That is what I meant when I said I preferred a Cup competition, in a tournament format, which can be played alongside their domestic league schedule. I think it is the only way Thailand and Vietnam could be encouraged to participate.
A Cup competition, played in the A-league off season (June-September) would be the only way that any Australian Clubs would consider competing.
After delays and despite remaining doubts about the participating teams, the ASEAN Super League (ASL) has been given a start date for its much-awaited kick-off. With clubs from Thailand and Malaysia are afraid that the super league would ruin their strong-growing domestic league, Vietnamese champions Becamex Binh Duong, on the other hand, are interested in the ideas of participating in the annual tournament. Cao Van Chong, general director of Becamex Binh Duong, claimed the Vietnamese powerhouse are interested in the much-anticipated competition but was waiting for the regulations before they would decide to join or not. “ASEAN Super League would fit our strength and philosophy. If the system allows Binh Duong to compete, we will invest for further improvement and participate in the tournament,” said Chong, on Vietnam’s Thanh Nien Newspaper. “However, we have not had much info about the ASEAN Super League. The system has to be put in place first, either by AFF or by the clubs themselves.” http://footballchannel.asia/2015/07/30/post5949/
PT Liga Indonesia CEO Joko Driyono has claimed that Indonesia might not participate in Asean Super League, which is planned to start rolling in August 2016. AFF secretary general Azzuddin Ahmad announced that AFF was allowed to establish the league. He also hoped that all 12 members of AFF will join the Asean Super League. “We are expecting further discussions with the ASL committee,” said Joko Driyono. “There are still many things to discuss, such as the competition regulation and technical and commercial aspects.” “Indonesia is also in a very difficult situation,” he added. “If the Fifa suspension is not lifted by the end of the year, it is almost impossible for Indonesia to play a part in the ASL in 2016.” http://footballchannel.asia/2015/07/27/post5862/
With the Asean Super League (ASL) set to start in August 2016, Singapore's S-League clubs are concerned over what the future holds. For most of the local clubs, the main worry is that they have yet to hear from the Football Association of Singapore (FAS) of its plans to lead the local league into its 21st season next year. Geylang International coach Jorg Steinebrunner feels the FAS - whose president Zainudin Nordin heads an Asean Football Federation committee working on the format of the upcoming ASL - should come out to calm the worries of the S-League fraternity. Each of the 12 AFF member nations are expected to have at least one team in the ASL. "If they are going to launch an ASL, then at least let us know early," said the German. SCORING AN OWN GOAL Now with the ASL, we are again pushing fans away to another competition. It is bad for the S-League. We cannot be neglecting our own league. JORG STEINEBRUNNER, coach of Geylang International "At this time, most clubs are already planning for the next season, in terms of assessing areas of improvement and players to sign. "Even if it's not so good news for the S-League, at least give the players and coaches some time to plan and prepare for what is next." Chief executive of Home United, Azrulnizam Shah, said: "As important stakeholders, it would be better if there is some form of communication to let clubs know of the situation. So far, all we know is information from the media." Steinebrunner, who formerly played for Gombak United and Woodlands Wellington and witnessed healthy crowds in the late 1990s, is also concerned that the S-League's attendance - 1,000 on average - could take a hit when the ASL starts. "Now with the ASL, we are again pushing fans away to another competition. It is bad for the S-League. We cannot be neglecting our own league," he lamented. Singapore's LionsXII, who play in the Malaysian Super League, enjoy good support at home games in Jalan Besar Stadium. Geylang centre-back Hafiz Osman, 31, said: "For us players, we are not sure what is going to happen to the league. "The S-League players are concerned and we wonder if we have to expect surprises just like last year." Last November, he was part of a Tanjong Pagar United side who were informed that the team would sit out the current season. A controversial decision was also made to merge Woodlands Wellington with Hougang United. The news came as a shock to the players of the affected clubs who were left with limited time to secure a contract with a new club. It did not help that the S-League introduced, and subsequently rescinded, a controversial age cap on the number of players above 30 who could be signed. While Hafiz was offered a contract by Geylang, others were not as fortunate and had to scramble for alternative employment. "I hope it does not happen again. First of all, it was shocking and disappointing and I hope there is no repeat," he said. The Straits Times reported yesterday that Kuala Lumpur academy Frenz United are in talks to send an Under-18 team to play in the ASL. Thai sources added that Bangkok-based team Port FC, who finished 13th in last year's Thai Premier League, will be the kingdom's representatives. Tampines Rovers striker Indra Sahdan, 36, who has played in the S-League since its debut season in 1996, is perplexed and saddened. "If the ASL is a very strong league with top teams, I can perhaps understand. But if it's true that these teams will compete, then what is the benefit for Singapore football? "It is very sad to see the S-League not being prioritised. We should be concentrating on our own league." The ASL has also divided some fans. Stanley Wong, 40, a businessman, said: "It (the ASL) is a substandard league. If we send our best talen, it will be a waste of time. "After all, what can you learn from playing the teams that are reportedly joining the ASL? For sure, an ASL would kill the S-League." But student Farhan Afiq, 22, said: "Football fans are always looking for something new.... when the LionsXII were created, there was a buzz and an ASL is pitting Singapore teams against regional teams so I think there will be greater excitement." http://www.straitstimes.com/sport/football/asl-worry-for-s-league You are right druryfire. The Singaporean clubs are worried about the impact of the ASL on the S League.
