Lets fire Low now!!!

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Raumdeuter, Jul 13, 2014.

  1. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I wanted a change.... very disappointing...
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    the funniest thing is Low is like I want to honor my contract. Blame this on the dfb, if they had never extended pre-WC he could have been done.

    I think dfb's confidence in him is more about saving face than anything.
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Low should have quit.
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I also wanted to see him go. But I'll wait to see what he does in a few months. What changes he does.
     
  5. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    For me what's really worrying is loew compared to some of the other coaches is tactically inept, Mexico's colombian coach completely out did him, previously euro 2012 italian coach outfoxed him, and certainly tite of brazil seems very astute
     
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  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    plenty of reports said that he will likely reexamine his whole approach in terms of tactics. But he does need better assistant coaches than Sorg and Schneider.

    why doesn't he try getting the unemployed Hannes Wolf instead.
     
  7. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    or bring back Hansi Flick
     
  8. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Tbh, I would not be surprised if the team gets booed. Attendance figures have gone down continuously.

    DFB possibly dont have any other viable option at this moment in time. Tuchel would have been great
     
  9. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hopefully they do, then loew can resign
     
  10. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Tüchel also has a man management weakness. But he is much more creative tactically than Löw.

    At this point I think we will continue with Löw until his contract is up, or he fails again in a monumental fashion.

    Lucky for him both the WC and EC have been expanded making qualification extremely easy.

    In the long run, I want to see Klopp take over.
     
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  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    coaches like Nagelsmann and Kovac have defended Low saying it would be harsh to fire a coach because of 1 failure after a decade of success.

    if we keep Low until his contract is up, by then majority of top coaches will be done with their own contracts.
     
  12. rj123

    rj123 Member

    The team with the most German NT players
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2010
    Winnipeg, MB
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Low just didn't have a failure he had a complete disaster. I'm going to have to breakout a thesaurus to describe just what a disaster this was. A failure would be bowing out in the QFs.

    Just out of curiosity, how many top 8 teams retain their coaches after not making it out of the group in such an embarrassing fashion? Especially with what looked like a promising group of players.

    As a club equivalent, just think of a Bayern coach whose contract got renewed after being relegated to 2BL.
     
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  13. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We fired a legendary CL manager who Won with BVB in 97, got us to the final in 99, semi final in 2000 and won in 2001. He was fired because we came in 4th place in the GS in 2003.
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    wasn't there also reports that Bayern got rid of Jupp in 2013 to make room for Pep. If that's true, we dumped a guy for winning the treble at Bayern which isn't easy to hire another who didn't win anything big while he coached at the club.
     
  15. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We signed the contract with Pep in the winter of the treble season.
     
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  16. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Spain's boss Del Bosque retained his job after going out of group stage in 2014
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
    Low got backing from a player he blacklisted.:cry:

    "Germany didn't play well [at the 2018 World Cup], the team should change a lot. but the fact that Joachim Low stays as a head coach is the right decision. He has been working with the team for 13 years and he knows how to get it back on a good level," Kuranyi said.
     
  18. Dr Faust

    Dr Faust Member+

    Jul 12, 2010
    Germany
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Maybe Kuranyi is looking for a job in Löw's staff, just as he was looking to rejoin the team as a player for about half a decade after getting kicked out. He might be tired of working as Stanislav Cherchesov's interpreter, seeing as Cherchesov speaks better German than him.
     
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  19. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hummels vs Khedira: How die Mannschaft fell apart

    Team spirit within the German national only ever existed in advertising slogans, actually the mood in internally was explosive. In the second part of the series "ZSMMNBRUCH of a World Champion" kicker will name in this Thursday edition the trenches within the team and describes why coach Joachim Loew could not prevent these processes:

    That there was a "big bang" within the German national team after the disillusioning 0: 1 against Mexico is now known to the public through the open words of captain Manuel Neuer. Less public however was that there were not only problems between the world champions and the Confed Cup winners, but also among the established, for example, between Mats Hummels and Sami Khedira. Two veterans who rightly consider themselves as spokesmen of this team. Their problem was: They do not speak the same language. Just the latest station of never-ending chain of of misunderstandings between the two.

    Read in the second part of the series entitled "Dissolved - how the team 'fell apart', why Löw can not free himself of the charge of self-glorification he has attested to his squad. Why did the national coach pull an about-face and bench Özil and Khedira and thereby caused both external and internal astonishment? And why, in the case of Neuer, did he send out a signal worthy of discussion to the rest of the team?


    http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...ontra-khedira_wie-die-mannschaft-zerfiel.html
     
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It's interesting all the follow up reporting is confirming Honigstein's early reporting rather than SportBild's "bling bling" version

    In other words the campaign was dead in the water early in 2018, but faith in Low's ability to somehow bring it all together in camp kept the reality from dominating coverage - but clearly the problems were not really a secret.

    So the only interesting question left is whether Low knew the campaign was doomed, or whether he believed his own hype
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    So can we only read these things in physical publications?
     
  22. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think so but Im sure other online outlets will pick up the stories
     
  23. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I said before we will need a new Klinsmann, just not calling up several of the old guard. 2004-2005 media was full of former players complaining they wouldnt get called up anymore although they performed. First candidate: Khedira
     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    In terms of the Confeds Cup guys who were mad about not being selected - the list I guess is short of who the guys were - and I guess we are talking about the Mexico game here as guys did get their chance? Or is it that as a group, they were already upset before camp?

    ter-Stegen must be top of the list, also with Neuer parachuted in an aggravating feature
    Rudiger did in fact play, but then was dumped again
    Rudy also did play but got injured
    Drax, Werner, Kimmich and Hector all played

    Goretzka then? But he hardly played well vs SOKO
    Ginter could hardly expect to make the XI

    Stindl and Can not selected.
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Hope so as also I would love to know what was written by FAZ
     

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