Bundesliga alltime TOP100(2017 Bild)

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  1. Raute

    Raute Member

    Jun 9, 2015
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    You know, Bild is notorious tabloid not football expert. Frankly this ranking looks terrible especially post-millenium players. Anyway alltime ranking is interesting topic, so just enjoy it.

    Unlike previous rankings(made by a few former players&coaches), 64 Bild reporters make it. Each reporter makes TOP50, and then add the rankings. 1st - 50pt, 2nd - 49pt ... 50th - 1pt.

    001. Gerd Müller 2591
    002. Beckenbauer 2585
    003. Matthäus 2569
    004. Seeler 2224
    005. Kahn 1985
    006. Neuer 1921
    007. Netzer 1914
    008. Lahm 1598
    009. Völler 1570
    010. Robben 1500
    011. Schweinsteiger 1500
    012. Lewandowski 1450
    013. Overath 1413
    014. Ballack 1398
    015. Klose 1386
    016. Thomas Müller 1377
    017. Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 1359
    018. Breitner 1291
    019. Elber 1265
    020. Ribery 1225
    021. Maier 1198
    022. Sammer 1137
    023. Fischer 1056
    024. Heynckes 1054
    025. Keegan 1008
    026. Pizarro 848
    027. Hrubesch 840
    028. Hässler 825
    029. Klinsmann 802
    030. Effenberg 794
    031. Kohler 788
    032. Harald Schumacher 779
    033. Vogts 775
    034. Jerome Boateng 726
    035. Ze Roberto 716
    036. Kroos 675
    037. Kirsten 670
    038. Möller 658
    039. Scholl 630
    040. Yeboah 627
    041. Littbarski 609
    042. Schuster 601
    043. Kaltz 600
    044. Brehme 575
    045. Basler 568
    046. Aubameyang 557
    047. Simonsen 532
    048. Chapuisat 518
    049. Ulie Hoeness 498
    050. Libuda 497
    051. Micoud 494
    052. Magath 489
    053. Okocha 487
    054. Lucio 468
    055. Körbel 458
    056. Bein 420
    057. Balakov 416
    058. Reus 389
    059. Marcelinho 376
    060. Ailton 374
    061. Grabowski 368
    062. Raul 365
    063. Diego Ribas 362
    064. de Bruyne 343
    065. Hummels 340
    066. Riedle 308
    067. Thon 302
    068. Bernd Schneider 299
    069. Dietz 296
    070. Karlheinz Förster 290
    071. Özil 290
    072. Klaus Allofs 287
    073. Augenthaler 272
    074. van der Vaart 259
    075. Podolski 241
    076. Bratseth 241
    077. Amoroso 241
    078. Rosicky 240
    079. Lizarazu 232
    080. Briegel 231
    081. Bonhof 222
    082. Dieter Müller 208
    083. Gomez 199
    084. Emmerich 194
    085. Hölzenbein 190
    086. Fichtel 187
    087. Burgsmüller 175
    088. Pfaff 172
    089. Dzeko 169
    090. Rufer 167
    091. Pezzey 167
    092. Buchwald 165
    093. Deisler 154
    094. Held 150
    095. Barbarez 143
    096. Luca Toni 143
    097. Zorc 142
    098. Hansi Müller 140
    099. Jorginho 135
    100. Herzog 130
     
  2. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

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    #2 carlito86, Jan 29, 2017
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    Interesting list (not saying I would necessarily agree with all the rankings but meh)

    Robben being ranked 10 places ahead of ribery based strictly on league form seems at least to me slightly odd
    I always rated peak robben(2014) slightly ahead of ribery but when it comes to to consistency there is only really one winner

    And T.muller ahead of KHR...
    (No Chance whatsoever)
    Rumminge was world class in every single attacking position he played.
    The difference in technical ability between the 2 is so vast it isn't even Worth discussing further
    Rumminge was at his peak arguably the best player in the world competing against very stiff competition
    (Zico, a teenage wonder maradona, Kevin Keegan etc)

