USMNT: The Berhalter Era pt. 1/ World Cup 2022 /Controversy

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by hardhead, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That article is nothing but FIFA-Prop.

    The main reason they cancelled the Confederations Cup is that it was always used as the site rehearsal for the World Cup. They'd use a couple of the main venues 12 months in advance and use the opportunity to train and evaluate the organizing committee staff. They particularly liked using a brand new venue or two, giving them a shakedown cruise using a scaled down FIFA international tournament.

    But when they moved 2022 to accomodate the slave murderers, woman beaters and homosexual imprisoners in Qatar, they had a problem: they can get away with screwing up Europe's club calendar for one season but there's no way they could get away with it twice.

    So they'd have to play it the summer of 2021 and a) everyone agrees no one can play soccer in the desert in the summer and b) 18 months in advance is way too early; venues won't be ready, trained, it would accomplish nothing.

    It wasn't until later that someone decided to claim they were cancelling it because they decided to go with the Club World Cup. It was cancelled because of Qatar.
     
  2. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    And I'd rather they just get rid of everything vs having a club world cup. Is anyone excited for a club world cup?
     
    KCbus and Bill Archer repped this.
  3. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Berhalter's "system" seems pointless for a national team. At the club level, if you have the same group of players together for months, they can be trained to play it. At the national team level, a bunch of passing in your own penalty area is begging for trouble.
     
  4. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Tyler Adams out for the Gold Cup. Big blow for those who were hoping Berhalter would be proven a genius by playing his best midfielder out of position.
     
  6. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bill—good post.
    But do you think that, once the 2022 WC is done, that the Confederations Cup will be brought back?
    I mean, if FIFA is all about the cash, it seems like they would. Lots of tickets to sell in the country hosting the WC the following year; lots of TV eyeballs.
    And do they really think expanding the Club World Cup is going to bring in as much cash? Who wants to see Real Madrid play Al-ain? Or Auckland City play Raja Casablanca?
     
    hungariansteven repped this.
  7. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, my curiosity got the best of me. And since I don’t speak German, I went to Google Translate to see what “ber halter” means in German.
    It translates to “over holder.”
    How disturbingly fitting, when you consider his relentless persistence in using one formation and the constant selections of Zardes and Trapp in spite of their inability to deliver at the international level.
     
    Robbo Crewfan, hangthadj and Bill Archer repped this.
  8. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, I have the Nicaragua - Costa Rica Gold Cup game in San Jose on in the background.
    Kind of unbelievable to me how empty their stadium is. I mean, isn’t it kind of a big deal that they’re actually, you know, hosting a game in a tournament that’s always in the US and occasionally in Mexico? And the match they’re hosting is for, well, their own team?
    And what butt-ugly uniforms the Ticos have.
     
  9. coachchris

    coachchris Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    Galloway, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope you're all watching the Gold Cup! I'm out there, televising it for you!
     
    Draghignazzo repped this.
  10. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Possession at any cost : over holder
     
    Robbo Crewfan and Draghignazzo repped this.
  11. QuarkspaceDotCom

    Mar 14, 2000
    Deep in the Bluegrass Hinterlands
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    Wales
    So the USMNT's opening match of the Gold Cup is at 10PM EDT tomorrow? Great way to generate interest, USSF.
     
  12. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Maybe that’s the idea. Can’t do any damage if nobody is watching! Or perhaps they knew it would conflict with The Crew’s Open Cup game!
     
    QuarkspaceDotCom repped this.
  13. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Well, it IS out west, no?
     
  14. QuarkspaceDotCom

    Mar 14, 2000
    Deep in the Bluegrass Hinterlands
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    Wales
    St. Paul. Your westerlies may vary.
     
  15. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Ah. Well, at any rate, CONCACAF, as usual, is to blame.
     
    QuarkspaceDotCom repped this.
  16. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    #CostaRicaandNicaragua2ATX
     
    TKyle repped this.
  17. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Today I learned Guyana is not an island.

    Go USA.

    Try not to embarrass us, Gregg.
     
  18. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Never heard of Jonestown before today?
     
  19. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I fully admit that I had no idea that Guyana existed prior to our group stages being announced. I am embarrassed.
     
  20. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Sure. I just hadn't exactly planned out vacations to visit the sites of cult mass suicides.

    #onelove
     
  21. DGA57v2

    DGA57v2 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Apr 1, 2019
    We better not lose to a team from a country that CONMEBOL has rejected from their federation.
     
    hangthadj repped this.
  22. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Wait, what?

    See this is more interesting to me than Jamestown...
     
    TRUJDUB repped this.
  23. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    So, "no, I never looked at a map, not even the ones the nice newsmen provided every night"?
     
  24. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I was 20 months old when the Jonestown massacre occurred. I might be even less interested in it now than I was then.

    I far prefer the ritual suicides of the Far East by artists like Yukio Mishima.

    YMMV....
     
    Timon19 repped this.
  25. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Waiting for the Paul Schraeder film about Jim Jones?
     

Share This Page