FIFA World Ranking

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by jonny63, Mar 17, 2006.

  1. RockyTopFan

    RockyTopFan Member

    Dec 3, 2015
    Tennessee
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think South and North Korea are on the same level after watching the AFC Olympic Qualifiers. From the CONCACAF Olympic Qualifiers and WWC Coasta Rica should be ranked higher than Mexico. I wouldn't rank a team highly just because they held the US to only 1 goal during a single game, I would evaluate them on how that result was accomplished. During their match, vs the US, they parked the bus in front of the goal and hoped they could could keep the goal differential down, so that they could advance past Coasta Rica with a draw.
     
  2. WWC_Movement

    WWC_Movement Red Card

    Dec 10, 2014
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    Papua New Guinea
    Mexico has a better defense, and is more organized than Costa Rica.
    Costa Rica does have a better offense.
     
  3. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
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    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    well I said four of the top five newly inactive teams, not four of the five. I was never implying I was accounting for them all.
     
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  4. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    a team that I was hyping a few months back, Austria, just recently won the Cypress Cup. Spain's a bit interesting; they're unbeaten since their last loss in the WC, but had recent tie with Romania & Scotland and didn't participate in any March madness tourneys/ And I do think Iceland should be a bit higher, they still got Dagny 'I Wuz Robbed' Dottir on it
     
  5. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Hotjam. Just when I was thinking that you were getting better at spelling names... :rolleyes:
     
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  6. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
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    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    re: Spain
    A lack of playing games does not hurt teams in an Elo system - there is no "rating decay" at all, and the only "ranking decay" is to be labeled as inactive, auto-dropping you to the bottom of the rankings until you play again. So while Spain did drop points due to the draw with Romania, the overall effect was dropping just two points, which is nothing (they earned points from walloping Montenegro and drawing Scotland in Scotland, though not many in either case). The reason they dropped a rank is solely due to China's jump up.
     
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  7. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    I ask here, in the more appropriate thread, what I already asked in the USWNT subforum. What about the USA-Japan match that was abandoned at 76' for thunderstorm? Will it count as a normal game for the sake of FIFA rankings?
     
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  8. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    Abandoned matches don't count. Neither do the scores and cards.
     
  9. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Really? Are you sure? So Japan brings home just a very positive outcome from this USA tour, in terms of FIFA rankings? (A draw with three goals on #1-ranked team's soil + a loss that doesn't count at all?)

    Edit: incidentally, this also means that today's goal won't count for Morgan's official record?
     
  10. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    See the other post.
     
  11. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
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    You mean the post on the other thread, I suppose.

    By the way, now I totally expect a big round of SiberianThunderT calculations, after the finish of this round of friendlies. :laugh: And I want him to tell me if Japan gained any points from this US trip. :sneaky:
     
  12. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    From the US forum:


    I guess a 0-2 loss to World Champions (and #1-ranked team) on their home turf shouldn't anyway hurt Japan's FIFA ratings very much...
     
  13. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    As it was predictable, with a 3-3 draw and 0-2 loss on World Champions' turf, Japan actually gained some points.

    The position didn't change, but Sweden is within close range, and if we'd go beating them at home in the pre-Olympic friendly match in July... :sneaky: ...we could actually catch up with them! :p
     
  14. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    seems like FIFA definitely picked on BS posters(two Italians & two Polish) as their countries took the biggest tumbles. Sorry blisett, gricio, lechus7.......intelectualism & perfect spellin don't seem to account for much these days in woso! While I feel satisfied that they moved Switzerland & the Dottir Klan, four spots up, Austria(#25) & Belgium(#28) should of moves up as well. The bigger disappointment though is North & South Korea, while the southerners tumbled two spots(#19), N Korea gets to keep it's top 10 spot despite it's poor performance at the Asian qualifiers(5th place). Denmark deserve to be stronger, instead tumbled down a couple of notches as well(#20)

    other notes; there's two Norwegians teams; one with Carole Graham Hansen, one without her! As long she's playing, they should be in the top 10, without her, they're correctly (#11)

    Same could be said of Italy; bring back the Silver Haired One! or next time, risk imminent dismissal out of the top 20
     
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  15. WWC_Movement

    WWC_Movement Red Card

    Dec 10, 2014
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    Nat'l Team:
    Papua New Guinea
    FIFA rankings in June, 2026:

    1.) USA (Pugh and Sanchez are still keeping the Americans at #1)
    2.) France (just too much firepower for the rest of Europe)
    3.) Brazil (they finally add more funding to their women's program, and it keeps them near the top)
    4.) Germany
    5.) England
    6.) Australia
    7.) Spain (here come the Spaniards)
    8.) Japan (stays in the Top 10, but so many teams are snipping at their heels)
    9.) Netherlands
    10.) Canada (slight drop for them. they struggle with finding a big time goal scorer after Sinclair's retirement)
    11.) Sweden (all Scandinavian teams are out of the Top 10)
    12.) Norway
    13.) North Korea (they stay Top 5 at the youth level, but they just can't piece together a Semifinal run at senior level)
    14.) Italy (another nation that finally adds a little funding for their women eventually)
    15.) Mexico (oh sh*t, the Mexicans finally got serious about their women too?)
    16.) China (they move up and down, up and down, up and down the rankings, from 11-20, year after year)
    17.) New Zealand (they just don't play against tough enough competition consistently enough)
    18.) Colombia (they just don't have the heart to move up much more from where they're at. flair over heart)
    19.) Costa Rica (they produce some offense, but their defense continues to be a problem for them)
    20.) Switzerland (the boom already occurred around 2019 for them, but when Bachmann retires, they sink)
    21.) Austria
    22.) Iceland
    23.) Nigeria
    24.) South Korea
    25.) Denmark
     
  16. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    Japan should be higher, that's if they can finally show that having the best u17 teams in the world can somehow accumulate to being the top senior squad as well. It doesn't always turn out that way; Nigeria has had the 2nd best showing at the last 3 u20 WC's,but their senior squad have never become world contender.

    Meanwhile, Prez Donald Trump, appoints Sarah Palin as head of the new, notorious Dept. of Illegal Immigration/ Not being able to tell the difference on who's legal or even born in the US, she's deport, O'Hara & O'Reilly to Ireland(thus making them major contenders). Krieger & Sauerbruun to Germany. Harris will follow, marry Krieger(change her name to Krieger) thus Germany will skyrocket to the top. The rest of the bleeding heart libs that make up the entire USWNT will either dodge over to Canada or Mexico!

    At least poster Siberian Thunder will like your 7th spot you gave to Spain(aka Barcelona's women's team). They might only take two shots a game, but boy, do thet make em count!
     
  17. RockyTopFan

    RockyTopFan Member

    Dec 3, 2015
    Tennessee
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Donald will be around in 2026 because that would require him losing this presidential race and re-running in 2020 and 2024. He could win the 2016 election:unsure:, lose or withdraw from the 2020 election, and come back for the 2024 process, but I don't think that option is very likely.

    @hotjam2 you forgot to mention Sanchez being deported to Mexico to help build the new wall.:rolleyes: Also, anyone caught playing soccer will be labeled a foreigner (possible terrorist) and deported to a country with their nearest ancestral background... scratch that idea. All foreigners will be tossed over the wall into Mexico and "AMERICA WILL BE GREAT AGAIN"
     
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  18. WWC_Movement

    WWC_Movement Red Card

    Dec 10, 2014
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    Papua New Guinea
    I've been hyping up the future of Spain for the past few years now, and was the first to do so that I can recall.
    I remember stating back as far as 2008 (when Spain won the Euro) that the women's team would be really good within a decade or so, and being laughed at. The Spanish women's team was horrible back then.

    But in the upcoming 2019 World Cup, watch out. Even in the 2017 Euro tournament.
    Spain is going to break through and eventually get to a Quarterfinal of a World Cup, or a Semifinal at the Euro.

    http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/nations-in-the-womens-game-jockeying-for-position.1769572/
     
  19. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    there is only one person in this world that can stop the madness that is DONALD TRUMP
    hil.jpg
     
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  20. RockyTopFan

    RockyTopFan Member

    Dec 3, 2015
    Tennessee
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Getting back to the ranking discussion. When will the post Olympic rankings come out?
     
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  21. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    friday, august 26.
     
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  22. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brief note re using the ratings to determine the probable result of games at the Olympics. Through the quarterfinals, there have been 22 matches.

    The median rating difference between the two teams is 172
    The average expected win probability (for the favored team) has been .769
    The actual win percentage (won/loss/tie) has been .727
    The average FIFA chart result (using goals scored and the FIFA table) has been .694
    The expected win probability based on the median rating difference of 172 points is .727 (!)

    Important note - I used the official FIFA ratings EXCEPT I substituted a Massey-based rating for the two lowest ranked teams South Africa (1693 in place of the official 1442 ) and Zimbabwe (1508 in place of 1208)
    [I'm going to take the liberty of cross-posting this in the general Olympics discussion]
     
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  23. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Ooooooook, ranking gurus! Time for calculations! :)

    How exactly these Olympic Games are going to impact FIFA World's rankings? Have we to expect any major changes (I guess so)?

    Let's break it into details, please! :p
     
  24. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I read the available information correctly, the FIFA ranking system treats shootout games as ties.

    My guess is that we won't see much change in the rankings, except that we may see an advance by Canada. The US will drop a little, France will drop a little.
     

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