    Dare I say even if this era did not boast 2 all time attacking talents Muller would still be behind maybe 20 players give or take
    Suarez, Neymar, robben, ribery, Ibrahimovic, Rooney, xavi, iniesta, luca modric, Gareth Bale, Robin van persie, pirlo, tevez, aguero, Yaya toure, Sergio busquets, sergio Ramos, Thiago silva,Dani Alves and Philip lahm all easily rank above in their respective positions

    Klose being ranked above klinsmann is clearly dodgy
    And Mario Gomez all the down near 90th place despite being at his peak the most efficient and effective goal poacher since RVN

    I will most probably experience a panic attack if I carry on reading this list any further so I will stop here and let someone else take over
     
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  3. Raute

    Raute Member

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    Most of Bundesliga all-time rankings underestimate Rummenigge. I don't know why, anyway it is interesting.
     
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  4. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Taking this newest ranking I had a look at the greatest foreign players:

    010. Robben 1500
    012. Lewandowski 1450
    019. Elber 1265
    020. Ribery 1225
    025. Keegan 1008
    026. Pizarro 848
    035. Ze Roberto 716
    040. Yeboah 627
    046. Aubameyang 557
    047. Simonsen 532
    048. Chapuisat 518
    051. Micoud 494
    053. Okocha 487
    054. Lucio 468
    057. Balakov 416
    059. Marcelinho 376
    060. Ailton 374
    062. Raul 365
    063. Diego Ribas 362
    064. de Bruyne 343
    074. van der Vaart 259
    076. Bratseth 241
    077. Amoroso 241
    078. Rosicky 240
    079. Lizarazu 232
    088. Pfaff 172
    089. Dzeko 169
    090. Rufer 167
    091. Pezzey 167
    095. Barbarez 143
    096. Luca Toni 143
    099. Jorginho 135

    I agree with no. 1 Robben but Bruno Pezzey is much too low and some players are too high. Have I overlooked him or is Bum Kun Cha really not in the list? Petar Radenkovic is not in it, either. Both omissions are unacceptable. Looks like there is not a single foreign player from the 1960s .... Zeljko Perusic, Willi Huberts, Zvezdan Cebinac, Fahrudin Jusufi, Gilbert Gress spring to mind.
     
  5. Raute

    Raute Member

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    Yeah, no Radenkovic, Hellström, Lippens, Rontved, Cha, Polster, etc. It looks too biased towards post-00s players.
     
  6. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #6 Gregoriak, Feb 27, 2017
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    In 1993 TV-channel "Premiere" (now owned by Sky) published a book for the 30th anniversary of the Bundesliga.
    Among other things, it featured a Top 10 for various positions:

    Goalkeepers

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    Comment: Raimond Aumann should not be featured in a top 10 of goalkeepers. Instead, Norbert Nigbur should be here. Bodo Illgner is also a bit debatable.

    Sweepers

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    Comment: Stielike was a defensive midfielder for his clubs. Only for the national team did he play as sweeper. He should not be in this list as a sweeper. Steiner has absolutely no business here. Nachtweih only played two seasons as a sweeper (1986-88). Players like Klaus Fichtel and Rune Bratseth (who are erroneously among the stoppers) as well as Per Roentved and Willi Neuberger are more fitting for this list.

    Full Backs

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    Comment: Bernard Dietz much too low at no. 10. Schnellinger being featured at all is nonsense, as he only played one season in the Bundesliga right at the end of his career (1974-75) and then he played as a sweeper not as full back.

    Stoppers

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    Comment: as mentioned before Fichtel and Bratseth should be in the sweepers list. Buchwald ahead of Kohler is debatable, as Kohler was a pure stopper while Buchwald was more variable as he also played as sweeper and defensive midfielder.

    Defensive Midfielders

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    Comment: Hässler should be among the offensive midfielders. Hansi Dorfner has no business here (additionally to being a offensive midfielder) and Horst Szymaniak is similar to Karl-Heinz Schnellinger. He only played one season in the Bundesliga in the twilight of his career (1965-66) which in no way should warrant him a place in the top 10.
     
