Duvan can be a Super Sub if needed; even when he doesnt score or even assist, his presence is felt and as we saw he gave trouble to the Peruvians today.
Ok lets compare the numbers to see Duvan vs Falcao. This season is tough for Falcao because the team overall has been bad but we can also say part of that is on him, and he's also older and regressing, 32 is typically a very big drop off point for players. 2016/207 Monaco 1969 min 21G 5A 0.68xG/90 0.13xA/90 2017/2018 2148 min 18G 4A 0.64xG/90 0.08xA/90 2018/2019 2570 min 15G 2A 0.53xG/90 0.07xA/90 0.46 dribbles/game Duvan 2018/2019 Atalanta 2908min 23G 7A 0.63xG 0.31xA 1.25 dribbles/game 2017/2018 Sampdoria 2122 11G 4A 0.40xG 0.15xA 2016/2017 Udinese 3163. 10G 3A 0.37xG 0.12xA Falcao is also the main PK taker for his team most of the time, so that skews things a lot , Duvan has taken a few but not nearly as much as Falcao. So what picture does this paint? If we compare Falcao's best season when Monaco had a super team and won the league his xG is essentially about the same as Duvan's but Duvan's chance creation and expected assists is a good deal higher. Duvan also dribbles better and does just about all the other things outside of goals scoring better and in that department he's still doing better right now in a tougher league and has blown up as a player the last two seasons where he's finally put it all together. There are more advanced stats for pressures and regains that I don't have off hand but Duvan would still blow Falcao out of the water. Comparing Falcao's best year in the last 3 is still just about where Duvan is now for xG and it was in a lot weaker league with a really dominant team and he still couldn't come close to Duvan's link up play and chance creation which he's doing at an elite level for a target #9 type player. Falcao pre injury was also obviously a goal scoring machine, but going back that far doesn't really help us compare for right now, but also we see a trend where Duvan is still improving and probably about to peak in the next 2-3 years whereas Falcao is going the opposite direction quickly.
I am in agreement with the start duvan crowd, but id like to see it next to falcao. Falcao is not strong enough or quick enough to hold up play at top. Duvans strength allows him to hold the ball until the rest of the team can get involved in the build up play. How often have we seen falcao as a lone striker battling up front and losing possession either because he is not strong enough to hold the ball or he misplaces a pass under pressure? I think duvan would help in our continuity and possession, and allow us to use falcao appropriately, which at this stage of his career is as a pure and deadly poacher
Pfff.....if monaco didnt demote was thanks to falcao contribution......now he is guilty of their bad season.........scored 15 goals in one of the worse teams of the tournament....only 4 players scored ore than him in ligue 1....and 3 oh them are mbappe, cavani and thauvin....so please be careful with your demeriation. Duvan at his 27 dont have 100 goals in europe, he havent achieved nothing close to falcao have did at that age and what he have achieved in this 3 years......falcao even in these 3 years have scored in ucl to big teams like dortmund and man city...another time your ridiculization “weaker league“. If one have a name is because have won it....and the fact that falcao in his “decline“ only was surpassed by duvan in this season (in a super offenive team) just tell falcao isnt so useless as you want to show..... I hope and i wanna see that duvan keep this level and performs the same when he is without gasperini......in italy is the fame that the players of gasperini only perfomed well with him........ As i have mentioned before, the good performance of the forawrds will depende if they are well surrounded........i know that for your argument is easy to ignore the corean game where duvan was dissapearred due the bad surrorunded he was.......and he didnt show all that habilities that you always say that he have, and even agisnt panama. This isnt an issue of falcao against duvan......it wont be a madness if oneplay over the other........falcao is just not so useless as you want to demeriate (even his career) and duvan isnt allmighty...he as falcao to perfom require some conditions.
