Anangono- I like him when he's at his best (like the 2014 season he had with Liga). Other than that I feel like he's terribly fell off. Not a fan lately. And yes, at 27 it seems like that's the best he'll end up being. Marlon- I honestly put him on the list b/c that's how badly I wouldn't want to see another Nahuelpan. I'd rather see another Marlon LOL. That's just personal preference. Not a fan of Nahuelpan. Millions of dollars wasted on the biggest failed player ever in Liga. I'd even take Chino Luna ten times over repeatedly before choosing Nahuelpan. Walter Chala- Seems possible that he continues escalating in his career. We'll see. He seems interesting. Nothing spectacular, but he's good. Would I want him in Liga? No thanks! He's not Liga's style of #9. He would fit in BSC though. Blanco, Mina, Nahuelpan, Anangono, Alvez- these are all BSC type of #9. More physical and garra most of all. That's what's always appealed to BSC. Liga has triumphed with more technically gifted #9's. Also, very rarely does Liga ever succeed with a national striker up front. Each team has their own style. I think Liga has failed horribly in signing Angulo, Anangono, and then having Tenorio there too. 3 of the same thing. Biggest mistake and poor decision making.
Marlon De Jesus is shit. Waste of a player. He did well and was improving during his time with Emelec. Then he went to Mexico and everything went down hill. Typical Ecuadorean footballer mentality. They feel as if they made it so they stop caring and working on their craft. Remember when Vizuete said that Marlon was the future striker of the National Team? Bahahaha
lol True sh*t, but in all honesty I believed he was going to be the next big thing. I personally thought he was going to be what we saw lately in Jose Angulo. That's what I saw at one point in Marlon De Jesus....an incomplete craft that was being worked on and was under development. To be honest, he could've been a really great striker. He was tall, had explosiveness, speed, he was good with the ball to his feet for a tall guy, and he had physical presence. He knew where to be in the box and was sneaky at beating defenders behind their backs....problem was his finishing- which at the end of the day is what a striker must have. IMO he is one of the biggest fails out of that generation. Same with Edson Montano. Edson was incredible at U-20 level with the NT but never accomplished making it in any first division team at professional level. Marlon did, but he wasted himself away with injuries, bad luck, and possibly even poor decision making. I personally even thought Marcos Caicedo was about to blow up in Mexico- completely wrong. Injuries attacked him too, but he was able to get back on his feet and he's doing great right now in BSC. Renato Ibarra who I thought would end up in the PL is now in America and hasn't fully consolidated himself as a starter yet. John Narvaez I thought was going to be the NT center back...he was fast, great in the air for a not so tall defender, and very clean defensively speaking. He would be on the NT right now if it wasn't for those 6 months he was left without a team after having 2 good years in Emelec where he was improving as time went by. I think he can possibly still save himself too, but he has to do it within this year. At the same time competition has grown. You now have players like Dario Aimar, Jordan Jaime....and now Anderson Ordonez vs. Xavier Arreaga in BSC in addition to a consolidated Luis Caicedo and Arturo Mina on the NT. Tough for John Narvaez these days. Crazy thing is not all these guys end up developing as expected.
De Jesus had all it takes to go far. He had the physical assets European teams look for - height, speed, explosiveness. Like you said his finishing was poor but that's something that can be improved upon. Unfortunately his career stagnated. In that U20 team he and Montano were the the starters. Walter Chala was third fiddle. Ironic given that Chala is the one who's on the national team radar nowadays. I hope Jose Angulo doesn't turn into another Marlon. Ecuador is lucky if we produce a player like that every 5 years.
Very true. 5 years.... Shoot man, I think we'd be lucky to produce a Jose Angulo every 5 years. To my knowledge since I've been 10 years old following futbol very closely, there has not been a single Jose Angulo. The closest we've gotten to that is Agustin Delgado. Kaviedes had the talent to surpass that level 10 fold, but never did. And Chucho gets an honorable mention because he worked his ass off to continue progressing and developing throughout his career. Tin Angulo is a natural. At 21 years of age you rarely see a striker with vast confidence, mentally a good 5 years ahead of himself (besides his one poor decision to sniff coke), physically in great condition to play in European leagues and continue developing his physique,....and his finishing, awareness, timing, positioning ALL impeccable. Imagine where he could've gone with that talent disregarding his one screw up. I picture someone at the level of Luis Suarez, Cavani, Falcao or at the very least a Jackson Martinez....like I said the only player coming close to his talent is Tin Delgado. I hope his suspension is reduce and he can manage to get back on his feet with a smart head and pick up where he left off. That talent was too good to be wasted it makes me sad and angry at the same time. If this would've happened to someone with he skill level of Walter Chala, Cristian Penilla, Marcos Caicedo, or even Bryan Cabezas to give it even more of a push I would've not been so devastated because we produce a bunch of these kinds of players every year, but Tin Angulo was in a class of his own. Haven't seen one like him in all these years.
