News: Friday, Aug 19 , 2016

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Fiosfan, Aug 19, 2016.

  1. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feel very happy for the fans--definitely reason to celebrate. Also pleased with the league decision for a name change and not have 3 "united" teams in the league. Good news all around. :thumbsup:
     
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  2. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not really on that last...we're still pretty pissed off about why it's ok for Atlanta and not for us since we were using it first, but that will just make for some very creative Tifo for Atlanta's first visit. :)

    The current over/under on how soon someone asks The Don that question tonight is currently 6 minutes. Take the under.
     
  3. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree making them change is ridiculous. But if Bruce "DuNord" McGuire is okay with it, I guess I'm not going to complain
     
  5. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your sense of irony needs a tuneup, sir.

    First of all, there are one or two people in these very forums who can verify that Minnesota was not the"first"team in MLS to use the name "United".

    Don't take my word for it. Ask around.

    Secondly, there was a longstanding league agreement that NO team, aside from the one which has used it since 1996 -no, really - which everyone knew about for years. Nonetheless, when Minnesota was naming their team a couple years ago - their team which they were hoping to shoehorn into MLS - they went ahead and picked "United"despite the agreement.

    At the time,any number of people predicted that, if and when Minny got into MLS, they would have to change their name again because of the agreement, which seemed short sighted but whatever. Again, you can look it up.

    So for anyone to come along now and act like Claude Rains discovering gambling at Ricks is disingenuous at best.

    Your team knowingly picked a problematical moniker. Now it's come back to bite you and you want to whine?
     
  6. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. Papa Bruce ought to be the deciding party.
     
  7. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You seem to be missing my point. Between us and Atlanta, we were using it first. I'm fine with only one United, if DC has veto rights. No issues. But if we don't get to use it, neither should Atlanta.

    FYI, when Dr. McGuire purchased the team, MLS was not on his radar. Only after the Wilf's made a bid for a 2nd tenant in their ark did MUFC respond, as a way to stay in business...which they would not have done if the Vikings got the bid.
     
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  8. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait, are we sure DC still qualifies as a MLS team at this point? :D
     
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  10. argo15

    argo15 Member

    Jan 5, 2002
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get your point, Bill, and agree that would be logical if, as Bluecat82 said, that Atlanta wasn't given a special provision. I don't get why 2 "United" teams is ok but 3 is too many. I assume Atlanta and Arthur Blank have more leverage and are pretty insistent. It seems we are in MLS 1.0 territory to say that the fans won't get multiple teams having the United name, IMO.
     
  11. Bisquick_in_da_MGM

    Jul 26, 2013
    Club:
    Atlanta
    As an Atlanta fan, I wish the Don had said "No Atlanta, you cannot be United. This isn't England." I really wish that Atlanta would change their name.
     
  12. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point there's still only one "Real". They should think about grabbing that up before someone else does. You snooze you lose.

    Conversely, they could just come up with a name that isn't a faux-European club bastardization.

    Now THERE'S a thought.
     
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  13. Bisquick_in_da_MGM

    Jul 26, 2013
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Minny Wednesday is a solid name.
     
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  14. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    I've said it before, I'll say it again.

    FC St. Paul....i USA
     
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  15. Mateofelipe

    Mateofelipe Member+

    Mar 10, 2001
    Spokane, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except United took over for two teams. That's how the English teams got their names. They would be the only United in the league that actually united anything. It's no big deal, anyhow. They will still be the Loons, which does have Minnesota authenticity.
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Really? What two teams united to form Manchester United?
     
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  17. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Manchester United are actually only named that because they thought it sounded good. There was no club unification or anything.
     
  18. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Speaking of stadiums , Orlando City coming along nicely .
     
  19. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reps for beating me to it
     
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  20. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Looking through Wikipedia (not the best source, I know) I'm not sure that West Ham United, Leeds United, Colchester United, Cambridge United (originally Abbey United), and Hartlepool United (united in this case being the union of town and original settlement) are from the union of two clubs.
     
  21. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Still think McGuire should call them "Miami Beckham United."
     
  22. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I gave you rep for name checking Claude Raines. My god, the forties was a golden age of character actors and he may have been the best. (Or tied with Thelma Ritter, although she was more 50s) The man never had an onscreen moment that was simply great....
     
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  23. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they can go old school like when the turned York into New York. So why not Minnesota New United. :rolleyes:
     
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  24. bbsbt

    bbsbt Member+

    Feb 26, 2003
    What's the problem with using multiple 'United" monikers?
    I couldn't care less if there were ten Uniteds in the league... as long as the city's name is also there.

    Really, why is it that no one gets upset over the repeated use of 'FC' or 'City'?
     

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