So if the Miami/Cincinnati winner beats the Red Bulls AND San Jose beats Kansas City (the former might be more likely than the latter, if for no other reason than home teams tend to win a lot in this tournament, most things being otherwise equal), we would have a lower-division side hosting the final for the first time in the modern era.
U.S. Open Cup Quarterfinals Home team first, times are ET Monday, July 10 San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 3-2 LA Galaxy (MLS) Tuesday, July 11 Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 3-0 (aet) FC Dallas (MLS) 7:30 pm Thursday, July 13 New England Revolution (MLS) 0-1 NY Red Bulls (MLS) Wednesday, August 2 Miami FC (NASL) v. FC Cincinnati (USL) 7:30 pm Semifinals Wednesday, August 9 Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 8:30 pm Wednesday, August 9 Miami FC (NASL) v. NY Red Bulls (MLS) 7:30 pm OR Tuesday, August 15 FC Cincinnati (USL) v. NY Red Bulls (MLS) 8:00 pm The final will be September 20.
They will all be at least streamed. I have not seen any announcement about TV for any of these matches. That could change. Here is the link for the Miami/Cincinnati quarterfinal stream: http://www.ussoccer.com/lamar-hunt-...n-cup-quarterfinals-miami-fc-vs-fc-cincinnati The final will be on one of the ESPN channels.
Home record crowd over 10,400 go home disappointed with the 1-0 Miami loss, match could have gone either way.
Here's the latest update of my ever popular* league ELO rankings. *not at all true Some basic info, for those who want it: 1. These rankings use all USOC games since 1996 to determine the relative strengths of the leagues. The names used below just represent the current names of leagues at that level. In reality the leagues have changed around a lot, and what is now NASL used to be USL D-1, and the A League before it. Similarly for all the other levels. 2. There are bound to be mistakes back in the history, but the beauty of ELO rankings is that they are self-correcting over time, so the "actual strengths" probably aren't too far off from this right now, even with errors in older competitions. 3. The actual results used are as follows: a. Game finishes in regulation with a result: goals scored b. Game finishes after extra time with a result: goals scored c. Game goes to penalty kicks: goals scored before the penalty kicks. The game is "recorded" as a tie. 4. A home team has its rating raised by 100, and the change in ratings for each of the teams is calculated based on the result of the game, and the relative difference between the two ratings. This means that currently, we would expect an NASL team hosting an MLS team to be slightly in favor of the MLS team, but not significantly so. 5. The average change in score for any individual game is about 7. This means that one league goes up by 7, and the other down by 7. 6. There is no way to account for the fact that many MLS teams play 'B' or 'C' sides in the first few rounds they participate. I can only base it on the teams fielded. 2017 Note: Based on earlier discussions, I will keep NASL and USL separate for this year. Once we see how sanctioning for these leagues goes, a final decision about their future representation in these numbers will be made. RoundMLSNASLUSLPDLNPSLUSASA/etc 2016179816091575137112891358 2017 R1179816091575136512981354 2017 R2179816031608136312841344 2017 R3179816231606134112841348 2017 R4178716321609134112841347 2017 R5178116401607134112841347 2017 QF178116301617134112841347 MLS teams don't change at all because they only played with each other. USL's road win brings them and NASL to almost an equivalent rating. Cincinnati is at home next round, so there isn't likely to be too much in changes from the semi finals.
Feel bad for that home crowd. That being said, ¡Vamos FC Cincinnati! Their fans better bring it Tuesday night (I'm sure they will)! Keep the Cinderella run alive!
2017 U.S. Open Cup Quarterfinals Home team first, times are ET Monday, July 10 San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 3-2 LA Galaxy (MLS) Tuesday, July 11 Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 3-0 (aet) FC Dallas (MLS) 7:30 pm Thursday, July 13 New England Revolution (MLS) 0-1 NY Red Bulls (MLS) Wednesday, August 2 Miami FC (NASL) 0-1 FC Cincinnati (USL) Semifinals Wednesday, August 9 Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 8:30 pm Tuesday, August 15 FC Cincinnati (USL) v. NY Red Bulls (MLS) 8:00 pm The final will be September 20.