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  7. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
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    #7 Gregoriak, Feb 27, 2017
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    Offensive Midfielders

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    Comment: Schuster in the Top 10 is stretching it a bit, as he only played in the Bundesliga at the very start of his career (1978-1980) and at the very end (1993-1996) and thus his very best years are not represented. Thus he should not be ahead of Magath at least. Littbarski could be featured among the wingers but it's alright to have him in here (similar to Grabowski). I would place Manfred Burgsmüller in this list instead of Peter Grosser.

    Wingers

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    Comment: I think Uli Hoeness is too high being featured in the Top 5 and he sould not be ahead of Libuda, Simonsen or Klaus Allofs. Willi Lippens is a player I would add to this list, perhaps even instead of Uli Hoeness (who was not a clear-cut winger but more a forward behind a striker).

    Strikers

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    Comment: Klaus Fischer should at least be no. 3. While Uwe Seeler was a greater striker than Fischer overall, Seeler's best years (1958-1964) were before the Bundesliga started. Instead of Brunnenmeier and Wohlfarth, Dieter Müller and perhaps Manfred Burgsmüller (who was actually an offensive midfielder) should be featured here.
     
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  8. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    #8 PDG1978, Feb 27, 2017
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    Without a forwards/support forwards category, I guess Keegan should really be in AMs too (rather than strikers which would be 1st/2nd choice behind forwards for his Liverpool years I'd think)?

    Although I think the label is 'Playmakers' isn't it so maybe they just didn't see him as that.
     
  9. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Yes it's actually playmakers, not offensive midfielders. The defensive midfielders are actually labelled just midfielders, which is misleading so I used defensive and offensive midfielders instead. They have Keegan among the wingers. Keegan is one of those players who are hard to describe with a single tactical term. I think support striker of forward would be best.
     
  10. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    Yes, maybe 'outdoor strikers' (although maybe that translation is not very accurate) is not meant to only refer to old-fashioned touchline-hugging wingers but also take in wide or general support forwards anyway? Which fits well for Rummenigge/Simonsen/Hoeness (and as you say young Littbarski) too I suppose.

    Anyway, clearly they tried to base the choices on a 4-3-3, as it was a common Bundesliga formation - maybe even with more like 3 strikers at times though even? (like Real Madrid would have used in 85/86 too with Butragueno/Sanchez/Valdano or like Juventus had with Vialli/Ravenelli/Baggio or Del Piero even if arguably/sometimes the latter would be more of an AM/trequarista as opposed to left striker/forward. Rummenigge was more of a pure winger in his earlier days wasn't he (albeit in attack not midfield), as opposed to general forward/wing forward/striker/support striker? Maybe Breitner was borderline between midfielder and playmaker? It is surprising he's in a further forward category than Hassler anyway seemingly.
     
  11. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    'Aussen' in this context means 'outside' (outside forwards, not outdoors) and goes along the English terms 'outside left' and 'outside right'. Rummenigge just like Keegan was more of a support striker who had license to roam anywhere he wanted on the pitch and indeed was not a touchline hugger like Libuda for example. But if one wants to categorize him, "winger" (German term: Flügel or Flügelstürmer = wing forward) will most often be the term of choice in Germany. Though most people would just refer to him and others of his kind as "Stürmer" (striker) without going into more refined characteristics. True, Rummenigge started out as a pure winger, because Beckenbauer, Hoeness and Müller occupied the center regularly so his natural place was that of a provider coming from the flanks. When these three players had left Bayern by 1979, he would start to blossom as a can-do-all offensive player and he was encouraged by his manager Pal Csernai and Paul Breitner to do anything he wanted without tactical restrictments. Breitner was a cross between 10 and 6 and thus logically wore 8.

