PBP: O39: D1.England - Cameroon.E3

I agree. VAR sees what the human eye can't discern in real time. Without review, Cameroon's goal would have been "even is on".

 

Why? It is true from what I have seen in both the men's and the women's sides.

 

This same dude was tweeting about women “belonging in the kitchen” not too long ago. But they want to get on their soapboxes now.

 

I have NEVER said anything like that and I EVER use twitter so clearly you have some problems with facts.

 

And you think that would have solved the problems? You end up throwing one or more of Cameroon players. You only escalate the problem. It may get even uglier with your actions.

 

I was referring to Phil Neville. So, you are the person with issues. This will be my last interaction with you.

 

You did NOT say that and I am glad to say good by.

 

What it would have done? It would have reminded everyone that there are rules to be followed for both sides. If one side dosn't want to abide by the rules, then they can forfeit the match and go away with the labels "disgrace" and "quitters" being hung over their heads for life.

You talk about escalation, but I'm not buying that one bit. The Cameroonians are responsible for their own actions, no? They were the ones escalating because the referee was too lenient in a context where a more courageous referee should have policed that one to tone things down from the get-go.

That being said, those Cameroonian girls are an utter disgrace to women's football. They were a disgrace 4 years ago, and they are a disgrace today. I'm not shy in saying it very openly. Women's football can do better without those bums.

 

She was talking about Phil Neville: it's him who tweeted that some time ago. The misunderstanding came from the fact that she was quoting @soccernutter's post that was referring both to Neville and to you.

What has this to do with what he said today? It is a common, but quite unfair argument, well-known to the rhetorics, to divert towards things that have been said in the past (as wrong as they could sound they don't invalidate what one could have said today).

Well, apart from the oratorical tone of his pose, what was exactly over the line about what he said? I genuinely ask, because frankly I felt as embarassed as him by Cameroon players' behaviour.

 

He didn’t care about the kids then and doesn’t care now. That’s whole point.

Also, y’all have an ignore buttons.

 

I don't come here to ignore people, I come here to discuss with people. Or I could just sit in my room watching the match alone and avoid opening BigSoccer.

 

I wish I can discuss about proper football, but that was ugly.

 

I do not disagree with what you said about Cameroon. I m only talking about what a ref to do. Just put yourself out there on the pitch. If you do what you said and things get uglier, are you prepare to throw out many more players and the coach and to terminate the match?

 

I'll post the highlights of the game right away (of course FIFA almost completely purged them from any controversial footage), so I can forget about this match as soon as possible:

 

If refereeing at that level requires me to show a very high level of courage in applying the laws of the game to the letter, I am prepared to toss players and coaches out.

Besides, I'd also remind the protesting side that there are consequences to each and every single one of their own actions before I take decisions. I have seen referees showing the kind of guts I always want to see when they sent off 2 players from the same team on the basis of punishable offenses.

 

Can FIFA dish a ban against a coach for comments like that? Playing the victim card after everything that had happened is laughable at best.

 

You never ref. at any level near this.
Just sit back and think about the scenario after you terminate a World cup match and send the teams home with 20k+ spectators. Cut off the TV feed to the entire world .
Courage does not mean you blow up the whole situation just because you are right or have the LOTG on your side.
Courage requires a more tempered solution. I think this ref team dealt with a very bad situation in near best way any one could have.

 

Just post the Fox Sports or BBC feed. They’re actually objective.

 

Sorry, they tried, maybe, but they didn't succeed at that. It was clear from the start that the "soft" approach wasn't going to work. Sending a Cameroonian player off didn't automatically mean to "send the teams home with 20k+ spectators" or to "cut off the TV feed to the entire world" as you dramatically say. On the contrary, I guess it would have allowed taking control of the game (of course if it had happened in time and not too late, when everything was compromised already).

You can't allow everything what we've seen today on the pitch in the name of a "show must go on" mantra.

 

I am geo-blocked out of both, I guess (out of Fox for sure). Feel free to post relevant highlights that are visible to most people around the world, if you feel like it: I'd be grateful.