I'm not surprised at all. But it seems that Singapore is the nation pushing this competition. Do they have an hidden agenda? And then look at the article you posted, it say Port FC from Thailand will enter. This is not a Super League is it. It's a money league being organised to make a quick buck. I don't think it benefits football this league but a few pockets that's being pushed through. Again though. How anyone can make an opinion on it without any forthcoming information is unreal. How can it be a Professional Super League if run on an amateur basis. Fans will always be last to know anything so how they going to generate a fan base?
I will hold my judgement until the details are fleshed out. It is hard to make an assessment at this time with all the conflicting info. Potentially with a market of over 600 million fans, it can make quite a huge economic impact commercially, but the devil is in the details. Personally I think they should adopt a Cup format(with the existing champion and/or subchampion clubs if they decide to leave the champions for AFC competitions) initially and go from there.
Yes. I've had a think. I'd be all for something along the lines of the Gulf Club Championship. Teams that aren't in AFC competition, so it gives them some good competitive football for them to bridge that gap. Even the Singapore Cup currently does this to a point. I'm quite happy for a competition to take place. But it shouldn't be replacing other competitions and particularly domestic leagues as we currently know them. They could even run the competition in a similar fashion to the AFF Youth competitions. One host, could take upto two weeks to complete. Short and sweet, gets your attention and you want more of it. I'd even say it should be pre-qualification for the ACL if they really wanted to add incentive if they used champions.
The AFF Under 16's Championship is on at the moment. The results so far: http://www.aseanfootball.org/v2/?page_id=20566 Laos topping Group A would have to be a bit of a surprise. Thailand also qualifying for semi finals from Group A, with a game left for all teams. Laos need to win to remain top (play Brunei, the bottom placed team), whilst Thailand need Laos to lose or draw and for them to win to finish top. Second place plays Australia in the semi. Group B sees Australia on top with Myanmar and Cambodia to playoff for the last semi-final spot (Cambodia needs to beat Myanmar in their last group match). Australia plays bottom placed Philippines and will finish top (unless Myanmar beat Cambodia by 10 plus goals and Australia lose by 4 plus goals to Philippines).
http://www.tnp.sg/sports/football/no-approval-fifa-yet-asl-confident-being-game-changer Why ASL will fail Everybody want to be first to claim credits so (fake) infos like approval was leaked All the ones pushing for it r ministers in their own country so will they want to listen each other It a joke as the one pushing for it in singapore will step down soon & expect his successor to push for it while he claim credits
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/sg/features/asean-super-league-plans-clear-singapore-sky The ASL is set to lose severals members before it even start Cambodia, east timor and Laos r pulling out as they refused to pay us$5 million to play in it It also becoming a joke as thailand send (soon to bee)a div 2 team, phillpines their u23 & malaysia their u18 ------- Funding woes hit asean league Cambodia have added to the uncertainty surrounding the ASEAN Super League (ASL), threatening to skip the proposed 2016 kick-off owing to funding issues. Football Federation of Cambodia vice-president, Khiev Sameth, told The Sunday Times that the country will not be fielding a team as sponsors have not been forthcoming."I understand each franchise will cost around US$5 million (S$7.1 million) to run," said Sameth, who is also the vice-president of the ASEAN Football Federation (AFF), which is the organising body of the ASL."We don't have that kind of money. If we cannot get financial support, Cambodia will have to skip the first season at least. "It is believed that the franchise price tag includes travel expenses - given the league's home-and-away format - and a bank guarantee.Sources said Timor Leste and Laos face similar problems sourcing for sponsors.This piles the pressure on the ASL, touted as a game-changer featuring at least one side from each of the 12 AFF member nations, excluding Australia.This newspaper reported in July that Malaysia and Thailand are concerned that the ASL will draw fans and media attention away from their strong domestic leagues. While the ASL's organisers privately insist that they retain the two countries' support, sources said talks have hit a stalemate over the quality of the teams they will send.The Thais have proposed fielding Bangkok-based team Port FC, currently 15th in the 18-team Thai Premier League. Malaysian academy Frenz United have also been in discussions to send their Under-18 outfit.The Philippines, meanwhile, are set to be represented by their national U-23 side, as it is focused on launching its own domestic league by early 2017. There is also uncertainty over Indonesia's participation as their football association is currently suspended from international competitions by world football governing body Fifa.First mooted in 2007, the ASL is fronted by the AFF and its marketing partners World Sport Group. Football Association of Singapore president Zainudin Nordin is heading the AFF committee working on the mechanics of the new league, such as its composition and fixtures.The LionsXII, currently competing in the Malaysian Super League, are expected to be Singapore's representatives, while the Singapore's Under-23 side, the Young Lions, could swop the S-League for Malaysian competition. The ASL is still waiting for Fifa to finalise regulations for a framework for proposed regional leagues globally.A decision is not expected any time soon. The Zurich organisation already has its plate full combating internal corruption and preparing for a special presidential election in February when incumbent Sepp Blatter steps down. AFF general secretary Azzuddin Ahmad previously said that the ASL is on track to kick off its debut eight-month campaign in August next year.This looks increasingly unlikely, especially if major players like Malaysia and Thailand continue to hold out while other member nations like Cambodia struggle to find the resources to compete.