    They probably put Hässler among the "midfielders" because they weren't sure about him being a winger or a playmaker. In Germany, a playmaker since the days of Netzer and Overath is someone who usually drops deep and then spreads very long and accurate passes. That was not Hässler's thing and neither was it Littbarski's. Yet they put Littbarski in the playmaker category but not Hässler, which is a bit inconsequential. But inconsequence is a main characteristic of lists like this. Personally I would have put Littbarski into the wingers category because I think he was just one of the best wingers ever seen in the Bundesliga. He did very well as a support striker (not a playmaker in the classic 70s sense), too, but was just more exceptional as a winger. Regarding Hässler I might just quote from the "Rangliste" thread I did a few years ago:

    Thomas ‘Icke’ Hässler was one of the most prominent and beloved midfielders of German football in the 1990s. A diminutive, stocky player with a low center of gravity who possessed a brilliant technique and was very adept at quick turns in close space with the ball tied to his right foot. A great short passer and very fine tempo dribbler. Another specialty was bending the ball viciously at freekicks. A successful blend of a tireless midfield worker, a playmaker and a tricky winger. A rare breed in that he was an individualist who was committed to teamplay.

    This may show that it is hard to fit Hässler into a category without doing some of his characteristics an injustice.

    On Littbarski:

    A dribbling prodigy of small stature, Pierre Littbarski began on the right wing but later became an offensive midfielder. In both guises, he was one of the best players ever seen in German football. Like Lippens he was a joker to whom professional football was basically the same as street football. His low center of gravity and his bowlegs favored his dribbling immensely. He was very dangerous coming from midfield, a very able short passer who always wanted to feel the ball at his feet. A typical ‘late Littbarski’ move was taking a run from midfield advancing towards the box where he would dummy one or two opponents with his quick sidestepping and then finish by bending the ball in a mean way towards the far corner of the goal. With his shooting technique, he proved to be a formidable taker of freekicks, too, and was an exceptional player in one-on-one situations. Possessing considerable stamina, Littbarski was a perfect fit for the German national team of the 1980s, yet not always an undisputed starter. Littbarski was right-footed but with a very good left foot, thus he was seen moving a lot between the flanks without his actions losing punch.

    Littbarski like Grabowski is difficult to fit into a category because he excelled in two roles: that of winger and then of offensive midfielder.
     
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  12. msioux75

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    Breitner is named twice, as Full Back and Midfielder.
     
  13. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    Yeah, Littbarski did sometimes play as roaming forward I think didn't he (including alongside Hrubesch in 1982, although using the wings a lot) but probably they are using his current/recent categorisation rather than a forward based one anyway.

    I think Hassler at times operated from mainly the right of midfield (more like a winger but in the Englsih 1980's mould rather than German/Dutch) but AM seems good to me in general (and I think in Euro 92 AM would fit best?).

    Maybe the 3-5-2 wing-back systems that came into German football (including being used in the 1990 WC) made them likely AM's (occasionally alongside each other in 1990 wasn't it, but usually one or the other especially when Buchwald played in midfield).

    There aren't that many current (as of 1993) players listed so probably it shows that Riedle was well very regarded at that time. On the other hand it probably also shows Sammer really came into his own as sweeper (although he'd also played in Italy but playing abroad didn't stop other inclusions as you've said) as we know really.
     
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  14. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    I was going to say they could have done the same for Beckenbauer (sweeper/midfielder), but actually Gregoriak would rightly point out he didn't actually play that much in the Bundesliga as a midfielder (but stayed in that role for the NT for quite a while).

    They could have for Littbarski, but doing it too often might seem a waste of a space that can go to another player.
     
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  15. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    Of course for a while Sammer (and Doll, Thom etc) were playing in the East German league, not the Bundesliga (but they moved to the Bundesliga about the same time as Jorginho, though Doll went to Italy after one season).

    I wonder where the likes of Joachim Streich and Jurgen Croy would have been placing had Germany been unified with one league in their time.
     
  16. peterhrt

    peterhrt Member+

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    Do you think Skoblar should be included for his time at Hannover, or did he not play enough?
     
