PBP: Liverpool FC v FC Barcelona | UEFA CL - Semifinal - 2nd Leg | 7 May 2019 [R]

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  1. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Nuff said ;)

     
  2. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    You think I’m bothered what you think ! The only guy in the world who thought that Barca played WELL on Tuesday :)

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  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    That was posted at halftime. But nice try...

    Its clear you're butthurt by my earlier post though. :laugh:
     
  4. skalomax

    skalomax Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I thought we did ok right at half time. I trusted Valverde to snap the players out of it and he should've! Pep, Enrique, even Rijkaard would have at least stabilized the players mentality at half time. But we came out worse and saw little to no motivation to get the away goal.
     
  5. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I don’t suffer fools gladly , it’s true .,

    Still worrying that you thought we played WELL in the first half ..
     
  6. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    It was a very even first half, so considering the difficulty of the opponent and venue one might logically conclude that we played well.

    If Alba had a good first half we probably would've scored and killed-off Liverpool (I did say that Alba was terrible/an exception).
     
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  7. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
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  8. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
  9. inswinger

    inswinger Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2001
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    more to the cool story:

    Maradona lost the 1990 final to West Germany, so I guess that was a choke job.

    Let's not even get started on 1994.

    And Pelé, who is always credited as having "led Brazil to 3 World Cup titles," injured himself in the second match of the 1962 tournament, and it was Garrincha who would go on to carry the Seleção to victory.

    1966: Brazil crashed out in the group stage. Choke?

    Pelé vowed he would never again play in the World Cup, a decision he would later change.


    That sounds awfully familiar...
     
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  10. inswinger

    inswinger Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 17, 2001
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    There's a report button, you know. Feel free to use it. I saw those posts, and I think they're stupid arguments (Maradona and Pele "choked" on multiple occasions, if choking means not winning the title). But unless someone reports it as trolling, I'm keeping the banhammer holstered.
     
  11. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    No need for me to betray you when you're laying out nonsense for all to see. It's not like I'm revealing any private messages or anything.
     
  12. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Re-watched the game up until 4 x 0 basically. Like I said, 1st half wasn't that bad in terms of Liverpool pressure. However, the passing was still horrendous. The start clearly EV just had the team send some long balls and then absorb pressure. There was no point to the long balls other than just give the ball away and make sure we don't get caught in possession deep in our field. Thinking is Liverpool would come out really strong with high energy. So wait until they tire a bit and then get into the game. But sure would have been awesome to have somebody with speed to try and get a counter. Unfortunately Alba coughed it up very early. I do think we could have just tried to pass it. The lanes were there quite a few times. At one point Pique in the midfield facing our goal with a bouncing ball just hoofed it over his head back towards Liverpool's field. With no pressure either. That's so uncharacteristic. Worst case scenario he passes to MAtS.

    Like I said, Liverpool weren't that threatening after first goal. Some chances but nothing too bad. And we had ours. Alba x2 and Coutinho plus 3 Messi shots. So it was not a bad half, but I feel that the passing could have been much better.

    2nd half started really bad with more bad passing. Then the 2nd goal ...

    Look at Rakitic here, could have easily turn upfield and pass the ball to Messi or Busquets, but he passes the ball to Alba right into pressure. After this it was over.

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  13. leadleader

    leadleader Member+

    Aug 19, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    #713 leadleader, May 9, 2019
    Last edited: May 9, 2019
    Pique was probably joint worse with Alba I'd argue. Pique was completely to blame for the 3-0 goal, the man who scored the header was Pique's man, and Pique was caught in lalaland... This was in fact easy to defend, but such are the monumental mental lapses of Pique on a bad day; such a great defender on a good day; and yet such an abject fuk up on nights like the second leg vs. Liverpool.

    Meanwhile, the 4-0 goal was - not completely - but largely Pique's fault, given that he is the leader of the defence, he is the veteran of the defence, and yet he is incapable of inspiring at least the energy that is required to at least defend corner kicks - this type of thing would never happen, for example, if you had John Terry screaming at you and probably also physically pushing/pulling you into position. Gerard Pique just doesn't have that, and I'm starting to believe that he might be one of Spain's big problems.

    Moreover, in the 1-0 goal Pique failed to stop Mane... granted, it was Alba who fuked up, but Pique had the chance to stop that goal and he failed at that. Not saying this was Pique's fault (obviously it was Alba's doing), just saying that on a good day, Pique stops Mane or simply blocks Mane's shot.
     
  14. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    I honestly piss at fans that whistling at Coutinho, that's the least thing your player needs when they're in bad form, the fans should have been more supportive. This is not the same case as someone who act like a rockstars such as Neymar or Icardi. Coutinho is a bit too one dimentional to my liking when it comes to scoring ability but he's still a top player overall. Valverde is mostly to blame for relying heavily on Messi and the other attacking players were being used merely as supporting cast.

    Under Lucho, MSN was made as the vocal point altogether rather than Suarez and Neymar acted as supporting casts. I've noticed this season that even Rakitic influence in midfield has been reduced alot. Too much reliance on Alba overlapping run and crosses in most games.

    As I mentioned earlier, if Pedro can look like world beater under Pep, there's no excuse for Valverde not to able to utilize Coutinho who's technically superior .
     
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  15. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I guess, but the issues you raise were only issues because Alba messed up first. So not sure how you conclude Pique was joint-worst player for failing to clean up the mess created by Alba.

    Alba at fault for 3 of the goals. Perhaps more costly though was how hopeless he was in attack. Costly since 80% of our attacks went to the left side, and died right there.
     
  16. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    pedro case is different. he may not a world class but he fit barcelona. Coutinho is the opposite,heck, he even can not touch the ball,pass the ball properly.
     
  17. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Yes he can ... his confidence is at an all time low .. blame Valverde
     
  18. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It’s not as simple as player A better than ! So should do better. It’s a question of fit . Plus you’re comparing Barca of today with it’s best version when we caught the world by surprise and they didn’t know how to deal with it.
     
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  19. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    that was manchester united game,you idiot,lol
     
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  20. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
  21. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    report:)
     
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  22. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    The timing is irrelevant... the fact that you thought that we controlled ANY game when Roberto comes on is fanciful at best..

    Also why resort to immature insults and name calling .. why even resort to reporting ANYONE ?

    I’ve been called many abusive names by you guys but I’ve never felt the need to ‘tell the teacher’ ...
     
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  23. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Wow! That's embarrassing. He's always been a bit of a troll but this is taking it to another level entirely.

    Usually this forum isn't that bad.
     
  24. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Its just not in my nature to report someone, but boy did you deserve it with that move.

    Well done. :thumbsup:
     
  25. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Logical reaction to my post .. nuff said
     

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