Next DT Selección Argentina

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by tatoRMN, Jul 8, 2016.

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Who would you prefer to be next DT Selección Argentina?

Poll closed Aug 7, 2016.
  1. Diego Simeone

    6 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. Marcelo Bielsa

    6 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. Jorge Sampaoli

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. Mouricio Pochettino

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Marcelo Gallardo

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Ramon Diaz

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Alejandro Sabella

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
  8. Edgardo Bauza

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    More nonsense being reported. Where do they get these numbers? Do they even know what 95% is? A few days ago it was Bielsa, then it was Russo, then it was Bauza, then the AFA was traveling to speak to Poch and Cholo. Now it's 95% that it's Samp.

    Can people just wait till we have a manager in place then we can begin to criticize him? :D
     
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  2. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Sampaoli's great, but he didn't turn Chile into monsters.. he inherited Bielsa's years of work and planning. Not to say there's no merit in his achievements there, but it wasn't something he built. The foundation was already set before he even took over.

    With that said, yes it would be interesting to see what he could do with Argentina. One would imagine a more offensive display than those that Sabella and Martino's teams showed.
     
  3. fafaco

    fafaco Member+

    Jun 16, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    This is true.. I forgot about Bielsa
     
  4. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Chile won both tournament without scoring in the final just like Argentina, only they won it in shootout.

    They're currently struggling in qualifier too.
     
  5. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Now more reports that Sampaoli will be taking over for us, part time.
     
  6. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Sampaoli has indicated to AFA that he wants to part share the Argentina job, and fully take over in 2017.

    Sevilla not agreeing, but Sampaoli trying to convince them.
     
  7. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like 5% won out. :p

     
  8. tatoRMN

    tatoRMN Member

    Oct 21, 2008
    Georgia
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  9. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It doesnt matter who's in charge until we get someone who can install a winning mentallity for the guys when playing a final. We reached 4 finals in less than a decade under 3 different managers.

    If those sitters never turn into a goal, nobody could change the fate of the NT.
     
  10. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Apparently, Simeone has said "no" to the job, but these are rumors.

    Only Sampaoli badly wants the job.

    I am just excited to hopefully have Dybala, Icardi, and Correa on the team. Hopefully Lanzini or Lo Celso turn out better than what Pastore and Lamela have shown so far.
     
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  11. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lamela look quite impressive in recent Copa, it just that the team somewhat continue to relies heavily on Messi. Everytime he was shutdown, they have no clue how to penetrate opponent's wall.

    Di Maria was clearly not fully fit in Copa final.
     
  12. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    LOL ... What a joke if they are really trying to raise 8.1 million for Sampaolis release. Knowing AFA though, they'd much rather pocket that kind of money.

    With Sevilla putting obstacles for Sampaoli, Bielsa being Bielsa, and Someone rejecting the NT again, I have a bad feeling we are gonna end up with Bauza....... which is really scary. If you guys thought Tata was bad, just wait.
     
  13. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    The Argentine government is ready to give the $8.1 million; they are also some private investors.

    I say we give it to the person who is just dying to coach us.
     
  14. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    AS English:

    With help from the government, the Argentine Football Association hope to raise the 8.1 M euro buy-out fee to release the coach from his duties with Sevilla.

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    Verónica Brunati

    26 July 2016 23:07h CEST

    "It's difficult to explain that while the AFA is struggling to pay for day-to-day running costs, we will be paying Sampaoli's retention fee, but that's how it is", a high-ranking official from the Argentinean Football Association (AFA) told Diario AS. And it's not as ridiculous as it might sound...

    The crisis-hit AFA was recently inspected by FIFA and CONMEBOL, but it is a government commission which has set about managing the future of Argentine football.

    The Argentinean government have taken it on themselves to find a new national team coach and while Armando Perez, president of the four-man regulatory commission, has already conducted interviews with prospective candidates [São Paulo's] Edgardo Bauza and Miguel Ángel Russo, the man set to replace Gerardo Martino will beJorge Sampaoli. The commission also contacted Marcelo Bielsa, but the 61-year-old declined to say one way or the other whether he would be interested in taking on the national team post.