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    Feb 28, 2017
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  18. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Difficult to say as I personally know basically nothing in depth about East German players. Not my kind of coffee. Their league was rigged but occasionally their clubs did well internationally. One thing I am sure though is that these East German internationals would have had a hard time getting into the West German national team at the time. Hence I dislike that the German FA DFB is including East German players in their own all-time most games and most games for "Germany" lists. Had someone like Felix Magath been playing for East Germany, he would certainly have been a started for the team for 10 straight years (1976 to 1986) collecting cap after cap after cap, like lesser East German players did who now are listed way ahead of Magath (or other superior West German players).
     
  19. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
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    Skoblar did not do well for Hannover 96. I don't remember it exactly but he did not like the harsh training methods and the close man-marking in the Bundesliga. Both parties were disappointed of each other (Hannover of Skoblar and Skoblar of Hannover). So Skoblar definitely did not play well enough to be included in all-time winger lists for the Bundesliga. It is amazing how well he did in France afterwards.
     
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  20. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

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    One of those players that definitely could have made it instead of some others.
     
  21. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    Yeah, I guess Streich would have had Heynckes potentially blocking his entry to the combined/one nation team (theoretically), for example for Euro 72, and surely ended up with considerably less goals/caps, whether or not he'd be more famous now. Likewise Croy/Maier perhaps.
     
  22. Raute

    Raute Member

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    IMO, missing Höttges is a big mistake.
     
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  23. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
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    True.
     
  24. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #24 Gregoriak, Mar 5, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2017
    Inspired by the 1993 "Premiere" Top 10 rankings per position, I thought it could be interesting coming up with similar top 10 rankings per position by decade. For that, I looked at the grades given by "sportmagazin" and then "kicker-sportmagazin" and ranked the players according to the best grades. Keep in mind that in Germany, the lowest grade is the best (1= very good, 5=terrible). The minimum graded games per season for a player is 15 if he has less than 15 games with a grade per season that season will not be included. And a player has to have a minimum of three seasons per decade.

    1963-1969

    Strikers
    avg. player
    2.14 Seeler
    2.38 Heynckes
    2.43 G.Müller
    2.52 Brungs
    2.56 C.Müller
    2.56 W.Solz
    2.62 Rodekamp
    2.66 Emmerich
    2.66 Brunnenmeier
    2.72 Löhr

    Wingers
    avg. player
    1.87 Rupp
    2.21 Held
    2.27 H.Wimmer
    2.42 Hornig
    2.44 Volkert
    2.46 Gerwien
    2.46 Neuberger
    2.47 G.Dörfel
    2.50 Grabowski
    2.52 Maas
    2.52 Cebinac

    Withdrawn Forwards/
    Offensive Midfielders
    avg. player
    1.82 Netzer
    2.04 Krämer
    2.18 Gress
    2.25 Overath
    2.26 A.Schmidt
    2.28 Ulsass
    2.32 Zaczyk
    2.33 Konietzka
    2.33 Siemensmeyer
    2.35 Strehl


    Half Backs/
    Defensive Midfielders
    avg. player
    1.80 Marx
    1.89 W.Schmidt
    1.95 Perusic
    2.10 H.Sturm
    2.10 H.J.Neumann
    2.22 van Haaren
    2.22 Neuser
    2.23 Nolden
    2.24 Kurrat
    2.30 Larsson

    Stoppers
    avg. player
    2.09 Weber
    2.17 Kaack
    2.36 L.Müller
    2.36 Olk
    2.38 Lindner
    2.41 Horst
    2.44 Assauer
    2.45 Menne
    2.48 Reich
    2.49 Schwager


    Sweepers
    avg. player
    1.68 Beckenbauer
    1.86 Fichtel
    1.99 Bäse
    2.03 Wenauer
    2.16 Witlatschil
    2.20 Schulz
    2.20 Sieloff
    2.21 Steinmann
    2.46 Entenmann
    2.47 W.Paul

