R16 July 1 Russia v. Spain [R]

Discussion in 'World Cup 2018 - Knockout Rounds' started by soccernutter, Jun 30, 2018.

  1. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    I am no fan of penalties which appear somewhat accidental but unless they change the guidance on when to call a handball penalty, that was a penalty.
     
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  2. Navieko

    Navieko Member

    Jun 23, 2006
    QLD Aus
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    To me (and apparently the refs) it'd make perfect sense that an outstretched hand stopping a shot on goal in the penalty box, whether deliberate or not, is a clear cut penalty.

    Good call. Game.on!
     
  3. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Read the laws. It’s a DFK for intentional handling , and a PK is the restart for a DFK in the box. The position is used to infer intent (Eg trying to make yourself bigger).
     
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  4. Azurra89

    Azurra89 Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    Jun 27, 2018
    Exactly. His arm just shouldn't be there. When you raise your arm like that, you are running the risk of a foul.
     
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  5. guri

    guri Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    I want him on my team in pain or without it. :unsure:
     
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  6. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYP

    :D
     
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  7. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Well, the two goals today are appropriate representations of this tournament as a whole. An own goal and a PK. The 2018 World Cup is setting records for both. :(
     
  8. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    Lacklustre display by Spain. They are passing just around. No Through passes no shots. Very boring first half so far.
     
  9. Azurra89

    Azurra89 Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    Jun 27, 2018
    Tell this o the Referee and VAR, law or not, it is commom sense that the arm cant become an obstacle if not together the body. It is not just me who is saying.

    If what you are talking was applied, like I said every player would jump raising arms like a bunch of birds, in the hope of blocking the ball with no "intention".
     
  10. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Reread what I wrote. It’s exactly what you said.
     
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  11. logmarc

    logmarc Member

    None
    Belgium
    Jun 29, 2018
    #86 logmarc, Jul 1, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2018
    Hi, I cannot watch this game and I just heard that it is currently 1-1 which surprise me . Is it the spanish who are "mis-playing" or are the Russian doping, oups, I mean raising their game :D ?
    Or is it maybe one of those wacky game were nervousness overcome both team resulting in a rather whacky game ?

    PS : I just red a recap, woah Russia is really dedicated to the success of the WC selfishly making the show scoring for both team and all :ROFLMAO: . I can Imagine the final result : great game by Russia who scored 5 goals ! and only lost by one :ninja:. It sounds like a joke about Belgium .

    My current predictions : https://imgur.com/a/lbF6UYR
     
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  12. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Now, that's a different argument. I'd like to see that addressed as well.
     
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  13. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He'll play in Spain soon for sure...lol
     
  14. Buffonfan

    Buffonfan Member

    Jun 26, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I hope Russia win this, they always been the underdog.

    Sooo many passes from Spain but they still no score. No, that Russia own goal don't count, lol

    Glad Russia drawn it, it must be devastated to go home if you lost by 1 and that was our own goal.
     
  15. Azurra89

    Azurra89 Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    Jun 27, 2018
    You are right, my bad
     
  16. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    It would have been an even more appropriate representation if VAR had made that call:)
     
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  17. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    a raised hand is an intention to stop the ball...The replay clearly shows that when he jumps, he raises his hand so high...
     
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  18. Azurra89

    Azurra89 Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    Jun 27, 2018
    This is what I'm talking.. It is easier to be superior in ball.possession if you keep it in middlefield...come on!!

    Anyway if Spain pass through, Hope Croatia (i hope Croatia goes through either) will knock them out. Football should be fun to be watched.
     
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  19. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why do players do that? Every defender has drilled in the flailing around in the box is a big risk and you get precisely no benefit from flailing around. It’s among the dumbest moves possible. It’s just so purely stupid it’s hard to react with anything other than disgust.
     
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  20. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dzyuba wins the air ball everytime against Pique...
     
  21. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Iniesta warming up....
     
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  22. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

    Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    No peak Xavi, no party for Spain.
     
  23. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is he too old or too tired to start?
     
  24. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dzyuba wants the ball but the keeper does not pay attention...
     
  25. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Russia is oddly slow responding defensively. Spain is just so much quicker. Hard to see Spain not scoring again.
     

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