Pre-match: USA vs. Argentina - Copa Semi - 6/21/16

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  1. John McGuirk

    John McGuirk Member+

    Jun 12, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Against the #1 team in the World, with the #1 player in the world.

    No bobby, jermaine, or alejandro... they will be missed.

    We will need an A-team performance for 90 minutes, no exceptions.
     
  2. John McGuirk

    John McGuirk Member+

    Jun 12, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would've been the match in 2014 had we beat the belgians
     
  3. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This game has huge implications for some individuals in our side. A great showing from Guzan will help him relocate. Yedlin is most likely going to be loaned out for another year and a great showing against top class wingers on the big stage could help him find a better situation than Sunderland. Brooks puts in another master class appearance and Herta will have a very hard time keeping him.
     
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  4. Galaxian

    Galaxian Member

    Oct 30, 2005
    Newport Beach, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm excited to see how this game turns out. We typically play Argentina fairly close, so if we show discipline and can hold it down, we can keep this close and give us a chance.

    Not having Bobby, Jermain and Bedoya obviously hurts. In my opinion Bobby hurts the most.

    If we win, it's going to be epic and we're in the final. If we lose, I hope we get a chance for Colombia revenge in the third place game...
     
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  5. John McGuirk

    John McGuirk Member+

    Jun 12, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Greg Heaney

    Greg Heaney Member

    May 5, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Maybe...but club teams don't put as much stock in NT matches as you may think. They're far more likely to pull tape of Brooks' season at Hertha last year. Not saying it can't help a bit, but you didn't see Costa Rica's impressive WC run land them all on Champion's League clubs, right? It might help a young unknown player more than someone with a past.
     
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  7. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It saw Real Madrid go out and buy Keylor Navas
     
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  8. vexco

    vexco Member+

    Nov 2, 2013
    It also saw a few of them move to bigger leagues. One defender went from Columbus to Serie A, if I recall.
     
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  9. Dough Boy

    Dough Boy Member

    Sep 27, 2014
    On repeat until Tuesday:

     
  10. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We will lose.
     
  11. John McGuirk

    John McGuirk Member+

    Jun 12, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    The US is 1-0-4 in non-Gold Cup tournament semifinals. That includes the win against Spain in 2009, the heartbreaking losses to Brazil in 1995 and Mexico in 1999, and losses to Saudi Arabia in the 1992 mini-Confederations Cup and Argentina in the 1930 World Cup.
     
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  13. aarond23

    aarond23 Member+

    Feb 24, 2006
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a gravy game, get a result and we are in dream land.

    Lose, well its what everyone would expect. Just dont let it get crazy or give up.

    Third place games are garbage, half full stadium in Phoenix with teams playing half ass.
     
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  14. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Playing with house money.

    Go big....
     
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  15. USMNTforLife

    USMNTforLife Member

    Jan 31, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I know a lot of people don't agree with this but I'm glad we're playing Argentina instead of Venezuela in this game. We came into this tournament to see how we stood up against the best, we can play teams like Venezuela in the Gold Cup.
     
  16. John McGuirk

    John McGuirk Member+

    Jun 12, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So tempted to buy a ticket and drive 8 hours to Houston.
     
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  17. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    I'm thinking we go after them (with appropriate defensive shape). Bunker ball is an invitation to get carved up. Might as well play positive. I just hope we keep the scoreline respectable.
     
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  18. napper

    napper Member+

    Jan 14, 2014
    Fullerton
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are not Mexico.
     
  19. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've hated Argentina even before Maradona's Hand of God.


    Just kick ass and take some names!!!
     
  20. yabo

    yabo Member+

    Jun 1, 2000
    Poolesville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree - go with Nagbe instead of Beckerman. Play Pulsic instead of Zusi. Play to attack, not defend for 90 minutes
     
  21. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hell yes I'm glad! This is our consolation for not making the Confed Cup. I was resigned to just having to track us through qualifying, and not getting any meaninful matches against high-level opponents until Russia. We are guaranteed to play at least Argentina and one of Chile or Colombia now. What better preparation (not to mention showcasing for the young guys) could you ask for our team?

    And that's the worst case scenario! But, what if we get a little lucky? Maybe Pulisic shines... Brooks takes it another level... Dempsey does his thing... Argentina is caught napping... and pure bliss :)

    But seriously, even losing respectably to Argentina, and getting to play Chile (for some comparison to Mexico), or a rematch against Colombia should make for 2 enjoyable soccer games.

    I'm happy.
     
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  22. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    So long as we don't come out like a disorganized mess we have a punchers chance, but Clint is going to have to play as well as he did against Ecuador, and Michael Bradley is going to have to have a game better than he's had in about 4 years.

    And even then we need to find a way to get behind their defense to open up those spaces for Clint to work, and without Wood that's going to fall entirely on Zardes.

    Basically take the 2009 Spain game plan and recreate it
     
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  23. nthemsum

    nthemsum Member

    Jan 14, 2006
    boise,id
    I always thought that Beckerman was held out of the Belgium game to dance with messi for 90 minutes but it was not to happen. Now two years later Becks will be given the same responsibility. Becks has not been used much and is ready for the task. If Becks can cover messi like a glove. The game will be left to others.

    The qfs and sfs and finals versus vs Belgium, Holland, and Germany were examples of lack of creativity in the final third for Argentina when up against a European back 4. But why? Looking at the tape i noticed a lack of connection between the middies and the forwards. If the US plays with their back 4 they technically are European trained.
     
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  24. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    Beckerman is far too slow to play in this game.
     
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  25. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cannot think of a better matchup to get joe public, who is coming off the nba finals, to watch the usmnt on tv.
     
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