El indecido me molesta, si no me quiero, Transfer Thead 2016

To be fair, as it stands today, Xhaka is the most expensive purchase by a European club so far this window:

 

Nothing big is happening until the Pogba move goes through or definitively dies. That money is floating out there, and everyone potentially selling wants the bump from it rippling out from Juventus.

That's why Napoli (and others) can hold such a high line.

Waiting for that is clogging up the top half of the transfer market.

 

i wouldn't want it to happen because that's just ridiculous numbers. on the other hand, it would put his cost at not much more than martial, i think? or am i remembering martial's original numbers wrong? i know a lot of it was conditional but, if i recall correctly, the majority of it was fairly easily reachable.

 

Mkhy wages at United are rumored to be arounf 225,000/w. No way we could match that w/out blowing up the club wages structure. He is also managed by Raoila, a complte piece of work, who brought Ibra to MU as well.

 

at end of day - that chart will be wholly different by end of summmer

 

Does Wenger really make the transfer decisions or set the financial parameters for what can be net spent over a transfer window? Don't Arsenal have a sporting director or team behind him that are also influential in making such decisions?

In an ideal world, Arsenal would sell their underperformers into this inflated market and bring in 3-5 players on top of Xhaka to strength the side. In order to be a protagonist in the CL and win the league, a club needs two solid players in each position that as a collective can be tactically flexible. This does require that Arsenal sell to make space in the squad.

The players that are currently WC or top level go for insane values or can't be moved. The best young talents that may (or may not) reach this level are being priced very richly plus are also very hard to purchase unless for a huge premium. It's just not realistic to bring in 3-5 truly world class or potentially world class players all at once. This makes it difficult to improve the quality of Arsenal. The better strategy my likely be to bring in good quality young players for 30-40m euros each and boost the depth of the team.

Arsenal don't seem to be only one 100m player away from being in that top class of squads.

 

Kante, Pjanic, Gundogan, Krychowiak all seem like great value pick ups in today's market. Hummels, age 27, is good value for less than 38m.

 

Eventually Arsenal will have to buy a CF whether it happens now or next summer. The question is whether they can find an unknown that becomes great or whether they take the risk and buy highly valued top end young talent.

If any club buys a player, even at a high price, and their value rises then it's a net boost. On the other hand, if they hesitate and pass where their prospective purchase goes on to develop into a great player, then their value will be even more unattainable. It's not easy.

 

You make some good points, but if we had a 100m attacker last season we'd have another league trophy on the mantle...no doubt about that in my mind. This upcoming season, it may not get us a title, but it may help us to maintain CL status and actually win a knockout matchup in the CL. That's likely 25-30m euros not to mention a big signing gives some added leverage in renegotiating all these contracts we have coming up--özil, Sanchez, Ramsey, kos all due in under two years. If come January we are looking shit, then these guys start looking at options. If they don't re-up the club will have to sell or face losing them on a free--see RVP.

On top of that, you'd have extra merchandise sales and a boost to sponsorship. Certainly this would be on the order of 10s of millions? At least. So ya, spending 100m on a single player can improve arsenal, but we still will be off the first tier at the moment.

 

An expensive elite attacker can do a lot for a team. There is no doubt of that especially a squad that is top quality everywhere else. Arsenal's back line is still very suspect. The midfield only boasts one top player in Ozil (who is elite in what he does) unless Xhaka is ready to play at this level immediately (if at all). Sanchez is a top attacker and Giroud is serviceable but there isn't enough quality depth in this department or really throughout the team.

 

didn't hummels state that he wanted to go to bayern?

 

He did. It's always up to the player. The hope is that they won't force a move since this will force the selling club to compromise too much. The Hummels price is turning out to be great business for Bayern.

 

I always wonder how long until Ozil forces a move. He is hitting prime years and his trophy cabinet isn't that great for a player of his calibre.

Still surprised we have Koscielny in our back four to date.

 

I know we get shit for being g a feeder club but poor dortmund

 

"Very suspect"? Based on what? We had the highest #of clean sheets with United last year, and ave conceded less than one goal per game. We made some errors for sure, but I wouldn't say we were very suspect. Next season may be different, however. With per aged, kos tired and gabby suspect.

The midfield is 3 players...we have ozil, Ramsey, xhaka, elneny, Coq, wilshere, cazorla for three slots. While the best of those three perhaps isn't elite of the elite, the possible combinations and depth is the best in the league imho.

The forward line is different--Giroud is serviceable as we saw in the euros--he scores and created chances. He can't play every game and he does have dips in form. This is true for Alexis as well. We need a player to complement the two of them and to provide depth.

I think Griezman would be ideal as we saw his ability to play off Giroud for France. Also mahrez would be my pick to replace Danny.

Those two would cost??? 150m eiuros maybe. That is if we cloud even get them--doubtful. But assuming we could with a nice wage packet we could manage it by selling some fringe: Walcott--25m, ospina/sczez--10m, Campbell-10m. That takes it to 100m euros. Impossible to think that arsenal would net spend 145m euros in a summer, but I think it's within our means and those two would help us immensely I think. Both are younger and will have residual value as well. Edit: I'd even consider selling Sanchez if we got those two.

It's not about becoming elite with one swoop, it's about building and competing.

 

I think the issue with Dortmund is that they don't sell for crazy preventative fees. Hummels going for less than 40m when Koulibly is 50-60m, Bonucci 60m+... etc. Miki was reasonably valued. Today's market is insane.

 

Apparently icardi's wife is now tweeting from London

Lol

 

The more and more time goes on and the less we hear about us being involved in deals, I am starting to think we will stay as is and not add anyone else. Arsene will again hope for Walcott and Giroud to be the strikers who rotate. Chambers/Holding will be our 3rd and 4th CB's. Midfield is fine. Iwobi of course will be on the wings with Alexis/Chamberlain as backup.

 

They just created a great young team this summer.

And Hummels is not great.

 

That's bullshit
Yes - Dortmund will be a solid team but Hummels .. Is a fantastic player- plagued by injuries Last couple of years - but to write him off at 27 is just ignorant