    Full Backs
    avg. player
    1.86 Vogts
    2.15 Höttges
    2.20 Jusufi
    2.20 Lutz
    2.20 Saida
    2.21 Heidemann
    2.22 Patzke
    2.25 Kafka
    2.35 Sabath
    2.36 Rausch

    Goalkeepers
    avg. player
    1.78 Sawitzki
    1.88 Wolter
    1.89 Maier
    1.97 Tilkowski
    1.97 M.Paul
    1.98 Radenkovic
    2.00 Wabra
    2.05 Manglitz
    2.09 Kunter
    2.20 Schnarr
     
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  25. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #25 Gregoriak, Mar 7, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2017
    1970-1979

    Strikers
    avg. player
    2.46 Seeler
    2.64 Jensen
    2.72 G.Müller
    2.77 Fischer
    2.79 Kaczor
    2.82 Walitza
    2.84 Burgsmüller
    2.84 Budde
    2.86 Toppmöller
    2.93 Keller


    Notable absentees:
    2.99 Hrubesch
    3.11 D.Müller
    3.12 Kostedde

    Wingers
    avg. player
    2.38 Simonsen
    2.43 Popivoda
    2.59 Libuda
    2.61 Hölzenbein
    2.63 Held
    2.63 Heynckes
    2.63 E.Kremers
    2.71 U.Hoeness
    2.72 Lippens
    2.73 Rupp
    2.73 Le Fevre

    Notable absentees:
    2.74 Volkert
    2.75 K.Allofs
    2.81 K.Rummenigge
    2.98 Löhr


    Offensive Midfielders
    avg. player
    2.07 Netzer
    2.28 Grabowski
    2.29 Friedrich
    2.30 Breitner
    2.36 Seel
    2.46 Overath
    2.51 Flohe
    2.54 Oblak
    2.57 Beer
    2.60 Zaczyk

    Notable absentees:
    2.09 Keegan (not included because only 2 full seasons)
    2.36 H.Müller (dito)
    2.70 Bongartz
    2.87 Magath


    Defensive Midfielders
    avg. player
    2.38 Bonhof
    2.44 H.Wimmer
    2.53 Tenhagen
    2.53 Kurrat
    2.59 van Haaren
    2.59 Pavlic
    2.62 Linssen
    2.66 Danner
    2.69 Stielike
    2.73 Schäfer


    Stoppers
    avg. player
    2.21 Witt
    2.32 L.Müller
    2.33 Rüssmann
    2.39 Kliemann
    2.48 Weber
    2.55 Kaack
    2.58 G.Zimmermann
    2.63 Diehl
    2.64 Anders
    2.65 Pirsig
    2.65 Jakobs


    Notable absentees:
    2.30 K.Förster (not included because only 2 full seasons)
    2.69 Körbel
    2.71 Schwarzenbeck

    Sweepers
    avg. player
    1.83 Beckenbauer
    2.24 Fichtel
    2.30 Sieloff
    2.43 Wittkamp
    2.45 K.Franke
    2.47 Damjanoff
    2.49 Schulz
    2.49 Neuberger
    2.50 Schmitt
    2.51 Lutz


    Notable absentees:
    2.52 Zewe
    2.62 Roentved
    2.65 Cullmann

    Full Backs
    avg. player
    1.97 Vogts
    2.34 Breitner
    2.42 Dietz
    2.43 Heidemann
    2.44 Höttges
    2.50 H.Zimmerman
    2.51 Kaltz
    2.58 H.Kremers
    2.59 Groh
    2.60 Grzyb


    Notable absentees:
    2.54 Briegel (not included because only 2 full seasons)
    2.71 Hansen
    2.78 B.Förster

    Goalkeepers
    avg. player
    2.03 Hellström
    2.06 Nigbur
    2.07 B.Franke
    2.12 Burdenski
    2.18 Maier
    2.20 Bernard
    2.21 Gross
    2.22 Kunter
    2.27 Scholz
    2.29 Heinze

    Notable absentees:
    2.33 Kargus
    2.41 Kleff
    2.50 Schumacher

     
    PDG1978, comme and msioux75 repped this.

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