MLS 2019 Attendance (Butts in Seats talk welcome)

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  1. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Announced attendance for Orlando was 22341. This means the stadium was supposedly 88% full. That means just over 1 out of every 10 seats was empty. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The shade side was pretty full, the rest of the stadium was at most 10% full and that is being generous.
    The announced attendance for this game was at least double what was there.
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Were you there? How many people were taking shelter from the sun?
     
  3. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Dude, don't even. There is no way there was even close to 22k there.
    I would be very surprised if their concourse is big enough to hold 12,000.
    90% full?
    The side of the stadium the camera was looking at had maybe 1000 people in seats.
     
  4. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    15,949
     
  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's been mentioned before that that side is in direct sunlight and people tend to hide under the stand. I'm not claiming anything, it was a simple question.
     
  6. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    19,015 in LA (Is this the smallest home game attendance since the arrive of the "Lion") Yeah I know he did play.
     
  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. firefan2001

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    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    18,495 in NJ:confused::eek:o_O With a downsized stadium this would be around 92% of capacity. I don't think so, 50% of capacity max.
     
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  9. NashSC

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    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    You are very welcome to not visit this thread. FYI
     
  10. NashSC

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    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    #35 NashSC, May 20, 2019
    Last edited: May 20, 2019
    It's a simple answer. I don't think the concourse are big enough to hold the 10-15k that weren't in the seats. And if they were there they were hiding the entire game and the concourses would be so full you wouldn't be able to move. Also it seems they are missing from the seats every single game. That really isn't a logical explanation.

    Orlando City stadium has around 9k seats on each side and 3-4k on each end. Even if the side not shown was 100% and there were 3-4k in rest of the stadium (being generous) that is 12-13k of the over 22k announced. If there were 9-10k more people in this stadium that is really remarkable and someone would post photos/videos of that.
     
  11. NashSC

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    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    #36 NashSC, May 20, 2019
    Last edited: May 20, 2019
    Week 12
    Wed 5/15
    Toronto vs DC 26,116 - 87% capacity (wikipedia says soccer capacity is 30k. i thought it was 28k)
    Houston vs Portland 13,327 - 60% capacity
    Vancouver vs Atlanta 16,138 - 73% capacity
    Seattle vs Orlando 37,722 sellout?

    Thur 5/16
    LAFC vs Dallas 22,001 sellout

    Sat 5/18
    Montreal vs New England 15,559 - 75% capacity
    RSL vs Toronto 15,949 - 79% capacity
    San Jose vs Chicago 15,232 - 85% capacity
    Philadelphia vs Seattle 18,540 sellout
    Minnesota vs Columbus 19,600 sellout
    KC vs Vancouver 18,691 sellout
    Houston vs DC 15,811 - 72% capacity

    Sun 5/19
    Orlando vs Cincinnati 22,341 - 88% capacity
    NYRB vs Atlanta 18,495 - 74% capacity (using 25k)
    Dallas vs LAFC 15,135 - 74% (using 20,500, new capacity post hall of fame construction has never been released)
    LAG vs Colorado 19,015 - 70% capacity

    week 12 total 309,672
    week 12 average 19,354
     
  12. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    I thought it would be fun to add a capacity percentage for each week. I think this gives us the best league wide look at how attendance is doing.

    I simply used 100% for the sellouts. It could be argued that a few of those should be slightly over 100% as the attendance are a little over the stated capacities.

    Week 12 total attendance 309,672
    Week 12 total capacity availability 369,726
    Week 12 capacity percentage 84%
     
  13. fairfax4dc

    fairfax4dc Member+

    Dec 5, 2008
    Fairfax, Va
    There's a joke here about measuring absolute size versus capacity percentage but it's not appropriate for this thread and probably not as funny as I think it would be anyway....
     
  14. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Week 13
    Wed 5/22
    NYRB vs Vancouver 13,035 - 52% capacity
     
  15. firefan2001

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    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    24,712 (97%) in Orlando Crowd looked pretty good, I'm sure fans that bought tickets to see Zlatan may have not attended. From TV it looked like 22-23k (86%-90%).
     
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  16. NashSC

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    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Yeah it was one of their better looking crowds in quite some time.
     
  17. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    So what is the number we are going to use for capacity for NER?
     
  18. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wikipedia has it at 20,000, so it was 100.655% of capacity.
     
  19. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Good looking crowd in Colorado.
     
  20. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Week 13
    Wed 5/22
    NYRB vs Vancouver 13,035 - 52% capacity

    Fri 5/24
    Orlando vs LAG 24,712 97% capacity
    RSL vs Atlanta 17,214 85% capacity
    LAFC vs Montreal 22,444 102% capacity

    Sat 5/25
    Chicago vs NYCFC 10,986 55% capacity
    Vancouver vs Dallas 18,309 83% capacity (this is the lowest weekend number I have seen for them maybe ever)
    NER vs DC 20,131 100% capacity (if we use 20,000 as their capacity)
    Philly vs Portland 18,474 100% capacity
    Cincinnati vs NYRB 28,290 84% capacity
    Minnesota vs Houston 19,701 102% capacity
    Colorado vs Columbus 16,843 93% capacity

    Sun 5/26
    KC vs Seattle
    Toronto vs San Jose
     
  21. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What capacity number are you using for Cincinnati? I believe capacity is 32,250, which would make the % capacity for Saturday's game at 88%.
     
  22. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Wikipedia says 33,800 so that is what I used.
     
  23. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYI the Wikipedia entry for DSG Park's soccer capacity is wrong. It doesn't take into account the changes made a few years ago. The new capacity for Rapids games is 17,424, as sent to me by the Rapids Media Head in an email (unfortunately that's not a sufficient source for Wikipedia to change its listing).
     
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  24. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    FYI, Rapids own official website says 18k.
    https://www.coloradorapids.com/stadium/complexoverview
    "DICK'S Sporting Goods Park is comprised of the 18,000-seat home stadium of the Colorado Rapids"
     
  25. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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