To be fair, AFC is fcking up (as per the norm) by scheduling this tournament 4 months after the World Cup. Teams don't have time to prepare and this tournament happns when nobody really gives a flying fck. If they were to reschedule this tournament after the first and second round of WCQ's (also use it as a qualification to the Asian Cup) but before the final round of WCQ's, teams will probably take this a bit more seriously.
They can't rely on luck and weaknesses opponent everytime. This result just proves they were extremely lucky to go through the semi final and they hadn't the level required.
This. Sure, we might not be able to win Asian Cup every time, but the fact that we haven't won the Asian Cup for over half a century is quite embarrassing despite being one of the top teams on the continent.
No need to use quotes. They were missing half the team. And that half probably didn't give a horse shite about this tournament.
Tears by fans whose teams lose in a final can only be shed by fans whose teams actually reach a final.
Fair point but our fans weren't dripping tear buckets like your fans were for the Germany game. Brasil, decime que se siente. Tener en casa a tu papa.
Given that Brazil has a lot more history than Korea does in the World Cup, and that to lose at home by that many goals is quite painful, tears were not unwarranted. Korean fans cried when they lost in previous World Cups - in 2006, your team was eliminated in the first round and some of you claimed that one of the Swiss goals was offsides, when it wasn't, and I recall that a newscaster from your country said on live TV that the goal was onsides. A torrent of anger followed, calling him a traitor. At the very least, that newscaster knew the rules of the game - those who attacked him didn't, and let emotion get the best of them. Worse than crying because one's team is badly, but fairly, defeated. Oddly enough even Dick Advocaat said the goal was onsides... We have no "papa." Brazil is the most successful national team in the history of the game. That you as a Korean fan are adopting a very rude chant by Argentine fans makes no sense. Even certain Argentine fans and newswriters criticized this as it was an act of great rudeness.
Once again, I agree with all your points... but this last one isn't unexpected. Argentina hates Brazil and vice versa... there's a certain level of trashtalking that will never go away between these two countries. Same is to be said about intra-country rivalries like Boca Jrs and River. I remember going to a match at La Bombonera and the amounts of shit spewed onto River fans was insane. In spite of all this, a Korean who has absolutely nothing to do with this rivalry chanting an Argentinian chant is a bit cringey.
Yes, of course. Outside of Germany vs. England, Brazil vs. Argentina is the most bitter soccer rivalry in the world. What you have with Japan isn't just a "soccer rivalry;" it is a rivalry that is fueled by great historical animus. The Germans and English went to war twice but made peace. You and Japan really haven't.
LOL. Guys. Time out. Koreans were chanting Argentinian shite in Brazil? Why? And the Argentines reported this? I need details, please!
we're allies on paper but the animosity runs high man especially with the right wing politicians tht just got elected over on the island
Relations between the two have been fluctuating, but to say that "You [I assume he means ROK] and Japan really haven't [made peace]" is an exaggeration or rather misinformed statement.
I may be no expert of east Asian geopolitics, but I do know that Korea and Japan are nowhere as close allies as, say, Germany and England or Germany and France. The Germans bombed London during World War 2, and forced the French to surrender. Yet decades later there is essentially no leftover animosity over history between the people of England & France vs. Germany. I'm sure, and hope, that younger generations of Koreans and Japanese couldn't care less about the past, but the conclusions I draw point to a status quo where Japan (in no small part due to right-wing nationalists like Shinzo Abe) has yet to prove it is truly penitent. No one in Europe seriously questions Germany's postwar remorse. But you Koreans (and the Chinese, perhaps to an even greater extent) appear to be unconvinced that Japan has truly changed. But what do I know. I'm just a Brazilian who loves soccer. Have a good one.