Germany - Sweden /-- 23 June -- 2nd Group Game

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by White/Blue_since1860, Jun 17, 2018.

  1. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What is clear is if it's gundo kroos combo then they need the insurance of a cover behind em, rudy or Sule, like modric kroos have casamero behind em
     
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  2. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Who are these upcoming wingers that r coming through?, are they any good at one to situation s like dribbling
     
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  3. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Oh yes. That is where Kühn, Batista Meier, Evina, Yeboah, etc. excel
     
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  4. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Draxler’s done this WC, Löw won’t play him again
    but I’ll give him one thing, Draxler’s a pretty cool name
     
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  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    those are only the guys who could breakthrough by EC2020. Issues with youth levels is terrible coaching/tactics/selections but we are producing numerous numerous players with potential. We seem to be producing more dribblers too, whether dribbling wingers, AM or CFs.

    heck a fit Stindl and Gnabry,
    and Maxi Philipp are all better than Draxler.

    I would even have taken Kai Havertz get him integrated,he has the making to be Ozil's successor. He even would have gotten to train with Ozil as well.
     
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  6. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ahem
     
  7. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Worked out in the end hasnt it?
     
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  8. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Loooooool
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  10. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  11. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    oh and it had to come.... HERE IT IS
    1010648538265636871 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Well

    That sure answered a few questions about whether Germany's problems could be solved with a few simple changes

    In short it remains a hot mess

    The team looks so much better when Kroos brings the ball out from deep - in the first half way too much ball went through Boateng at sluggish pace

    Draxler was awful again - Reus should have been in for him rather than Ozil

    Germany don't do anything from the top of midfield

    The 4-2-3-1 has to go

    everything depends on Kroos in midfield - he needs to be better supported
     
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  13. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That is a big part of our opponents gameplan. They press the midfielders in blocks and force the cbs to play the ball out of the back. Luckily we have wc defenders. It is the same at bayern and Barcelona.
     
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  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agree - both definitely are better in a 3
     
  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agreed but when you see Boateng so far forward - essentially playing Ozil's role in right midfield - something has gone wrong

    I agree he can play some really great diagonals and distribute - but he is overall far to slow

    You saw the difference with Kroos who will take a few steps forward then snap in a wall pass straight into the top of midifield instead of always playing the same pass.
     
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  16. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Stonewall penalty. Sweden were robbed. Ref should have awarded the pen and if needed a VAR review (like in Neymar's case when Kuipers first awarded the pen and then saw there was no foul). Boateng shoved, pulled and then kicked him for good measure. VAR failed.

    Also, very classy Germany:

    https://www.svt.se/sport/fotboll/storbrak-efter-slutsignalen-janne-andersson-skogstokig

    Last time the Swedes were taunted they got the last laugh though:

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    PS who knows maybe Son really wants to avoid military service and turns up against Germany.
     
  17. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It's old news and they also already apologized
     
  18. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    meme material

    [​IMG]

    when you get up on 6am during vacation and you see the Thommy has already put towels on the all the deck-chairs next to the pool
    when you are wondering what Boateng does for a living
     
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  19. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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    Interesting lineup
     
  20. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I agree. It's about time Löw ditched the 4-2-3-1. It doesn't work with our personnel. This Germany team is going to be successful flooding the midfield with bodies. Kroos and Gündoğan need more help. Hopefully Rudy is good to go and Löw figures it out soon enough.
     
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  21. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It's become again obvious you only come to visit this forum for spamming. Once a Kirsten, always a Kirsten
     
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    always find it annoying seeing both in real life and online how many people seem to hate Germany's guts in football. They mostly root for all the bigger countries except for us. Saw plenty that were disappointed that Sweden didn't knock us out. Some even seem to hate us because older German teams were more machines than man, lol.

    honestly it just looks like jealousy. Most consistent team in WC history, if you count silver and bronze as tie breakers were also 2nd best team in WC history after Brazil.
     
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #523 Ger90, Jun 23, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2018
    we are the most stable when we have 3 midfielders, so 4-3-3 but Low seems almost goal crazy that he thinks 4-2-3-1 is going to work. If play 4-2-3-1, we will be knocked out by the 1st good team we play.
     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Joachim Löw: It was a fortunate victory – to get it with 10 men in injury time – but I think it was deserved, because we kept believing in ourselves. We showed our character. I told the team at half time that they needed to stay calm and hold their nerve. I said we had enough time to to get forward and get in behind the Swedish defence to create chances. They only had a couple of chances, which came about because of our sloppy passing. I am so pleased for Toni Kroos getting the goal. We did not give the ball away as much as we did against Mexico and with our playing style we are susceptible to giving away goals from misplaced passes. But we put them under a lot of pressure, and created openings- The competition for places in the team will run through the tournament. We will need Mesut Özil and Mats Hummels would have loved to have played, but the doctor said it would be too dangerous. We need him because of his experience and class, and I am glad he will probably be back for South Korea. I think Sebastian Rudy has broken his nose. It started bleeding and did not stop, so we needed to get him out of the game. He might be able to play on Wednesday but we will have to see.

    DFB president Reinhard Grindel: We created our own luck, and the better team got the winner in the last minute. We played much, much better than we did against Mexico. The team showed a reaction and were much sharper. There were a few frustrating errors, but we huffed and puffed and there was so much will there. I think it was clear that the changes Joachim Löw made were taken on board. The picture looks a lot different now, but it is far from done and dusted. We now focus on South Korea, but I think that will give us extra energy going forward. The coach has not made any firm choices with the starting XI; he collects information from training sessions, analyses and then decides. He has street smarts. We must replace Jerome Boateng, but Jögi will make the right decision.

    Team coordinator Oliver Bierhoff: I was slightly frustrated inside because the Swedes were playing for time from the very beginning. That was destructive and they were nearly rewarded for it. We were a little bit unsure, but showed great character. After a game like that you look at the positives, but the fact is that from time to time you get knocked out of your stride. That’s where we have to remain calm. You could see the character and the reaction of the team. This team is still alive. Everyone is up for this and we have enough quality. We have very good players on the bench too. Mario Gomez was also a big factor after coming on today as well.

    Toni Kroos: What can I say? It was another game with highs and lows. We should have taken the lead after ten minutes. We put them under pressure, but we let it slide a little. You have to have guts to come out and produce a comeback like that in the second half. We fought incredibly hard and deserved the win. I get the impression that a lot of people would have been happy to see us go out today, but we won’t give them the satisfaction. We don’t have much time until the next game now, and we have to beat South Korea. We need to apply pressure from the off again there. The adrenaline and our quality should see us through.

    Marco Reus: We were down to ten men for the last ten or fifteen minutes, but we never stopped playing football. What can I say about Toni’s goal? Simply world-class. There have been a lot of late goals at this World Cup and you need a little luck. We started quite well, but we didn’t have too many clear-cut chances. Sweden defended very well though; they were very compact. We knew that we would have use the width.

    Thomas Müller: We threw everything at it and got our reward at the end. That’s what you always hope for, that you actually get rewarded when you just keep going. It felt like luck wasn’t on our side – Brandt hit the post and Gomez had a great chance. We didn’t do everything right though and their goal wasn’t good from our point of view. Sweden defended well, but we knew they would tire. That’s why there was more space towards the end. You can’t take a comeback like that for granted and it could be the turning point in this tournament for us – we’ll see. Hopefully there’s still a long way to go. Anything could happen yet, whether that’s the worst-case scenario or the best.
     
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  25. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I presume you mean "stable"?
     
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