2017 Hot Seat

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by StevenLa, Mar 10, 2017.

  1. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    Not mid major. Fbs football.

    The term doesn’t really mean much anymore.
     
  2. HouseofCards

    HouseofCards Member

    Nov 26, 2012
    So is the SWAC.
     
  3. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #953 Holmes12, Dec 20, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2017
    i sorta disagree whispers. There are very few coaches with name recognition to parents beyond Anson Wilhem Dorrance. It's tier (P5?), school (academics, locale, logo) and scholly money. I will grant if the coach, such as the Sayheykids, have national team member stuff, they could do all right if they market it right (UCF has little competition in that conference). Like "Camps run by former Team USA forward, World Cup champion Tiffany Sayheykid.." And they do that. They most certainly do that. Other than Dorrance, there are virtually no household names to a degree to have significant recruiting influence.
     
  4. MAGA DTS!

    MAGA DTS! New Member

    Jan 12, 2017
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Won’t be goaded in to listing the other candidates but list was extensive and included quality from east and west coast (you like to point out “coastal” preferences). Dr. Ted is respected but knew he was on the outside looking in. Waldrum hire will pay immediate dividens but you’re so plugged in, you should already know that.
     
  5. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #955 Holmes12, Dec 20, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2017
    Oh, come on, don't be mean and arrogant. Like you're so plugged in about this "quality from east to west". Across this vast land. I never insinuated any insider information, as you do! "goaded". puuuh. I make solid observation and commentary, based, truthfully, on the soccer industry money trail. Granted, not difficult to follow the money, but many followers deny that's all it takes to dissect this sport.

    I'm sure Anson Randolph Dorrance himself was on your Pitt's "extensive" list. Every P5 HC and AC. How many said "no" to Pitt solicitations, the entire "extensive" list? Wassel, for starters, i knew about him.
     
  6. PoetryInMotion

    Feb 7, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    The SWAC is FCS football, like the southland. They also don’t even participate in the NCAA playoffs. Don’t kid yourself.
     
  7. WACySOCCERWORLD

    Jan 28, 2014

    I'd be surprised if the present staff is allowed to stay on. Randy wants his own people....probably his son being one of them!
     
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  8. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Credit to Pitt, Waldrum is a much better hire than I expected. It remains to be seen if he is up to the challenge of a full and complete culture change and program rebuild. The first part should happen as soon as he walks in the door. The second part, well, that's harder, takes longer, and he's going to have to take some lumps in the conference for a good few years. He's 61; one doesn't normally think of someone at this stage of their career taking on this kind of rebuild. It'll be interesting to see how he handles it, but this surely will strengthen the program.
     
  9. HouseofCards

    HouseofCards Member

    Nov 26, 2012
    #959 HouseofCards, Dec 20, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2017
    All kidding aside....

    https://www.thecelebrationbowl.com/
     
  10. PoetryInMotion

    Feb 7, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    The celebration bowl is the de-facto HBCU national championship...between the MEAC and SWAC. They are not FBS members. Case in point the Celebration Bowl pays out 1 million per conference...the group of 5 teams in FBS (the non power 5s, sunbelt, MAC, mountain west, C-USA and American—UCF’s conference) split a pool of 83.5 million in bowl revenue (~16 million each per conference). Just because it’s titled a bowl game doesn’t make them FBS members (even d2’s not invited to the playoffs play in “bowls”). These amounts also don’t include tv revenue (the American, for example, has a tv deal with ESPN for football) which also is divided between members.

    It’s absurd to equate an FBS school with a SWAC school, just as it’s ridiculous to insinuate that UCF which has the largest undergraduate enrollment in the nation (or did in 2016) is on par with small land-grant HBCU’s in terms of resources, expectations, and opportunities for success in any sport, much less women’s soccer.
     
  11. oneofnine

    oneofnine Member

    Nov 21, 2011
    suspicions as to why you feel this way, but what are your reasons to believe that it is "shocking"?
     
  12. SoccerTrustee

    SoccerTrustee Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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  13. WACySOCCERWORLD

    Jan 28, 2014

    OUCH....How do you think these players and parents feel now, just 2 days after signing:
    http://www.highpointpanthers.com/news/2017/12/19/womens-soccer-welcomes-three-early-signees.aspx

    More of a rude awakening! Much harder road to recruit the type of students that UR has as compared to HPU. That is not a knock on HPU academically in the least, but UR has being considered a "Lil Ivy" for quite a while. A different type of recruiting challenge ahead for MB.
     
  14. soccer1212

    soccer1212 Member

    Jan 17, 2017
    Is Stuart Horne, former Campbell coach going to end up anywhere?

    Seems like this year is the year for interesting hires in Division 1 women's soccer.
     
  15. theguru

    theguru Member

    May 7, 2008
    Towson makes hire as well. Wait for this one to be announced. Priceless
     
  16. Collegewhispers

    Collegewhispers Member+

    Oct 27, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    Feel free to share
     
  17. Germans4Allies4

    Jan 9, 2010
    Didn't Horne rebuild Campbell to its most successful years in program history? As kids graduate this year and next, that program will implode. He would be more of a logical hire, not interesting, for some of these openings.
     
  18. Holmes12

    Holmes12 Member

    May 15, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    He thought it hard to sell HPs 50k pricetag, try 65k. He'll stink.
     
  19. oneofnine

    oneofnine Member

    Nov 21, 2011
    OUCH....How do you think these players and parents feel now, just 2 days after signing:

    Signing date isn't until February

     
  20. oneofnine

    oneofnine Member

    Nov 21, 2011
    ahhh.....I see what you are referencing- the kids coming in the spring of 18...my fault
     
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  21. Eddie K

    Eddie K Member+

    May 5, 2007
    #972 Eddie K, Dec 22, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2017
    Marty will do very well. Richmond has a much better budget, location, conference, and reputation than HighPoint. He can recruit nationally on academics at Richmond but he's going to have to put in the miles and work very hard and he will. Big downer maybe is sharing turf field with football, not common in D1 these days but can be overcome. WIsh him well and about the timing - there's NO good timing for these moves. He just won his conf title and needs to go when he can. Don't blame him but we'll see how fast HP moves. Asst has been with Marty for years so will she stay or go? Why we have a discussion forum!

    Almost forgot - Calling BS on this one- You don't come on an anonymous forum just to say "I know something you don't". ANYONE can do that bro.

     
  22. theguru

    theguru Member

    May 7, 2008
    Katherine Vettori - Former Loyola HC that started the demise of a once mid major elite program. I just don’t understand that hire.
     
  23. allovercollegesoccer

    Dec 12, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    theguru, its called hiring a women for the sake of it, Yep I said it! Hire the best person for the position, whether they be a women, man or a purple alien. Our game is never going to improve with so many armchair coaches in the college game.
     
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  24. Eddie K

    Eddie K Member+

    May 5, 2007
    There you go. I agree. She's a nice enough person but done nothing to warrant this opportunity EXCEPT - she's female, has some resume, and she'll take it for cheap because she's already right there. You could also say she's the opposite kind of coach then Paynter and maybe they wanted that. He was on like 52K or something crazy. Rookie teachers make more in that area. When you do things on the cheap, ultimately it costs you. We'll see. Hope for the kids it works out.
     

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