    Now officials are searching for the economic means to release Sampaoli from his post at Sevilla - that means meeting his buy-fee, of some 8.1 million euros. At the moment, it is not known whether the Argentine government or a private company will finance such a move.

    What is known is that Sevilla will initially be given an offer to consider lettingSampaoli take on the Argentina job on a part-time basis - sharing his club duties with the national team until January. Argentina have six World Cup qualifiers - two per month, in September (Uruguay and Venezuela), October (Peru and Paraguay) and November (Brazil and Colombia); the plan is for Sampaoli to take over the reins for those games, combining his duties with Sevilla while the retention fee would be paid, effectively freeing him up by the New Year, which would give Sevilla time to find a suitable replacement. If Sevilla are against the idea, the AFA would pay the buy-out up front.

    Apart from guiding Argentina to 2018 World Cup Russia, Sampaoli's other task would be coaxing Leo Messi to reconsider his decision to quit the national team. The coach recently held a brief conversation with Messi's father to let him know that he has his unconditional support...
     
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  15. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Also, really disappointed in Simeone if he really did decline. I understand that the Federation is in a mess, and there is no money --- but come on, this is the Argentina national team we are talking about.

    It is once in a lifetime experience, and the chance to be the man to end 32 years of World Cup hurt in itself should be too much to refuse.

    This is how many times Simeone has refused? Pathetic, really.

    At least fools like Diego have their heart in the right place, willing to coach us for free.
     
  16. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Agree about Diego but cant really blame Simeone either.
     
  17. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Bauza would be a disaster. I am hoping that it is not him. Only solace I can take from this is that they have not yet offered him a deal and they are hoping to land Sampaoli. By now, they would've hired him or another candidate because time is ticking. I understand Sevilla's stance for not wanting him to take the job, even on a part-time basis. They have gone after players that suit his plan. The issue is not really part-time job, national team managers have maybe 6-10 games a year when it is not a tournament year, the issue is the long-term, the AFA wants him to take over as a full-time manager.

    As for Cholo, the head coach for Argentina is not a once in a life time gig, he will have plenty of chances. He is still a young man and he's leaving Atletico anytime soon(At least to coach the NT). Wait 10 years or so, then we will see. The same goes for all the young managers we have at home and abroad. Lets wait and see their evolution and who knows who else will come on. Maybe one day Masche will be a manager, who knows what the future holds for us in that department.
     
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  18. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I have been impressed by Pizzi guiding Chile at the CA-C. He could be a candidate for Argentina after 2018.
     
  19. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It's unbelievable how many great managers are Argentine, arguably more than any other nation, but no one wants or can take the job: Bielsa, Diaz, Pekerman, Sabella, Gareca, Sampaoli, Simeone, Pochettino, Gallardo, Pizzi.
     
  20. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    The AFA negotiator meeting Messi and Sampaoli today.
     
  21. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Sampaoli saying taking the Argentina job would be irresponsible.

    Simeone and Pochettino have already said no. Maybe Bielsa too.

    Carlos Bianchi and Ramon Diaz now being touted by the media.
     
  22. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

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    :D
    I'm kidding but let's just wait a bit longer till we have a resolution to this ordeal.

    And LOL at people touting Pizzi as a "great manager". The Chilean fan base wanted his ass out during the group stages of the CWC and he hasn't exactly set the world on fire in qualifiers. He's nowhere near a top manager.
     
  23. tatoRMN

    tatoRMN Member

    Oct 21, 2008
    Georgia
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    As we can't hire our Europe based managers and Bielsa I would go for Sabella. Does anybody in AFA remember him? There are no rumors about him
     
  24. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think the main reason Sabella left was because of the mess in AFA. It was not result-based, as the team got to a World Cup final for the first time in 24 years. He even stated before the final that he would leave his position regardless of the score, further proving the point since at the time of the decision he could have still been WC champion.

    Things in AFA haven't improved since then... if anything, the mess has expanded. Besides lack of interest on AFA's side, I don't think Sabella wants the spot either. Maybe in the future, but since he has left AFA has fallen (further) in shambles and the NT has lost two consecutive Copa Americas... not exactly the best ingredients to tempt him back.
     
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  25. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    True, Messi already made some obvious statement and very vocal on his criticsm on AFA even before Copa final.
     
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