Realistically speaking, that has never happened in recent or far memory nor will it ever happen especially in the near future. I just want to know how well some other K-leaguers would fit into the NT over some CSL players who've had a million chances by now. And we know who we are talking about. I think one solution is to give more playing chances to a wider range of players, have a lot more friendlies and not worry about its impact on FIFA ranking so much. This is the only way I feel we can truly rigorously test who will fit or have good chemistry in the NT. More specifically, we should experiment with more defensive players.
Yes, I understand where you're coming from. However, the real reason players like KYK should not start is not because they're in the CSL, but because they're just shite. Even if KYK moves to the K-League or Europe as rumoured, doesn't mean he should get a better chance at starting. All in all, the "world cup qualified leagues only" rule you proposed just doesn't sound like an adequate response to the problems at hand, because the league doesn't define the player.
I know, it was just an idea I threw out there out of frustration with CSL based players and others. The more I think about it, it's not just the league (quality of competition, playing rules for foreigners), it's also about about playing time, being fit and chemistry. Park Ju Young comes to mind. He got into Arsenal but what good did that do for him? He didn't even play so his form and probably fitness naturally suffered as his entire career. I really missed his header-goals.
To me, going to the middle east or CSL, shows that the player: (1) is not good enough for Europe, (2) does not have the mental fortitude for Europe, (3) has given up on the hopes of reaching his full potential, and/or (4) cares more about money than sporting factors. HJH falls into (3) and (4). KYK and JHS used to fall into (2), (3) and (4) but now (1) applies to them as well. China and the desert are sporting black holes. They impose a negative feedback loop mechanism on these players. They play at a sub-optimal level for outsized earnings which decreases both accountability and sporting ability. After some time playing in these leagues, they regress. Look at JHS. He should have improved since his time playing in the J-League and winning the gold medal in the Asiad. But instead, he's regressed and lacks positional awareness, tackling abilities and passing abilities. Or let's look at NTH. What is he now? He may be a desert superstar playing against others who amble about the pitch in sandstorms giving him plenty of space. But the minute he plays at a higher intensity on the KNT, he gets demolished. What a waste of a talent. You can't replicate the high levels of intensity that are required to play as an international, particularly in the world cup, when you spend months (if not years) collecting an easy pay check playing at 60-70% effort and barely training under shitty Chinese coaches or un-motivated foreign coaches cashing out in these leagues. It's like asking a boxer like Chaves Jr. after years of lazily smoking up and partying to fight Canelo. Training camp and an intense burst of activity will not erase years of regression against an opponent who has maintained competing at a high level, regardless of talent. Yes, it's bad to sit on the bench in Europe. But at least those players wanted to compete. I am suspect of everyone who goes to the CSL or the desert in their prime (or before their prime). We should ignore and avoid those that chose to go to the retirement league to cash out. Cap only those players that went to sporting leagues like those in Europe or the K-League or the J-League or hell, even the A-League. If we sink with players in those leagues that are giving it their all, week in and week out, then fine. That is our pool of talent. But at least they are showing accountability. And they will show accountability on the pitch regardless of winning or losing. But if we sink with those playing in the desert and the middle kingdom, we are following the UliShit model of insanity.
I know this is just anecdotal evidence. Last year I got to meet a Chinese national after playing pick-up basketball together. I found out that he had just came to the States a few weeks before. I asked him if he liked any other sport besides basketball. He said, "no". "Why not? Aren't you interested in Chinese football?" He said in his very broken limited English, "Too much Bribery" after he looked up the word in English online.
This can be said for a lot of our prospects. We have some good U-17/U-19/U-20 type players but university-level football and lack of true youth academy halts their development. Our boys are very competitive in the international level, even against the Europeans and South Americans. Difference is that those leagues continue to help their youth grow and develop, the way their football system is structured and better coaches.
I thought KBK was going to be something special, and he had his good moments with Cardiff. But his career trajectory has been underwhelming.
Typical case of joining the wrong league. He should've went to Germany where he'd fit much better. He even had offers.
I thought KBK's game fit the English style well. Sure, the English style isn't technical and it's hoofball quite often, but he had the physicality and dribbling skills that would have been advantageous to him. Going to the Bundesliga would have been a better choice in hindsight but not sure his career would have been all that different.
Another player leaving CSL. Jung Wooyoung is going back to the J-league. http://sports.news.naver.com/kfootball/news/read.nhn?oid=109&aid=0003684804
i dont have a problem of our players going to Japan. Except, if they are CB or CDM. The league isnt aggressive enough to toughen defensive players up. It has good finesse
China has changed their rules again. The Asian quarter rule is no more existent. That means they don't need Koreans anymore. Explains the exit rushes (Jung Woo Young to Vissel Gobe, Hwang Il Soo to Ulsan)
K-League followers might remember Takahagi who played for FC Seoul a year ago. He was called up for JNT at the 2017 EAFF and our very own Cha Doo Ri ran into him. Takahagi seems to have a decent grasp of Korean. Not too shabby for someone who was only here for two years. CDR - 야! (Hey!) Takahagi - 네? (Yes?) CDR - 대표선수야? (You're a player on the national squad?) Takahagi - 예 ㅎㅎㅎ (Yes, haha). --- CDR - 축하해! (Congrats!) CDR - 한국올꺼야? (Are you coming to Korea?) Takahagi - 시간이없어. (I don't have the time). CDR - 왜?! - (Why?!) --- Takahagi - 안녕하세요! 파이팅! (Hello! Fighting!)
His wife is Korean. (Been married since 2011 when he was still playing for Sanfrecce Hiroshima) http://news.joins.com/article/18837176