Who's the favorite to win this group ?

Discussion in 'GROUP H: Poland, Colombia, Senegal, Japan' started by Flipmode2000, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    I'm pretty sure a lot of those Spain predictions went out the roof after the coach drama :)

    Not to mention a lot of those experts seems to have offered internally conflicted answers :D
     
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  2. Skandal!!!

    Skandal!!! Member

    Legia Warszawa
    Poland
    Apr 26, 2017
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  3. Skandal!!!

    Skandal!!! Member

    Legia Warszawa
    Poland
    Apr 26, 2017
    I am generally cautious about Nawalka, but yes, I noticed that he is obviously trying to find some plan B and C, which he clearly lacked during Euro. Maybe he will abandon his favoritism as well? Maczynski is out (even though it must be purely due to injury, as for NT he always looked better then Linetty...), now he should keep Cionek out of RB, and potentially give Teodorczyk or Kownacki go ahead before Milik (I like Milik a lot, but he just doesn't seem in a rhythm yet - maybe during European League of Nations, which I hope we can win our group, and host Big 4 final next year).

    In general, Poland seems to be in a better shape then in 2016, and with more experience as well. Yes, I expect we have a great tournament, and quietly hope for England next round.
     
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  4. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    We'll see:

     
  5. Skandal!!!

    Skandal!!! Member

    Legia Warszawa
    Poland
    Apr 26, 2017
    Group's best 11 as per Weszlo. I am pretty much on board, but this Nagatomo guy as LB...
     

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  6. AMLO2018

    AMLO2018 Member+

    West Ham United
    Mexico
    Jul 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Colombia is very good so they are a lock for 1st place if I had to bet all my savings

    2nd place will go to either 3
     
  7. André Marconi

    André Marconi Red Card

    Crotone Calcio
    Italy
    Jun 16, 2018
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  8. jogger

    jogger Member

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Adama Mbengue replaces an injured Saliou Ciss for Senegal.
     
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  9. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Arguably an upgrade. Not that Mbengue will start.
     
  10. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    That is from 3 days ago; he was reported to be training again (as well as Barrios) a day afterwards so it's outdated.




     
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  11. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Whos the favorite now?
     
  12. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member+

    May 23, 2018
    Well Senegal looked like the best team in the group today, but remember Colombia was missing James Rodriguez for most of the game to to him just coming back from injury and were playing with 10 men for 87 minutes.
     
  13. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Poland vs Colombia is now looking like the game to decide which of the two is still in contention. Whoever loses is out, so by game three Colombia vs Senegal may be a meaningless game.

    That said the 9pts-3pts-3pts-3pts scenario is also a possibility.
     
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  14. Skandal!!!

    Skandal!!! Member

    Legia Warszawa
    Poland
    Apr 26, 2017
    We can beat Colombia but Nawalka has to admit to his mistakes and abandon favoritism. For now, I am not sure he is able to do it, he is too stubborn.
     
  15. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member+

    May 23, 2018
    Will Glik be back for Colombia game?
     
  16. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    with Japan getting the 9 pts., and everybody else getting 3 pts.
    ;)
     
  17. Jonathan Pimentel

    Aug 29, 2013
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Do you sincerely believe Japan will win another game?

    I think they lose the next two games to both Senegal, leaving them with 3 points heading into the match v Poland who will need points aswell...

    albeit, the Polish team does not exactly yell confidence.. i feel they will be able to handle the pressure better then the Japanese in that final crucial game.
     
  18. Jonathan Pimentel

    Aug 29, 2013
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    I personally have the following:

    Colombia - Poland = Draw
    Japan - Senegal = Senegal win

    Senegal 6pts
    Japan 3pts
    Colombia 1 pt
    Poland 1 pt

    Colombia - Senegal = Colombia win
    Poland - Japan = Poland win

    Senegal 6pts
    Poland 4pts
    Colombia 4pts
    Japan 3pts

    but who knows?
     
  19. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This group could honestly be a bit like that one in 1994 where all 4 teams end up with 4 points.
     
  20. HansWorldCup

    HansWorldCup Member

    Roma
    Sweden
    Jan 10, 2018
    Nope
    Well if Senegal beat Japan and Colombia beat Poland we have scenario that 3 team can get 6 points and Senegal not even advance.
     
  21. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Personally, I prefer if we top the group but I don't know how Group F and G will end up as.
     
  22. BUDOKAN

    BUDOKAN Member

    May 31, 2006
    Tokyo
    Club:
    Yokohama F Marinos
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Japan 4pts
    Senegal 4pts
    Columbia 3pts
    Poland 0pts

    Who expect such a situation ?

    After watching last night's beautiful JPN x SEN game, I am heading to Volgograd for JPN x POL game.
    I hope another 3pts at the battle of Stalingrad(Volgograd) and R16 @ Moscow.:)
     
  23. svelten

    svelten Member

    N/A
    Jun 22, 2009
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Favorite group as a neutral to watch this WC, just so many possibilities. Japan have shown mental fortitude and not imploding against adversity, which is basically the opposite of Poland. Two games in and I hardly think Poland are in any way favored to win. Sure sometimes deflated teams with nothing to play for do well...and others just DGAF (see Brazil v Netherlands).

    I'll probably watch the Colombia v Senegal game instead on the main screen as the stakes are higher and the teams play a frankly more exciting style of soccer. I think Colombia will go hard for the win instead of settling for a draw and praying for Japan to lose. Really have a hard time calling this game, Colombia are a vulnerable team at the back though with many weapons up front but Senegal have not shown fully what they're capable of IMO.

    But honestly I'm happy with any two of the three teams going through; AFC and CAF need a lift and both these teams have played really well, but I would also love to see more of James and Falcao this WC. I'm just glad Poland's done with... I never rated them highly (again, as a viewing neutral; no disrespect or dislike specifically) and am disinterested in seeing a mini-Euro in the last 16 chock-full of, shall we say, non-elite European teams that are arguably not really any better than the best of CAF/AFC/CONCACAF (looking at Russia, Sweden, Denmark, Serbia and yes...Poland).
     
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  24. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    The only thing to add to that is that Lewdoski claims that the team wants to win to apologize to their fans given by how well their qualifying campaign went only to disapoint in the world cup.

    So pride may factor in but honestly, Poland have nothing to lose so we'll see if Japan will take them seriously or not.
     
  25. user02B

    user02B New Member

    Jun 27, 2018
    Playing with nothing to lose has the advantage in penalty consequences of course. Even with a clear head, I don't see it happening. If they were going to kick themselves into gear, they wouldn't done it round 2.. I think it's going to be 2-0 or 2-1 japan. Jpn looks too on point to drop.
     

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