FIFA to govern CAF affairs?

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    http://www.insideworldfootball.com/...ll-help-fifa-parachute-samoura-govern-africa/

    Ceferin refuses to be railroaded into support of Infantino’s move on Africa
    http://www.insideworldfootball.com/...es-railroaded-support-infantinos-move-africa/

    Exclusive: CAF exco did not agree to cede control to FIFA or Samoura, says Tenga
    http://www.insideworldfootball.com/...t-agree-cede-control-fifa-samoura-says-tenga/


    What a mess. Not even CONCACAF in its darkest hour had to resort to this.
     
  2. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So now we have a pattern of Infantino trying to get UEFA to rubber-stamp his ideas...this should end well.
     
  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    And to think people here wanted Morocco to get the World Cup.
    CAF can't even govern their own confederation properly let alone organize a World Cup properly.
     
  4. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    CAF should do it Conmebol-style... ask FIFA to manage individual national associations which cannot govern themselves...

    .... let a few months pass, and then ask to be given hosting rights for 2030 WC.

    Oh yeah, and move your top club tournament final to Barcelona, Spain.

    Let CAF learn how corruption masters at Conmebol do.
     
    Unak78 repped this.
  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Sorry, but this makes no sense. Exactly how does the current chaos at CAF reflect on Morocco's ability to host? Did the numerous scandals at CONCACAF in the past reflect poorly on the USSF's competence?

    Mind you, many US fans would argue that the USSF is incompetent but that has nothing to do with CONCACAF. :D
     
    Unak78 repped this.
  7. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It reflects in an indirect way.
    When there is corruption coming form the top of the confederation and incompetence to the point of FIFA intervention, well... ...it is really is self -explanatory. They probably would have used their strong arm of corruption within the World Cup itself.

    And of course it was the inferior bid which is obvious.
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    No, it's not self-explanatory. Why don't you explain it? Corruption within CAF means.....the Morocco FA is corrupt and incompetent? (along with the rest of Africa?) The Moroccan FA may very well be corrupt, I honestly don't know enough about it. Point is, you can't just extend issues at the confederation level to the national associations.

    I ask you again. Did Jack Warner's theft of the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence impact the reputation of the USSF? What about the apartment for Chuck Blazer's cats?
     
    Unak78 and song219 repped this.
  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #9 HomietheClown, Jun 22, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019
    I can extrapolate it any way I please. Especially since it is so corrupt they had to put in someone from FIFA to oversee things.
    My post is that if they can't even keep their confederation clean how in the world can Morocco be considered a better choice than any alternate choice? IT is crazy to think they are better.
     
  10. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Sounds like a sweeping generalization to me. You clearly are still bitter that not everyone loved the United 2026 bid as much as you.
     
    Unak78, jus2nang and song219 repped this.
  11. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    If the shoe fits. Wear it.

    I am not bitter at people who cannot see the obvious.
     
  12. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Just ask your neighbors to the south: Conmebol contributed the highest number of indicted football executives during the 2015 scandal, and somehow that confederation is top choice for 2030 WC.

    Concacaf is right up there, too... and somehow 2026 WC will be hosted by that gangster confederation.

    It is all a race to the bottom, my pretties.
     
    Unak78 repped this.
  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    One of these things is not like the other.
    Hence , this thread.
     
  14. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This makes no sense. Who are "they"? Morocco? Since when is it a national federation's job to keep its confed on the straight and narrow?
     
    Unak78 repped this.
  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    They being the Confederation head honchos. Not Morocco themselves/
    But whatever
    I think things may get worse in the CAF Confederation before it gets better so it is like pouring salt on the wound for me to bring up failed attempts at hosting here.
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Well, where there is smoke there is fire.

    All you have to do is do a basic google search and there is some connection to corruption.
    From a website you love to quote from all the time:

    The shift of administrative power in CAF to Morocco where Ahmad has spent increasing amounts of time also bears further scrutiny.
    Ahmad supported Morocco in their losing 2026 World Cup bid and has grown closer to the Moroccans who have undergone a remarkable transformation in playing fortune on the field, leading many to privately question whether matches are being fixed.
    Morocco won the CHAN tournament in 2018 which they hosted – Africa’s second most important national team competition – while top club Raja Casablanca won the CAF Confederation Cup and triumphed again in the CAF Super Cup in Qatar last Friday.
    Last year Wydad Casablanca won the CAF Super Cup. Ahmad’s residence is in the same building as Wydad Casablanca president Said Naciri who is also a local government dignitary and vice president of the Moroccan FA.


    http://www.insideworldfootball.com/...ime-exposed-now-sex-pest-allegations-surface/
     
  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    And had you done that basic google search yourself before chiming in I would not have called you out on it. Without it it's a blanket statement.

    Anyway, moving on.
     
    Unak78 repped this.
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #18 HomietheClown, Jun 23, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2019
    Connecting the dots when a Confederation is obviously corrupt does not need a detective to figure out something is fishy with everything it touches.
    A World Cup would have been the epitome of their schemes.
     
  19. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Trust me, that dots are connected. Who needs proof?"
     
    Unak78 repped this.
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Hey man in the court of public opinion I can just make easy correlations and extrapolations.
    And my gut feeling appears to be right most of the time.
     
  21. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would a person who doesn't like President Trump use that to argue that every member of Congress or the governor of every state is bad? I'm not saying Morocco isn't corrupt, but I disagree with using CAF corruption before you knew anything about any country and applying it to Morocco. I'm American and supported the North American bid, which won without speculation about Moroccan corruption.
     
    Unak78 repped this.
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #22 HomietheClown, Jun 24, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2019
    Bringing politics into this is irrelevant to the conversation.
    When there is oversight and an extreme situation like this to the point of FIFA intervention I could easily connect the dots and say that the World Cup would have been a part of the evil schemes and it was not the best choice to play it in Morocco.
     
  23. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still being obtuse, I see?

    Let's remember that FIFA is intervening on the CAF's own request. If anything, that shows some self-awareness that we never came close to seeing from Concacaf and Conmebol in the midst of fed and confed leaders getting arrested left and right ahead of 2016.

    If we're judging national WC hosting bids by the quality of the confederation, then just let UEFA run everything from here on-

    **assistant whispers in ear about how Germany won the 2006 bid**

    Oh. Never mind, just cancel football.
     
    Unak78 repped this.
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The EX Confederation head that is corrupt had connections to Morocco.
    Why? More than likely to use the WC for more wrong doings.
    I am not saying CAF as a whole is corrupt but where there is smoke there is fire and my gut feeling seems to be right. To think people wanted Morocco to get the bid made me shake my head back then and makes me shake my head a lot more now.
     
  25. jus2nang

    jus2nang Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    North London
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Yep, it's lazy reasoning. No more than "An African organisation is corrupt/disorganised therefore all African organisations are corrupt/disorganised".
     
    Unak78 repped this.

Share This Page