2017/18 Offseason Player Movement & Rumors

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  1. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Union have 3 GKs under contract for next season. Unless Sak comes back I don't see them signing another GK.
     
  2. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eff flips. I prefer the Le Toux Tumble.
     
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  3. djramone

    djramone Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Pennsylvania
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Via my own hazy recollections I believe the only players we've picked up via waiver/re-entry/free agency mechanisms are Nizar Khalfan, Conor Casey, and Corben Bone...

    Or if Blake is sold :whistling:... Though I think Bingham (or even Rimando short-term) would be better options than going down the 2010 road again.
     
  4. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I’d be really surprised if they don’t finally cash in on Blake this year.
     
  5. djramone

    djramone Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Pennsylvania
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could always sell him to Oka's new home, the GK-less Galaxy for a ton of allocation money...
     
  6. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Do it. It would be about the same on net as selling him for cheap because he couldn't get a UK work permit and then splitting the transfer money with MLS.
     
  7. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you are suggesting we DOMDWYER! him to LA. I love Blake, but we could accomplish what we have with a regular keeper.
     
  8. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Right, he's totally wasted on us. Let him enjoy his prime elsewhere.
     
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  9. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I mean any one of us could be keeper and they'd still miss the playoffs.
     
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  10. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    "accomplish"
     
  11. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the exceptions of NT guys like Tim Howard and Brad Guzan, I don't see how a GK will earn a salary in a MLS that is any anywhere near what he could make in Europe because of the salary cap. So unless Blake really wants to stay in North America for personal reasons, I highly doubt he will sign an extension with the Union or any other MLS team before his contract expires and he can join any European that will have him on a free transfer next winter and make a lot more money. Knowing this, European teams would be unlikely to give us much of a transfer fee for him knowing that they will be able to get him for free in a year. Similarly, teams within MLS probably won't give us very much allocation $ for him knowing that he will almost certainly leave for Europe in a year for free.
     
  12. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't stop Orlando from forking over a stack of Garber Bucks to bring Dom Dwyer "home."
     
  13. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I think free spenders like TFC or NYCFC would be happy to pay Blake significantly more than he’s making right now. Also, there’s no incentive to wait if you are one of the dozens of European teams that might conceivably be interested in Blake. You can agree to a transfer now and lock him into a long term contract instead of competing with a bunch of other teams in a year to sign him on a free.
     
  14. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure they'd like to, but I just don't see any MLS team, including the "free spenders", spending much on the GK position because of the salary cap and limited numbers of DP spots. Yes they will spend way over the cap on salaries, but they can only do it on 3-4 players because of the cap and limit of 3 DP's. After that, they still have the same amount of cap space as the Union to fill out the rest of their roster. I suppose Atlanta and Colorado chose to go for Guzan and Howard because of the visibilty/marketability of USMNT players. Maybe this will change now that we have entered this new era of mega-TAM.



    I hadn't thought about it this way, and I am just speculating since i don't honestly know much about how transfers work. In this case, I think the team interested in Blake would be foolish to buy him unless a new long-term contract was agreed to concurrently with the transfer, or else he could still walk when his original MLS contract expires. So in a sense, all those teams would still be bidding against each other, but it would be a three-way negotiation with Blake and the Union instead of just with Blake a year from now.

    I also am no expert on how teams determine the transfer fee they would be willing to pay/accept for a player. However, it seems that the more time that is left on the players contract, the higher the transfer fee will be (especially if the wages on the contract are low since it will be a long time until he can ask for a raise or leave for free). Conversely, a transfer fee would be lower if there isn't much time left on the contract. With only a year left on Blake's contract, the fee a team would be willing to give the Union for him will be low, and maybe below what the Union would accept to lose their fan-favorite, all-star GK who is still on his rookie contract (cheap) for his final year with the team, even if they know they won't be able to extend his contract.

    In summary, I think the odds that the Union lose Blake at the end of this year when his contract expires are higher than they are for him being traded within MLS or sold him abroad before then.
     
  15. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In a league with a salary cap and limit of 3 DP's, teams will always be willing to pay a lot more for a a guy who scores goals than they will for a defender or GK.
     
  16. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My point is that Dwyer's contract also expires at the end of next season....he can walk away for and Orlando will have nothing
     
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  17. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Point taken. I was not aware of that fact.
     
  18. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Germany does something similar
     
  19. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. Cherry Hill SOB

    Cherry Hill SOB Member+

    Aug 30, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    2018 STH video tagline nominee
     
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  21. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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  22. EdBacon

    EdBacon Member+

    Apr 6, 2015
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    They should just give up the pretense of even wanting to build a real team. Hold a raffle for the gameday roster. Open it up to STHs. Like, $20 a ticket to enter and you can buy multiple tickets.

    It'd be more entertaining than what they're doing now anyway.
     
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  23. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Loyalty points.
     
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  24. Yo-Joe

    Yo-Joe Member

    Oct 20, 2007
    Montco/Philadelphia, USA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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  25. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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