This is a general Falcao question - I’ve brought this up indirectly in a prior post, but I am curious as to what people’s expectations are. Do you all see Falcao as a 90 minute guy this Copa? Is he going to be 60-70 min and done first two two games and rested in the third assuming we are advancing? Hence why we have someone like Roger on the squad?
he not hold up play....but he constantly won dangeorus free kicks and penaltys.....so im not so sure.....maybe is confusion because he isnt super tall and fast, like eduardo lara teach us that good players us. I agree duvan and falcao would be a good experiment....but also falcao starting or duvan starter....the key is sorrounded well them..... if we want strong and fast players only...(as it seems are the conditions of being a good player) we could go to u 20 roster and select some players there.
If CQ decides to play the lone forward, then Duvan should get the nod over Falcao simply because of his size and hold up play, but I'd rather play both of them up front and sacrifice Cuadrado since he's playing like dogshit.
Cuadrado could play good but as 8, as he did agisnt panama match. He helped a lot of cardona recovering and passing fast.. ..as a wing he couldnt be an option anymore... That cardona barrios cuadrado i liked it a lot to help cardona... I would use again but leaving muriel and roger by james and duvan
Cuadrado en vez de Uribe? No me suena mucho, JGC no tiene suficiente quite para esa posición imo, y el rival fue bastante pobre para esa prueba. Creo que Juan todavía no está al 100%, Villa hubiera sido mi alternativa por el.
1.Cuadrado tiene mas recorrido.....y tiene mucha capacidad para hacer la ida y vuelta. Indpeendientemente del rival cuando entro Lerma, Cardona depsues tuvo que hacer reccorido y jugo mal. 2. Uribe viene jugando mal en esa posición, en Mexico de hecho lo pasaron a segunda linea jugar de enganche. De hecho hoy si no fuero por los goles su partido en funcionamiento no hubiera sido increible......dejaba boquetes grandes especial en primer tiempo, mejoro con el balon depsues de lo de yotun. A mi lo que me preocupa es su nivel de esta temporada.........y pues nunca he sido de subirme al wagon por goles en amistosos.......su nivel no me da muchas garantias. ..........obvio decir eso despues dle partido de hoy parece un disparate. 3. Villa perdió sus chances por sus malos partidos en Asia donde lo dejaron iniciar....muy mala toma de decisiones y obstinado en lo mismo.
Me preocupa que Cuadrado no tenga mucha experiencia en aquella posición. También es un jugador que le gusta amarar el balón y la va tener que soltarla más rápido, tampoco olvidar que juanchito vive tirado en el piso. Si el árbitro no le come cuento, quedamos mal parados en ese sector del campo. Yo confío en Uribe, para mi cumple esa función mejor que JGC, pero quizá pueda ser una alternativa. Villa no jugó bien los pasados amistosos, pero viene jugando y está mejor que Cuadrado en este momento quien acaba de regresar de una larga recuperación. Im not shitting on Cuadrado, that’s my boy, he’s just been pissing me off lately.
This team is deep, versatile and has good players in every line of the formation to choose from. Queiroz is probably more confused about who he should start against Argentina than he was back in February when he was initially hired. We have so many good options to choose from and so many different combinations of players who can be successful. That is probably what he has been dreaming of his whole life, especially since he has been known to put out different lineups depending on the opposing team formations and tactics. We got exactly what we wanted from these friendlies and I hope we build upon this confidence with a run at the Copa.
I am in the Duvan camp just because of Age We need to start looking for replacements. Falcao is 33 maybe he can make the next World Cup as a sub at 36. But honestly that would be sad we hadn’t produced a better striker in 3 years time. At a certain point we need to let go. But to say Duvan after 7 incredible months is better than Falcao is laughable. Duvan before December was an average striker with 0 goals on the NT. Got dropped for the wC and none of us argued it or cared. I want a recambio. But only when it’s actually time. Duvan needs to prove he is better. This isn’t a clear Uribe is better then Abel, Barrios/Lerma > Carlos Sanchez, Davison/Mina > Cristian Zapata. This is more of was Ospina a better goalie then Agustin Julio and Calero when he was at Nacional. But again he was like 20. Duvan has been a promise for 7 years now
On that issue I will just continue to say Falcao has a role and knows his role fully. He is still the unanimous captain and is our best high pressure penalty taker. Duvan is still trying to figure out his role. Slowly he is looking better and better but he is just not there yet in my eyes.
