English players Dual Nationality thread

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  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #1401 Marcho Gamgee, Sep 10, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2018
    Not sure this really belongs here but not sure where else to put it either:



    I thought he played for England at U16 level at least then just switched to Wales. I’m not sure I believe this he was rejected because he needs to take fewer touches than others, just doesn’t make sense surely, even for a dinosaur football coach. Who was the coach back then? Dan Micciche?
     
  2. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I think it means he was too passive in games.
     
  3. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Also, it's probably just some constructive criticism. Not something that he was given as a reason for his non-selection. Plus, do we really believe someone from the FA told Tisdale that England have 12 players better? It doesn't make sense on any level.
     
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  4. Placid Casual

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  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Probably a load of bollocks tbh, find it weird that this came out before the U21 game today and surely this article will have been noticed by the FA and if he has switched/or going to, why would Boothroyd play him today and surely his teammates wouldn’t be overly happy playing with a guy that’s going to switch. Find it all odd tbh.
     
  6. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    I suspect they saw he wasn't in the squad for the first game and it gave them an idea for a made up story.

    Not sure if Lookman was asked or show the story, but he put a picture of him training with England on social media on sunday, the first photo he's put up since June.
     
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  7. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    I think it was today (Wed) that we were told Declan Rice would make an announcement? So we should find out what's going on one way ot the other.
     
  8. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
    Wonder if he will just leave it until the next international break at this point
     
  9. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    I was listening to an ITFC podcast and they were talking about Jon Walters' unveiling here, and that interest from the Irish press was piqued with regards to trying to get him to talk about the bust up with Roy Keane as they obviously had wind before it leaked.

    There was a throwaway comment by the local ITFC journo that this (the RK bust up with Arter and Walters) is linked to Declan Rice's decision with regards to the environment of the squad.

    It's certainly very different to how Wales do things with regards to youngsters with dual nationality where there is an incredibly positive atmosphere in the camp
     
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  10. greengrass81

    greengrass81 Member

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    What is Rice waiting for . He was meant to make a statement today on who he has decided to play for . Our media were all reporting that today was to be the day whether he was going to declare for Ireland or England

    He is messing us about . He should at least makes his intentions clear . If he wants to take a time out and concentrate on his club career for the next year or so then fine . But to provide no explanation to the fans and allow endless speculation to continue in the media is not on . We are been treated like dirt .He took 3 caps from another Irish player and he is cheapening what it means to wear the Irish jersey.

    We deserve better Declan.
     
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  11. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Did he himself actually say that a statement was coming, or was it just something the media reported?
     
  12. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It seems as though Roy Keane doesn't exactly support the Irish dual nationals from England. Maybe that's why Rice is a bit hesitant.
     
  13. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
    Keane is such a liability. Cant believe oneill brought him in. Poor manager, terrible team-mate who acts selfishly (walked out of ireland in the middle of a world cup if i remember). I dont blame declan.
     
  14. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Indeed. If you're Ireland or any other home nation then you need all the talent you can get. The last thing you need is someone important scaring off players. Maybe, just maybe he was a little reason as to why Grealish didn't pick Ireland.
     
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  15. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Dan Crowley has a lot to look forward to! Good luck fella, you’re going to need it.
     
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  16. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Just the press. It was the stuff in the Irish press about a week ago saying that he'd decided in Ireland's favour and would make an announcement today. If the latter has turned out not to be true then I guess that undermines the credibility of the rest of it.
     
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  17. greengrass81

    greengrass81 Member

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    O' Neill should offer Rice an ultimatum. Pick him in the next squad for the match against Denmark and if he pulls out. He should tell him good luck with England.
     
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  18. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
     
  19. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I'm not sure where I stand on this. I don't know how principled we can afford to be and what it actually gains us in the long run. In hindsight it's hard to say we shouldn't have capped Zaha earlier, especially given that he's basically admitted that the disinterest from England is the main reason he made the switch.
     
  20. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Disappointed that we lost Ethan but can't same I'm too fussed about Lookman.
     
  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I’ve always quite liked him tbh, he’s a bit raw but plenty of potential plus he adds to our talent pool that gets less and less.
     
  22. Manchester21

    Manchester21 Member

    Manchester City
    England
    Jun 17, 2017
    declan rice has looked really good for west ham. i hope he picks england and gives us another option I'm the middle
     
  23. greengrass81

    greengrass81 Member

    Manchester United
    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    He is going to declare for us . O' Neill is going to meet him and his family the next few days and will seal the deal.
     
  24. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    this is like the 15th thing you've claimed to be sure of in the last fortnight.
     
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  25. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    My (impeccable) sources inform me that he's already declared for England after Southgate wined and dined Declan, his mum and Grandma at Beckton Nandos.

    The deal was sealed on the promise that Declan would get to play at the u21 Euros this summer and work with revered supercoach Aidy Boothroyd.

    The good feeling was cemented when Declan's grandma serenaded Southgate with an accapella version of Morrissey's 2004 song 'Irish blood - English Heart'.

    A heartily good time was had by all.
     

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