Meh. This has probably been the most entertaining game thread/posts of the tournament. I'm enjoying the banter. Even if I'm confused at how a standard VAR decision that we've seen dozens of time causes such an issue.
“Know” to varying degrees, though. Barrier was the wrong word, but there are still impediments to fully effective communication in many cases at this level. Particularly with South American officials, though admittedly that doesn’t apply here.
I’m still of the opinion VAR should just be using full speed replays, the same speed the referee see. And if you aren’t willing to risk your career on changing a call, let whatever was called on the field stand.
I have an infinite amount of respect for you and your patience here, and I really mean that. But I just don't get it on this one. Every single person I've heard talk about this event that isn't a referee is stunned by the offside call. Even the Guardian, who you might think would favor England if they favor anyone, wrote that if she was offside at all, it was by a millimeter -- yes, I'm aware that an angstrom offside is still offside, but the point is that no one elsewhere seems to agree with the claim in this thread that she was "clearly" offside, except when guided by the lines.
IMO this shouldn't have been sent down. Especially considering the temperature and history of the match (which I know VAR isn't supposed to consider but they did in the 4th minute).
Article V, Section 1, Subsection 20 https://resources.fifa.com/image/up...tions-515430.pdf?cloudid=q3drmdesvc8bbmanff8d It’s a literal requirement. What the hell are you actually trying to prove? That armbands are invisible? That captains are actually mythical?
I don't want to derail the thread, but if you want to p.m. me, I'd be interested in hearing how you see the difference between arguing and discussing.
I wish I had a higher quality image, but Windows and Youtube DRM issues prevent me from taking a screen shot. The blue line is the defender. The red line is the attacker. The red line is closer to the goal line. Therefore offside.
Which is how VAR has been applied since day one at FIFA and other international events. England lost a goal much closer than this at the Nations League semis. So what do you want? A lax in application for this case? Just because people don’t like it doesn’t mean they are right. They’re wrong. Unless we change how VAR is applied to offside. But that’s a different argument for another time, if at all. Also that’s a lot more than a millimeter.
Offside is a binary condition. You are, or you’re not. It’s like saying someone is a little bit pregnant.
Going back to the situation at the end of the first half ... I really don’t have a problem with the way the referee crew handled that. Cameroon, rightly or wrongly felt like they had just been on the receiving end of a great injustice. There were only going to be about 20 or 30 seconds of play left before the halftime whistle anyway. To be overly technical and just start handing out cautions there was going to do more harm than good.
This reminds me a lot of Geiger's game in the R16 last year. Sure he could have started booking Colombian players left and right for their antics, but he gets sent home if he does. This meant he was called weak and not in control by the commentators and media. Sure the Chinese ref could have booked the Cameroon player(s), but it would have only poured more gas on the fire. But since she didn't, the media is calling her weak and not in control.