But wait, my app stats tell me that Duvan has made more dribble attempts... Where do you leave that information? huh? huh?
Peru has the same problem theyve had for a while. lack of goal scorers. during the wcq and wc the team was able to generate a lot of offensive plays but would never finish it. Now theyre doing neither. creation or goal scoring. I thought Medina played well and can alternate with Arias. Davinson and Mina played very well and im glad to see it. We have a bright future with those two if they keep up their form. Glad Duvan scored! Cuadrado played like trash yet again. always doing the wrong thing. When he has to pass the ball he just keeps it and runs until he is either fouled or loses it. and when he has space and can use his speed he passes the ball (mediocre passing might i add) and slows the play. He also low roundhouses kicked a peruvian player bc he lost the ball and got carded early in the game
The Medina we saw these past two games was the version I wanted to see in the 2014 cycle against Uruguay/Chile - most here know which two games I’m referring to. Time flies...
That cross that he did to Uribe was sweet for the second goal. If he keeps that up he may start over Arias (in official matches) soon.
Well medina before actually had good perfromances in friendlies.....his bad matches were official......so the test is pending.
Indeed. But I can see that Monterrey has really helped him with his game and his confidence recently. And crosses like that is something Queiroz loves to see from fullbacks. Arias in attack seems to do mostly low crosses and shots. Other than the nice assist to Falcao against Brazil which was more the exception to the rule.
Reitero el nivel de uribe no ha sido bueno esta temporada en mexico y menos jugando en linea de volantes. Si se tiene en cuenta la lesion de cuadrado tambien debos tener tener en cuenta eso de uribe. Por otro lado cuadrado si participo en esta posición con la juve esta temporada. Yo si veia venir que el puso por ese wing lo iban a disputar villa y diaz....y me quedo con el guajiro....
You can compare Falcao's best year with Monaco when they had a super team in a weaker league and Duvan still provided much more chance creation and link up play for his teammates. And if you take away his penalties Duvan's last season and Falcao's best Duvan has the better season when you consider his assists and it was a weaker team then Monaco, and obviously the advantage goes to the player who is doing those things now and younger not 3 years ago. I never said it was Falcao's fault Monaco were so bad but his play effects the team and again his numbers are inflated greatly by penalties. He doesn't contribute much outside of goals and that contributes to a team being so poor, because they sacrifice a lot to have a guy who's goal poaching. And like others have said, we need to be planning for the next World Cup and Falcao is not a realistic option to be there or for us to rely on late into qualifying, Duvan is our best option and is a better player right now, its time to give him the role and get him used to playing with Colombia and I don't think CQ wants to play a 2 striker system, 4-3-3 seems to be his preference and I agree with it, much better system.
Is curious a year ago, you justified duvan bad numbers because he played in bad teams in serie a (the same team of cuagliarella the cappocanionerir..........now that falcao scored 16 goals in his worse year (better than the other 2 years of duvan) only less than 4 other forwrdas of the ligue 1 ( along mbpappe, cavani and thibaut)..............is just shame for falcao,,,,,,so a little contradictory. The "poacher" saved monaco that have a horrible management firing the portugues and then hiring henry and firing for the portugues..........is ridiculous to think that monaco was boot because falcao little contribution......nice how you to decide ignore some context. And if you kick penalties and scored is nt a deffect like your argumentation is pretending. At this moment falcao is 32 not 36, so if we think of copa and beginning of wcq he sould be an option........he isnt in bad shape and even if he contribute he can be depsite the age........but the reality is that only this season a "younger " guy surpassed him in goals at his 27, depsite his "old age. Also we should see if duvan keep this form or if this season was another hit wonder of gasperini. Neverthless, as i said duvan and falcao will need to be well surrounded to perform.........duvan in previous match was disappeared becuase the ame reason falcao was in first half so isnt that guarantee.......
I think Falcao is #9 until proven other wise but as soon as Duvan starts scoring consistently he should start. Hope Falcao being captain doesn’t mean he has to be in the starting 11 We just can’t get in another situation where we didn’t plan for the future