Quarterfinals: Home teams went 2-2 on advancement. Advancement by affiliation: USL 1-0 MLS 3-3 NASL 0-1 NOTE: There were 3 MLS/MLS games. MLS teams did not play against the other divisions. Overall for the tournament: Home teams went 57-38 on advancement. Advancement by affiliation: NASL 9-5 USL 29-17 MLS 22-16 PDL 15-21 Local Qualifiers 12-18 NPSL 8-17
I wonder if "SOLD OUT" means full capacity with all amenities within Nippert Stadium. Or just a portion of the stadium with some sections taped off.
Also, putting up numbers like that for club matches is forcing MLS to maybe bump Cincy ahead of more attractive markets.
First semifinal result: U.S. Open Cup Semifinals Wednesday, August 9 Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 1-1 (pks 5-4) San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) Tuesday, August 15 FC Cincinnati (USL) v. NY Red Bulls (MLS) 8:00 pm The final will be September 20. Kansas City will host.
I guess SKC hosting the final is a safe choice. IF Cincinnati hosted, Nippert stadium would be rocking for the finals. It would be epic; and I would love to see it. But if NYRB wins, the finals would be played to a half empty stadium like it always is. As much as I'm not a found fan of SKC, i know the fans will fill their venue for a cup final.
I believe the order of hosting was random. Not if you don't believe that it was really random, yeah maybe.
Yes, it was random. The draw for final hosting is at about the 10 minute mark of this video: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155198615243941
I know the hosting draws are essentially coin flips. I was just going over the desirable places to host the finals. Cincinnati >>KC>>>>>>>>>>San Jose>NYRB Since KC had already advanced. It was a "safe" choice for a good Finals crowd. Rather than risk NYRB winning their matchup and hosting.
Final of #USOC2017 will be broadcast LIVE on @ESPN (2) & @ESPN Deportes at 9 p.m. ET/8 CT on Sept. 20
Here's the final 2017 update of my ever popular* league ELO rankings. *not at all true Some basic info, for those who want it: 1. These rankings use all USOC games since 1996 to determine the relative strengths of the leagues. The names used below just represent the current names of leagues at that level. In reality the leagues have changed around a lot, and what is now NASL used to be USL D-1, and the A League before it. Similarly for all the other levels. 2. There are bound to be mistakes back in the history, but the beauty of ELO rankings is that they are self-correcting over time, so the "actual strengths" probably aren't too far off from this right now, even with errors in older competitions. 3. The actual results used are as follows: a. Game finishes in regulation with a result: goals scored b. Game finishes after extra time with a result: goals scored c. Game goes to penalty kicks: goals scored before the penalty kicks. The game is "recorded" as a tie. 4. A home team has its rating raised by 100, and the change in ratings for each of the teams is calculated based on the result of the game, and the relative difference between the two ratings. This means that currently, we would expect an NASL team hosting an MLS team to be slightly in favor of the MLS team, but not significantly so. 5. The average change in score for any individual game is about 7. This means that one league goes up by 7, and the other down by 7. 6. There is no way to account for the fact that many MLS teams play 'B' or 'C' sides in the first few rounds they participate. I can only base it on the teams fielded. 2017 Note: Based on earlier discussions, I will keep NASL and USL separate for this year. Once we see how sanctioning for these leagues goes, a final decision about their future representation in these numbers will be made. RoundMLSNASLUSLPDLNPSLUSASA/etc 2016179816091575137112891358 2017 R1179816091575136512981354 2017 R2179816031608136312841344 2017 R3179816231606134112841348 2017 R4178716321609134112841347 2017 R5178116401607134112841347 2017 QF178116301617134112841347 2017 Final178716301610134112841347 Cincinnati put up a good fight, but couldn't hold it together in the end. A reminder to everyone that it is the relative ratings which matter for this, not the absolute scores. While it may look like relatively minor changes, NASL and USL both closed a decent gap with MLS this year. Don't get me wrong, the gap between MLS and those two leagues is still huge, especially since MLS teams don't field their 1st team for the first couple rounds they participate in. It's just nice to see there be a bit more competition between the leagues than we've had the last couple tournaments.
Second semifinal result: U.S. Open Cup Semifinals Wednesday, August 9 Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 1-1 (pks 5-4) San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) Tuesday, August 15 FC Cincinnati (USL) 2-3 (aet) NY Red Bulls (MLS) Final Wednesday, September 20 Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. NY Red Bulls (MLS) 9:00 pm ESPN2
referee crew announced: http://proreferees.com/2017/08/28/2017-lamar-hunt-u-s-open-cup-final-crew-announced/