Seriously Angulo had the talent to be a world class forward. I hoped for him to have a good season with Granada so Simeone would have picked him up and nurtured him like he did with Griezmann. But that's not happening anytime soon due to his mistake.
The NT is where he would have shined the most. I heard his hair test came clean. As of now it looks like he would only get one year. I think he must have had some disiplinary issues before being that he is 21 and never appeared in first division before. Granada doesnt seem to want nothing to do with him tho so in a year or so if he can train with IDV to stay and shape I think he can continue where he left off.
One year is still rough. He'd lose a lot of developmental time. You gotta wonder though...say it was Messi or Ronaldo. How long would they be suspended for?
Angulo needs some tips from kaviedes. We all knew he was always into something but was he ever caught?
coke is only in your system like 48-72 hours if he gets tested before and after games, it's easy to maneuver around the testing
Yeah I saw they only have two points. But I'm sure he would have impressed even if he didn't score a lot of goals (similar to Caicedo when he was with Malaga). A year is not bad at all. Yeah it sucks he'll be out for a year but forwards don't peak until way later in their careers and this kid has all the tools to succeed on the pitch. He just needs someone to keep him on check off the field.
I mean its his fault he is in this situation he shouldnt have been doing coke especially when he was blowing up in Libertadores. What a poor decision from him. Best case scenario for him he gets one year trains with IDV for the time being to stay in shape. When he returns plays in IDV and when he has a good season he makes the jump to Brasil, Argentina, or mexico. Then if he stays disaplined and succeds in his club and the NT then maybe he might go to Europe.
If Enner simply had this kid's bulid who is freakin 6-7 years younger than him, then he would be killing it in the PL and I would argue that he could be a #9 at all times (not just in certain games or vs. certain opponents). Obviously Enner physique doesn't allow him to prosper as a #9 in all games even though he has the instincts, awareness, and positioning of one. If Emelec plays their cards right and this kid continues progressing with no major injuries, they'll be depositing another fat check in their account within a years time frame and Angulo will be flying out to an appealing league. He's got talent for sure. He can continue developing as a #9. Chucho was shorter than him, but because Chucho had a decent build for his height and could hold his ground, he was able to prosper as a #9 even though IMO b/c of his skill he did better behind a target man with more physical presence like Felipe. But this kid Angulo can easily be a target-man without argument. He at least has the body (height and mass) to do so and as far as being at the right place at the right time and finishing- he's already got it. Props to Emelec for developing yet another great player. Bryan Angulo is supposedly 6'0. I saw him as 5'9 or 5'10, but then I googled it and also saw a video where he was next to Achilier and he was a little taller. Never noticed he was that tall when I watched the games. so damn....kid's physically got everything to his benefit and he's skilled with the ball to his feet. There aren't many big guys like that. Once this kid starts making more noise I see Jaime Ayovi out of the NT. I remember Tin Angulo knocked him out the list in September, but then he drug testing came to light and Yoya was back.
He's not ready for a transfer yet. I'd say he needs a bit more seasoning. I expected him break out last season but it never happened. I first remember seeing him play towards the end of the 2014 season under Quinteros. He seemed like a promising player and figured he'd get more playing time the following season. Then he left to coach the National Team and De Felippe came on board and never gave him a chance. He has an outside chance of getting a call up. Quinteros is familiar with him and he's been playing well recently. It's an outside chance but I could see it happening.
So Andy Casquete isn't faking his age... I say is BS but what ever. Ecuadorian courts seem corrupt as ********. I wonder if he can come back from that though. Anyone seen him play or know anything about him? He had a promising career as well.
Definitely. I think playing the entire 2017 season would do him well, BUT if he somehow manages do impress internationally with Emelec in copa lib. And also has an incredible 6 months in the campeonato and a European team wants to snatch him....by all means go. I think by December of next year at the very least he will end up in Brazil or Mexico. He's not Tin Angulo quality but Brayan Angulo is still great quality with lots of potential. I also saw him at the end of the 2014 season when Quinteros had him debut and like I said...I only needed a few mins to be convinced that this kid had quality that I didn't forget his name even though he rarely played last season when I thought he'd be getting more playing time and exposure, but if you're that good that I can still remember your name 2 years later without seeing you play the you must've did something right. Benching Emmanuel Herrera AND Stracqualursi...then you're definitely doing plenty things right. Do I see him on the NT? Quite possibly. Him, Michael Estrada, and Felipe Mejía are the young upcoming strikers of the moment. All 21 and under. I would say it benefits him the most that Quinteros is familiar with him since he was the one who had Angulo debut. Do I see it happening soon? Maybe next year IF Brayan Angulo maintains this level in a progressive state. Same goes for Mejía and Estrada who I see as his competitors but IMO I think he's better. To be honest if we go to Russia I see Brayan Angulo on the list and if Tin Angulo gets his suspension reduced to one year then I can vouch that he will make it just in time. Btw any news on Tin Angulo lately? I know he had 70 days to appeal or something like that. I would think the deadline is very soon or already happened.
