Fredy Montero - part II

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by GOALSeattle, Feb 3, 2009.

  1. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Yes, but a few of the Asian leagues have strong followings in their respective countries. Only a fraction of soccer fans in the US watch MLS.
     
  2. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Dude they get 15-20k game how many Colombian teams get that attendance. Fine they have 10x to people but still a country where soccer is like the 5th sport no bad.
     
  3. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    I am not criticizing MLS' attendance or American fandom. Pepino used the MLS' inability to become relevant in global soccer to predict that Chinese soccer will suffer the same fate.

    The question here is how much of an affect will money have. I'll tell you right now, if Colombian clubs had the money to buy guys like Henry, Lampard, or Pirlo (past their primes or in their primes) the crowds would show up and the results in continental play would improve. Regardless, Colombia is a bigger name in soccer than many countries with robust capital tied to futbol. This is due in large part to talent, but it's hard to deny that the flood of money into Colombian futbol during the 80s had an effect, too.
     
  4. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


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    El man se metio golazos y su gol en la final al ultimo minuto fue de heroe
     
  5. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yea but you can't compare US to China. Us has been out of group stage every WC since 1994. How many other teams can say that. In 2006 they almost went all the way. Last WC them lacking a striker hurt them but took Belgium to the end.

    We have a better roster then them but for how long. The guys who played in all the US teams are mostly MlS and Mexican league guys. How much the US has improved in such a short time is incredibly impressive not to mention they have better players who chose other NT. Gio Rossi to Italy and Subtic of Dortmund chose Serbia after not liking how he was treated by the US u20 coach.

    Us has the money to be another EPL. And will soon have the talent. People seem to think English players are way better than Amerivan ones but results of both NTs make me think otherwise
     
  6. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #1106 pepinointer, Feb 4, 2016
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    British players are garbage, noboy doubt that....the secret of premiel league is buy good foreigners, no his national players. Only british teams, buy his english players

    If usa dont change his schedule (3 months resting a beggingin of year :eek:), and try to get invited to libertadores they are going to keep beign a graveyard.

    Nt quiality is different to league quality: Nederlands, Uruguay.....
     
  7. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    US getting in libatadores would piss me off at that point they need to join Comenbol. Mexico already gets as many spots as Colombia in these cups. Now add the US? If they want to get in our cups then join our confederation.

    Problem with Colombian players is the mentality. They don't think they can win. Americans from the day they are born are told they are better just because they are from the US always see their atheles win at everything. Uruguay the same they won what 15 copa Americas?

    We didn't win the 2016 WC partly because the refs fkd us but because our players didn't think they could or should win. Bacca even mentioned it. Pekerman is working hard to change that horseshit Maturana feed us for 25 years that losing is winning a little.

    I see the US winning a WC and being a Top league way way before Colombia ever does because of money and population.
     
  8. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ehhh ...nobody is comparing usa with Colombia. stuck in te point freak.

    MLS a top league that history have been told for 30 years....that isnt only with money, marketing, population...is about respect.

    and stop do you think that colombia have aspirations be a top league??? is silly the comparison....in fact all the south american leagues lost the respect from their people.

    tell something that people dont know. but MLS have a lot of things to change to be respected as a top league. and a good NT isnt enough and to buy retired players since pele times neither
     
  9. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I'm not sure where competitive discussion. All I said money, MLS has a salary cap that slows down potential buying a. While I believe Chinese super league has no cap in spending. Like someone said earlier, money talks, and China's bargaining power is increasing.

    Fun fact Mexican league 5th most paid league in world.
     
  10. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Us is trying to build a league that has crazy competition for sports. Other then soccer what can you watch in Colombia? Bicycle fing racing !!!!!!

    The potential for the MlS is there they just aren't rushing it as they have already have a few soccer leagues Men's and women's fail.

    Issue is they go about it wrong fine a Henry can bring in large crowds or a Beckham but instead of buying 1-2 big name players buy guys who can make a difference. Smart buys like Fabian Castillo are better ways to go. People want to see a great product on the field.

    My boss has season tickets to the New England revolutions and I go to some of the games. The quality of play leaves a ton to be desired. I also have 5 other options where I live to watch live. Boston Bruins, the Patriots, Celtics, red soxs, the woman's pro team. I also can watch 40 college games live with all the schools around. They are competing with all of this plus I can watch basically any league I want at home or a bar

    Us has more options then other country's when it comes to sports.
     
  11. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    MLS gets better each year, viewership continues to improve and attendance has become solid since soccer specific stadiums are in place in most markets now.

    I dont know about Boston (do they still play in Gillete?), but the recent atmosphere at RBNY games has been awesome. I also went to KC and the fans are great.

    Paso a paso.
     
  12. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I think that in terms of viewership and attendance, MLS is either closing down or ahead of the NHL... I give you that it is very difficult to compete with MLB, NBA and NFL but the league is in good shape.


    PS. Checking the actual numbers, MLS is in nice shape. Averaging 21k spectators per game sits comfortably third behind NFL and MLB and ahead of (indoor sports) NBA and NHL. Kind of difficult to compare, since they are apples to oranges (number of games, size of stadiums, different seasons), but when you compare with other soccer leagues, MLS is top 10 in the world. FPC has an average attendance of 8k with probably half the teams drawing 5k or less for most of the games.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attendance_figures_at_domestic_professional_sports_leagues
     
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  13. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    On the other discussion, National Team quality, International competitiveness of the League and viewership are usually not fully correlated. The Chinese League could be a commercial success and have a significant audience, despite their NT sucking and their teams not yet dominating the Asian club competitions.
     
  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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    10 millions a year he will earn,
     
  15. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    What the heck ??
     
  16. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Con esa cara encaja bien allá, es un chinito.
     
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  17. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    De la polinesia parece
     
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  18. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Bueno, ahora todos a seguir el FPC(*)







    (*) Futbol Profesional Chino.
     
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  19. MiLo4891

    MiLo4891 Member

    May 14, 2007
    FLL
    He should have came back to Colombia, and gone to a Copa Libretadores team.
     
  20. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why? He was performing good in europe and other clubs from the continent wanted him

    The choice was economic, and colombia isnt a good option in that aspect. he dont have NT aspirations
     
  21. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He is heading towards to MLS again.........
     
  22. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    He scored his first MLS goal for Vancouver yesterday. Came in as a sub and completely changed the match

     
  23. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Technically it was not his first MLS goal but I know what you mean. :p

    (I know you said for Vancouver)
     
  24. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
     
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  25. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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