Portugal Coefficient 2015/2016 thread [R]

Discussion in 'Portugal: Clubs' started by CDPontaDelgada, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah at this point a dramatic 2-1 win would be a good outcome, get us some UEFA points on the way out. Brutal draw for SCP and FCP this early on but they didn't exactly show their best stuff either.
     
  2. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Basel still up 1-0 on St. Etienne so the good news is we could have 2 Russian and 2 French teams out tonight along with our two Portuguese teams
     
  3. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Well not all is bad, Although we lost 2 teams tonight both France and Russia lost 2 teams, which means France and Russia only have one representative each (PSG and Zenit) while we still have two (Benfica and Braga)

    That Zenit v Benfica second leg is huge - if they knock out Zenit I would say our chances are good (hopefully Braga gets a good draw)
     
  4. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Braga have nothing in the Liga to play for

    expect a cup run
     
  5. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Between Braga and Benfica (excluding CL bonus points) they need to combine 6 wins and a draw to pass Russia (The Zenit game needs to be an SLB win as well) Meaning they have to go pretty deep.
     
  6. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I expect Braga to go deep its all they have besides the Taça
     
  7. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #82 GoodDead, Feb 25, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2016
    Have you seen the teams left in the EL? The majority are CL regulars.

    Athletic Club Bilbao (ESP)
    Sevilla (ESP)
    Valencia (ESP)
    Villarreal (ESP)
    Liverpool (ENG)
    Manchester United (ENG)
    Tottenham (ENG)
    Dortmund (GER)
    Leverkusen (GER)
    Braga (POR)
    Sparta Praha (CZE)
    Lazio (ITA)
    Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
    Fenerbahçe (TUR)
    Basel (SUI)
    Anderlecht (BEL)

    I would like Sparta Praha, Anderlecht, Basel or Fenerbace but if it's a big team I want Manchester United or Liverpool. Tottenham always has our number so I'd rather not. We usually have Sevillas number except that one year they won their first Uefa Cup.
     
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  8. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Holy crap this is the strongest Europa League R16 I've ever seen, by a wide margin. Not a weak club in the bunch.
     
  9. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bonus points count toward overall UEFA points, so they're not to be discounted but you only get one for the quarters and rounds after (and weirdly, none for winning it all) so they won't make a big difference. The point is taken, though--catching Russia this year is a long shot. The goal, I think, is to close the gap to the extent possible and limit the damage done by yet another year where we end up behind them. At this rate, though, it's likely we'll dip another spot in the overall rankings and end up with five rather than six teams. That may not be all bad, though--our sixth team usually does piss-poor and drags us down anyhow.
     
  10. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Agreed. Wonder how Braga will do against Fenerbahce, it could've been a worse draw but will still be tough.
     
  11. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Braga will beat them
     
  12. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    We have won all 3/3 European competition AWAY games in Turkey vs Sivaspor, Galatassaray and Besiktas. They are not easy but one of the teams I feel we match up well against.
     
  13. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Braga have outscored turkish clubs 12 to 4

    and the only 2 losses were at home when they were already eliminated
     
  14. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn good draw considering the possible options. Some really impressive teams in there, and Man U/Liverpool in the Europa Cup R16 is insane. Braga has good history against Turkish clubs, so I like their chances. But I'm not too convinced by history as a predictor in this context. You need to know things like current form, how the teams match up, etc. Fenerbahce is a good team, second in the Super Lig just behind Besiktas. They've got a couple Portuguese starters, actually, Raul Meireles and Nani, as well as Robin van Persie and some other good players. Not going to be an easy matchup, though winnable.
     
  15. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Benfica have just tied and got the precious away goal 5 minutes from the end and are heading through to the quarters. Big win for them and for portugal in the points ranking
     
  16. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm a little more cautious before the final whistle but things are looking good--Zenit needs two to win due to the away goal Benfica just scored. Quarters are likely.
     
  17. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Talisca with a late late goal to seal the win and qualification.

    That's it, Benfica are through and Zenit is out, so no more Russian teams in Europe. Now we gotta see how PSG fare against Chelsea, if Chelsea can knock them out no more French teams either.
     
  18. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Holy crap! Extra time goal from Talisca in the 95th min! Benfica beat Zenit in St Petersburg after going down a solo, 2-1!
     
  19. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Great result!

    Now just hope Braga gets through too :):thumbsup:;)
     
  20. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Benfica scores a great win from the perspective of UEFA points. The win nets two points, plus a bonus point for getting to the quarters of the UCL. That moves Portugal to 9.833 on the season, a bump of .5 net UEFA points. And beating Zenit means denying Russia any more points and eliminating their last team in Europe. They are still well ahead of us at this stage--11.5 points to our 9.833. To beat that total, we'd need Braga and Benfica to total 11 more points in Europe. So even if both Braga and Benfica won both legs of their next round games, that would still not be enough. But as I've said before, this is a relative contest over time, and every gain counts in the longer-term. So making inroads versus Russia now is important even if they end up with more points on this season.

    On a better note, we are now only about a half-point behind France on the season. If PSG loses and Braga and Benfica get some decent results, we can pass them. So let's hope Chelsea routs PSG and that Benfica gets a favorable draw in the UCL next round (Wolfsburg, perhaps?).
     
  21. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  22. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    1-1 HT, but if PSG score Chelsea have to score 5 (5-2, win by 3 goals).
     
  23. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    You mean if PSG scores Chelsea would have to score 3 more to win 5-4 on Aggregate.
     
  24. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I hope Braga wipe the floor with Fenerbache

    Ghost Turkish fans are super cocky for such a s*** League
     
  25. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Sorry brain freeze :sleep:
     

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