I think it may have not been him that faked his age, but someone else in the fam if you get my drift. I don't want to call out names, but the "other guy" with the same last name looks older than Andy IMO and more physically developed. But I may be wrong. It's just a gut feeling I suspect, but if the other guy is the age he claims to be then that's cool too. End of the day I believe Andy. He looks his age. poor guy. Everyone lost because of this. Liga, Andy, and his own stupid agent Jorge Guerrero who is a life sucking son of a b*tch. If it weren't for him this kid wouldn't be registered under IDV and still be playing for Liga. These damn agents are like salesman at a dealership. Hate them and don't trust any. Liga lost 1.5 mil or more because the transaction with Man. City failed because of all this sh*t. Such a shame. I wish him luck and success in IDV and hope he can get back to his old form and continue impressing. This kid was a REAL gem. Another kind of player we get few of (Tin Angulo quality).
I personally know Jorge Guerrero. He was married to my cousin for over 10 years. He's a great guy. I wouldn't blame him for Liga not having Casquete anymore. Everybody jumped the gun once those allegations came out. Liga didn't have his back. If I remember correctly Paz more or less said that Andy was on his own until the investigation was complete and was only welcomed back if it turned out that he was in fact his age. Don't quote me on this but this is how I remember it. Jorge was one of the few that had his back and still does. The kid was suicidal and Jorge helped the family find the kid help. I admit that agents can be greedy and an often times don't have the players best interests in mind. That's just the nature of the business though man. Maybe I'm biased but I'd say that Jorge is different. No doubt that Liga lost a very promising player. After all that happened you can't expect the kid to have gone back to Liga. Independiente has a good track record of developing young talent. It was a no brainer in my opinion.
I could also see him leaving by mid 2017. Actually I'd bet that he gets transferred by then. I don't see him sticking around by this time next year. If he builds upon this season and impresses at the international level then he's a goner. I see Brayan Angulo in Europe or Brazil. I think he'd adapt well to those leagues. Still no news on Jose Angulo. Last I heard he went to France so they can test his hair/scalp to determine how much exposure he's had to drugs. I also read that he was tested in the second leg of the Libertadores final and that that test came back negative.
Liga didn't abandon him. Casquete left on his own b/c he was depressed. I remember the Paz family along with Santiago Jacome saying that he stop showing up to practice and that Casquete wasn't trying to have contact with Liga. Jorge Guerrero came off as sketch to me b/c supposedly he gave Casquetes fam money so that he could be his agent and influenced Casquete not to renew his contract with Liga after December 2015. I will admit Guerrero was with him throughout this entire scandal, but Liga wasn't going to fight to renew his contract if him and his family were already brainwashed by the agent and Andy already had a load of issues on his back. At the end of the day he was under age so if his parents were given some $$$ by Guerrero then maybe that did the trick....they were the ones in charge of deciding for him since he wasn't of age. But you're right....Guerrero (along with all agents) did what he had to do. Look out for personal interest. Andy Casquete is a gem and he fought to become his agent. So props to him for pursuing and at the end of the day since he's in IDV now he's entered the right place to get back on track. So he's back to winning along with his agent. http://www.benditofutbol.com/futbol-nacional/liga/disputa-liga-casquete-agente.html
Brayan Angulo has a higher probability to adapt to any league. He's physically well built for his age to play in Europe. He's got the appropriate amount of mass, speed, and work rate. Seems like a very humble kid. Maybe more on the shy side compared to someone like Tin Angulo, but still seems like he's hungry to succeed. Interesting to know Tin Angulo was tested a second time in the second leg of Libertadores. I wasn't aware of that. I'm assuming news regarding this issue will come out very soon.
Good to know about Andy Casquete. Thanks! Liga could really have used that money. Sucks. Let's hope he continues to improve and forget the past now. For sure he was talented. Somehow kind of reminds me of a Pogba the way he looked. It's also true that his brother definitely looks older lol.