That FourFourTwo article doesn't paint a very inspiring picture of the competition. I just don't see it taking off at all. Perhaps a better solution would be to run something like a Europa League under the Asian Champions League (but only for ASEAN nations). That is, ASEAN Nations have a group stage and then any ASEAN teams that don't progress in the ACL can join the ASEAN League at the knock-out stage (again similar to how UCL teams go to the Europa League). With fewer games the costs should be less. I reckon an NPL team from WA or the NT should nominate to be the representative from Australia, especially if they developed a league similar to what I have described above.
I suppose considering the "power" that these nations have on FIFA committees it isn't surprising that some of the lesser nation's accept bribes. ASEAN has an ongoing problem with matching fixing too ... think there is no quick solution for the cultural change required.
Well, they don't seem to think a bribe is a bribe for a start, it's just an act of business for them. And match fixing, it seems to be an accepted nature of the game in the region at the best of times. I'm sure some teams just say to themselves, that the other side simply paid more for the outcome!
Well if you read the news, FIFA is full of crooks, including potential FIFA president Platini himself. It is not only SEA that accepts bribes, people in Europe, Africa and the Americas do as well. The old system encouraged back door deals so unless they make changes, it will continue. Living in a state(Illinois) in the US where corruption is a way of life, I find it hard to condemn those smaller countries that have the same problems. 2 of our past governors(1 democrat and 1 republican are spending time in jail right now for corruption abuses) I am sure not every football official in SEA is corrupt, and was trying to change the system, just like elsewhere. Those who like making condemnations about others should take a close look at themselves as well.
Now FAS said it will send LionsXII to play in the ASEAN Super League when it commences in 2017. Maybe FAS can send LionsXII to play in the 2016 Hong Kong FA Cup. We only have 9 Premier League clubs and this competition can help them fill a little bit of the void between now and 2017.
I expect they will go into the S.League for a year at least. I can't see this ASEAN Super League taking off really. Singapore want to push it, but I can't see much interest from anywhere else.
Still don't get why they just don't for a Europa League style competition. The best of the rest of Asia (well ASEAN anyway) ... make it more a tournament than a league per se.
Neither can I. Countries like Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia have satisfactory (if not great) crowd figures and popularity in their leagues, why would they want to compromise them? Other countries like Myanmar, Cambodia, Philippines and Laos will find the cost of taking part too expensive for their clubs. Singapore is alone in wanting this thing. I still believe the best solution for Singapore, Brunei, Hong Kong and Macau going forward is to form a joint league together.
Talk of ASL now in 2017 is just a delaying tactic to save face for the government man ASL has been delayed in 2011, 2014, 2015 & 2016 so what 1 more time. But by then FAS president will have step down & the incoming 1 will likely push it out as it was nvr his pet poject so why save it Everytime negative infos come out, FAS always tell us clubs ard the wrld especially japan r looking to sign our players http://www.fourfourtwo.com/sg/news/izwan-looking-maximise-matsumoto-yamaga-stint#:GzG7u2DQQ9gCxA
Shame there are so many obstacles, but I agree with guys abouve posting about Europa League style competition. You have 12 member nations, give one berth each for a best club not taking part in continental cup (ACL, ACC) and make groups (3 groups of 4 teams). Schedule those groups simultaneously with continental cups. After it's finished, include eliminated teams from continental cups' groups in playoff stage. It can be very interesting and very attractive competition, it's actually weird that those nations didn't start joint competition already.
http://www.espnfcasia.com/blog/football-asia/153/post/2739373/lionsxii-journey-ends-sleague-beckons Lionsxii close down This admission (the right move) tell us chance of ASL 2017 is near to impossible & FAS now to forstall another big embrassment next yr
Swiss coach in Cambodia nearly gets killed apparently for exposing the match fixing scandals within his team and the league. Nevertheless after recovering from a coma, he returns to Cambodia despite the risk to his life. http://www.fourfourtwo.com/sg/featu...ian-clubs-phnom-penh-crown-fc#:swa2bygSPFfCHQ