5 top wnt players accuse ussf of wage discrimination

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by luvdagame, Mar 31, 2016.

  1. puttputtfc

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    I see that. I'm losing a lot of respect for these women.
     
  2. puttputtfc

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    No new news on this, I guess.
     
  3. Beau Dure

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    A statement went around recently saying both sides have agreed to keep their meetings confidential. They were already keeping specifics confidential, but now I think it's safe to say they're done pleading a distorted version of their case on 60 Minutes.
     
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  4. Gamecock14

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  5. DoyleG

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    Funny watching Judy go off in the name of "equality".

    She's a spoiled celebrity princess compared to the hockey players.
     
  6. DoyleG

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  7. jnielsen

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    I'll miss watching them play, but fully support the team.
     
  8. DoyleG

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    Negotiations are still ongoing for the women's hockey team, but USA hockey has been in contact with other players with the aim of icing a team for the WC.

    If the replacement team can reach the podium, then its over for the protesting players.
     
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  9. Yoshou

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    Are they going to pay these other women? Seems to me that one of the issues the women had is that they only get paid in Olympic years..
     
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  10. Gamecock14

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    They got paid a couple grand around the time they played major tournaments. The players were expected to be in "game shape" by that time. Financially, it was hard to sustain this for players.

    The hockey issue is completely different than the soccer one.
     
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  11. DoyleG

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    Or that the women may try to cover themselves in case a failure down the road.

    The US were world champs and gold medals favorites in the last three Olympics, but stumbled when it came to the big show. Didn't make the '06 final when they lost to Sweden in the semis.
     
  12. DoyleG

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    If it comes to that, they may get their expense covered and receive additional compensation.
     
  13. lil_one

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    It seems like a replacement team is going to be difficult to put together as USA Hockey is now reaching out to DIII and rec league players: http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/ar...ers-rec-league-players-potential-replacements
     
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  14. DoyleG

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    The funny thing is the goalie (who is on the side of the strikers) is rather being smug when she was interviewed.

    The women's groups were based on results from last years tourney. The top 4 were put in Group A and the next three in Group B with the promoted side. This setup was done to avoid the lopsided scores that had plague past tournaments and Olympics (the Olympics use the same format).

    Canada would be a challenge in the first game, but Russia has only a few hundred registered players and Finland has about 4500, but few elite level. All they would need to do is finish 2nd in their group and that gets them a bye to the semis. A 3rd would mean likely playing the Czechs, Swiss, or Germans in the QF and they are not at the level really needed to compete (Sweden is in the group and is favorite to win).

    A replacement team finishing 4th would be considered a success while getting a medal would basically destroy the striking players.
     
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  15. Dundalk24

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    You keep bizarrely harping on this idea that a replacement team has an opportunity to "destroy" the striking players. Which from what I've read is starkly detached from the reality of the situation and the ongoing impasse between the sides.

    Given that high school players that haven't even been in consideration for youth teams and beer league players have publicly stated they've been contacted by USA hockey and won't play your bullish assertions re: a replacement team seem fanciful. It seems clear that few if any of the players in the 90 player pool or the youth teams are inclined to be boycott busters. Finland lost to the US and Canada by scores of 2-1 and 5-3 at the last Worlds, then lost to Russia in the bronze medal match. Even if, and it's a very big IF at this juncture, USA hockey somehow pieces together a team on very short notice with no practice opportunities in the lead up there will be a massive chasm between their level and the national team.

    Moreover, the pressure is on USA hockey here. The players are giving up the opportunity to play in the tournament but little else. It's not as if they're losing money for not showing up to work. Make no mistake this a PR nightmare for USA hockey.
     
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  16. Dundalk24

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  17. TimB4Last

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    Many parallels, the most unfortunate being that the Hockey agreement was reached at the last possible moment, with the impending World Championships required (to give the players the required leverage) to get the deal done. No leverage = no (favorable) deal.
     
  18. luvdagame

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    hmm....

    ...how much leverage do uswnt players have right now?
     
  19. TimB4Last

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    Dystopia
    How soon is the next World Cup?
     
  20. kernel_thai

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  21. kernel_thai

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  23. lil_one

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    In an interview on the Planet Futbol podcast (posted in the News and Media thread), Sauerbrunn says that a pay structure similar to the men's (no salary; pay per game) is where they want to go eventually, but the women don't think that structure is sustainable yet for woso. According to her, they're negotiating for a hybrid structure at the moment where the progression to a pay structure similar to the men's is gradual.
     

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