Liga de Quito player played extremely HORRIBLE! They ALL suck! Why are they going to pay Valencia so much to play for them?
     
  9. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
  10. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    LMAO can't even beat Japan. Bolillo has put one of the worst teams I've seen in a while. Terrible players. Terrible coach. Fire his ass NOW!!!!
     
  11. cabezamagica

    cabezamagica Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Thank god is over,didn’t want to be Brazil’s whipping boy,we’ll leave that to the last team that faced them.
     
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  12. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I dont want to see...
    Antonio Valencia
    Jeff Intriago
    Ayrton Preciado
    Choclo Quintero
    Andres Chicaiza

    Ever again wearing our jersey.
     
  13. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Add Gruezo to that list... also Achilier, Romario Ibarra, Dominguez, and especially Bolillo needs to GTFO of Ecuador.

    Ener as well... he was horrible this Copa America. Had chances but can't freaking finish.
     
  14. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I forgot Achilier lol
     
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  15. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I'm not even mad lol once I saw the selection for the Copa America I had no hope for this team.

    Our dumb coach called up random players with no game plan in mind and needs to be fired as soon as he lands in Ecuador.
     
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  16. cabezamagica

    cabezamagica Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    True,I was hoping not to be embarrassed too much like the first game.I was more involved with the Sub 20 to be honest.We have material to put a decent squad,bringing the sub 20 kids with some veterans.I mean ,did we really want them to win ,to be Brazil’s entertainment of the week.
     
  17. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    The Sub 20 should been champions in Poland but their lack of focus in one minute cost them the championship :(

    However, those boys are ready to make the jump to the NT. Their experience and mentality are beyond their years and honestly I rather watch those boys grow into something great than watch this old Ecuador team.
     
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  18. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    ----------------------Dominguez-------------------
    Velazco----Mina------------Arboleda---Ramirez
    --------
    I understand criticizing him because he totally deserves it, However, I do not think its because lack of work, I really do believe people underestimate how critically bad is our soccer situation, let us remember that we lost 8 games in a qualifier, Peru beat us in Quito and a very weak Argentina scored 3 goals on us in El Atahualpa, that wasn't Bolillo's doing it was under Quinteros and Celico.
    He has been given the task to replace Paredez, Walter Ayovi, Antonio Valencia, Jefferson Montero, Pedro Quinonez, Felipe Caicedo, Cristian Noboa, all these guys many will call a "Golden Generation" So lets not blame the whole thing on Bolillo because he is trying to find talent in what is at the moment a talentless bunch, I do admit he has made huge mistakes on call ups and getting confident on his developing skills thinking he could mold players.

    On being mediocre, I might be guilty of being old fashioned and doubting our players but at the same time many will call me being realistic, we have not being able to produce a wold class player in over a decade, look around, what talent is there? we are using the same goalkeeper from the 2010 qualifiers, we are starting Velasco as RB when 2 months ago he was benched by Byron Castillo, I wont go hard on Mina and Arboleda because I actually like those guys and they are starters, Ramirez plays in a mediocre league but he starts.
    regarding the MLS, I wil argue all day that the MLS is inferior to our league, Concachampions they get owned by Mexican teams and heavily challenged by Central American teams, so dude, It really bothered me a player such as Mendez signed for Orlando City, because I honestly LOVED how Mendez, Plata and Plaza played in IDV and now look at him. at least there are news of Gruezo going back to Germany, lets hope its first division.

    Regarding players, I implore you to name me a solid starting line up that can compete with Colombia, Chile, Uruguay, Brasil, Argentina and even Venezuela, Because all I can remember is our players going abroad the last 4 years and flopping hard, a lot promises, players at least I thought were going to give us another solid generation, Jose Madrid, Anderson Ordonez, Dario Aimar, Xavier Arreaga, Pervis Estupinan, Josimar Quintero, Bryan Cabezas, Jacob Murillo, Cristian Aleman, Christian Penilla, Fernando Guerrero, Erick Castillo, Luis Caicedo, Carlos Gruezo, Jose Cortez, Jose Ayovi just to name a few, these players did not fulfill their potential, injuries among other things really stalled their careers, Mendez, Plaza are headed the same direction I assure you.

    Our talent pool is so dry that A LOT OF FANS are already asking for the 18-19 year old kids from the U-20 to be starters in the NT, players that havent even earned a starting role in their clubs, YES, we are that desperate.

    Lastly, the fans have their share of blame as well, I watch our LigaPro and it saddens me how well played matches are played in empty stadiums, NT friendlies in Ecuador barely sell 10k tickets, but we demand results right? The creation of LigaPro literally takes 80% of the FEF income, we are the poorest Federation in Conmebol, our clubs are broke except for 2 or 3, we got the worst referees in the Continent, its why we get so many yellows and reds internationally, our football has gotten violent in the field, just yesterday Tito Valencia got his leg fractured in a friendly game due to a strong tackle, referee didnt even call a foul lol.

    What I'm trying to say is, trust me, Bolillo is just a symptom, the real problem is our futbol has cancer and is deteriorating fast.

    I sure hope Bolillo did learn things, there 6-7 players that should not be called up anymore, players such as Andres Lopez, Marcos Caicedo, Julio brothers need to get called up, Enner needs help up front so why not try to bring Caicedo back, Miller has been starting a long time and scores frequently.
     
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  19. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I did want us to play Brazil. Bolillo needed un resultado saca técnico.
     
  20. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Lots of valid points FEF left a shit whole and downwards spiral. Chiri left a bunch of problems rise to make him seem like a good president of FEF to the point we where people wanted him back. Villacis left an even bigger problem with Bolillo.


    My biggest dislikes are the excuses and mentality Bolillo brings. Some thing I think we can all agree on. And I honestly believe something as small as a mentality change can lead us into the right dirrection and a good coach as well.


    Ecuador should be in a golden era we said it before all the success in recent years at club level. Liga, BSC IDV even Emelec. IDV at youth level and now the u20. But we cant pull this type of success and NT cause we arent doing at nt level whats beeing done at club and u20 level.


    Argentina is full of world class players what good is it to them recently? Antonio was our world class player what good was he under these cuircumstances. Not much.

    If players were really the issue the clubs and youth teams wouldnt have anything to show for. They dont have to be world class to compete. The teams Vizuete called up were competative regardless of the players he called up.


    We have always been the poorest federation and always have issues in our league but that hasnt stopped us from having our moments.
     
  21. Allan_Somewhere

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I agree with this strongly. The issue lies in the development of players on the NT. It's weird that players do well with their clubs and then are a shadow of themselves on the NT. It comes down to the coach.

    We have a talented generation of players coming up and it's up to the FEF not to waste that talent by continuing with a below average coach.
     
  22. \^the king^/

    \^the king^/ Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    wherevr da action @
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    I can understand the logic, but cant fully agree. Argentina has played finals and has stayed very relevant, albeit many times because of messi's brilliance.

    The fact that our players play well for their club vs the national team, is not only a coach issue. Its a mentality issue that is rooted well beyond the guy calling the shots. And that speaks to the overall caliber of players we are developing. Just like an employee at any company is also evaluated by how well they perform under pressure and not just how knowledgeable they are in their field.

    La camisa de la seleccion pesa diferente, and it shows on these men.
     
  23. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Yea it was just to point out that Argentina isnt where there supposed to be regardless of the fact that they have all these top players and Messi.
     
  24. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito

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