We were lucky that they didn't score more in the first half. We scored on the only real chance we had. This is an Argentina side without Messi and Aguero. Um ponto foi lucro. Dunga wasn't right to pick Lucas Lima. He simply corrected his error of not choosing him when most people wanted him over Oscar.
I can't help but think if Messi was fit we would of got spanked because how unorganized the defense. Was it me or did every single cross looked dangerous.
1x1 FT, I'll gladly take the point, thank you very much. We improved a lot in the second half, but still not up to what we would expect. The goal was a Godsend, it totally disrupted Argentina's rhythmn, they really felt the pressure of needing the 3 points desperately afterwards. The good William: Our best offensive player today, by far. Dribbled really well, tried to make some plays, was tireless when dropping back. Excellent. Lucas Lima: Usually did the right move when he got the ball, yet I feel he could've participated more often. Our only option for a good transition to attack, other than trying our luck with a long ball. Scored a MUCH appreciated goal with a great volley. Douglas Costa: His presence was felt when he entered the pitch. Didn't havemany touches, but every time he got the ball, he caused trouble. The Bad Neymar: Was mostly anonymous, other than one or two dribbles. We needed him badly, but he didn't deliver. Renato Augusto: The only time he managed to find a teammate was a backwards pass to David Luiz. Did everything wrong otherwise. Ricardo Oliveira: Totally nullified. Not entirely his fault though, our midfield couldn't feed him with a single decent pass. The Ugly Elias: Was absolutely inexistent, both offensively (okay he shot once. A bad shot, tho.) and defensively. When he is on the pitch, we play with 10. David Luiz: Defenders are supposed to bring safety to the teammates. DL instead lost the ball several times when trying to rush from the back, giving the ball away in very dangerous positions; could've done better in Argentina's goal, I feel he could've cut that pass if he threw himself towards the ball; was foolishly sent off in the end, after ANOTHER failed rush. A liability. Filipe Luis: If this game continued for 10 hours, he still wouldn't manage to find Di Maria. Was throughly destroyed by him. Did nothing to support the offense, either.
Perhaps, but that's history. As for Dunga, we are bashing him not unlike we did 7 and 8 years ago, but for at least one more game, his choices did not lead to defeat. Hopefully with tonight, he will select Thiago Silva - that's if he's the manager in 2016.
Gerardo Martino ordered his team to put 2-3 men at a time on Neymar. Tonight, it worked. Not much to add to your post other than you must be proud that a Santos player earned Brazil 1 point in hostile territory.
Terrible performance by Brazil. Tactically disorganized, goofy defense, poor goal-keeping, Neymar not getting the ball, no strategy designed to highlight Neymar's talent. A rather mediocre Argentina team playing at home without Messi and Aguero should have scored some four goals in first half, and their poor finishing is what saved us, plus our luck in scoring in our only opportunity. The good part is that we were playing on the road and we ended the third round with 4 points while Argentina has 2, but this is not looking good in the long run. This is the most dangerous qualifiers we've ever faced, with Chile, Colombia, and Ecuador being big threats, and a complete Argentina with Messi and Aguero of course becoming another threat, not to forget Uruguay with Suárez. At this point I'm joining the "Out with Dunga" camp because the tactical disorganization is the worst point of this Seleção. While we don't have a brilliant roster as we used to have in the past, it's a roster that is good enough to qualify comfortably for Russia 2018, but if it keeps being poorly managed, then it is conceivable that for the first time in history we wouldn't qualify. Can you guys imagine, World Cup finals without Brazil??? Fora Dunga!
What else is new? David Luiz has always been like this, and has always been a liability (such as, running wildly to the offense, leaving huge gaps behind him).
Vs Peru I'd try something like this: -----------------------Jefferson --Daniel Alves--Miranda---A well positioned traffic cone- Filipe Luis ---------------------------Luis Gustavo -----William--------------Lucas Lima---------------Douglas Costa ---------------------RO-------------------Neymar
Your assessment of Brazil's performance isn't inaccurate, but your pessimism is not warranted. There are 15 games left with 8 home games left. If we win every remaining home game, that's 24 points; add that to the 4 points we have, and we get 28. Of the 7 away games we have remaining, it is realistic to say we will win 2. So that gives us 6 points, for a total of 34 points. 34 points is more than enough to get us to the World Cup even if we lose a number of away games. Granted, this is turning out to be a very competitive qualifying tournament, and if we tie (or worse, lose) against Peru, it'll be very bad. But after watching us suffer for 2002, manage OK for 2006, and cruise towards 2010, I have noticed that we who are Brazilians tend to get too critical and are too quick to demand changes and to complain when at times a cooler head is the better option. This is not a stellar beginning, but we are at 5th place. A win against Peru coupled with various combinations of other results, and we will finish 2015 secure in the top 4. None of this means Dunga is beyond criticism or that there will absolutely be NO circumstances warranting his dismissal. But even if Tite replaces him following the Peru game, it's not as if we will become the Brazil of 1970 overnight. Tite will need time as well.
Well said. It's just frustrating how we always manage to have a mediocre coach at the head of the Seleção. Can't we hire a world class coach? Now, I'm not sure that with this roster and this management, we'll win all 8 home games. Even though we'd be at home, do you think it will be easy to beat Argentina, Colombia, Chile, and Uruguay at home? Sure, it's too early, but so far we've only managed to beat lousy Venezuela.
I thought Alves and Miranda was the best of a bad bunch. Willian improved as the game went on. Costa was a positive sub. David Luiz and Felipe Luiz were bad. How do you you get sent off in a span of 3 minutes and both was all over the place. Worst game I have seen from Luis Gustavo in the NT as well. Elias with his typical poor to mediocre performance just to get rewarded with another 90 min start the next game. Alisson Neymar and RO was anonymous and a good bit of that had to do with the tactics. They got absolutely zero passes in good positions.
I expect to draw some. In the past, it happened against Uruguay, Argentina, and Bolivia. It's not about it being easy. It's never easy. But we can win. Whether we do win is another story. I hope you're wrong, but without major improvement, it might happen.
Alisson needs no explanation. D.Alves is the best RB we have. Anyone who has watch RMadrid know Danilo has been bad. Fabinho is also not ready. We need a replacement for Filipe Luis. His performances for the NT have continued to decline. Marcelo is flaky and I'm not one to judge a player's commitment to the Selecao but I don't even think he was injured this week. I'm a RM fan and didn't see anything to suggest he got hurt against Sevilla. Is Wendell ready? David Luiz also needs absolutely no explanation. Just unreliable and should be phased out or at best used as a backup for 2018. I never noticed how bad Miranda's passing skills until tonight. Turns out he has none. Elias must have Dunga's nudes. There is no explanation as to why he starts. I can't name anything he does well. I'd even take Fernandinho who has been great for Man City. Neymar and Lucas Lima( sans goal) were subpar. RO wasn't fed at all and was another Fred. You can blame the nonexistent midfield for that. At best he should be seen as a 2nd option if the false 9 isn't working. Douglas Costa showed me that he can transfer his Bayern form to NT. I'd like to see Willian-Neymar-Costa with Lima behind them. Kaka should have played instead of RA who was garbage and losing balls left and right smh.
I bet Dunga puts Marquinhos in the back instead of Gil or Gabriel vs Peru!! And Fernandinho in place of Elias
Shit I forgot!! I'm gonna bet the farm that it will be Gil!! And I also see Hulk starting v Peru. I felt that Dunga was giving Alisson his basptism of fire to get him ready for Rio'16, but remembered he will be 24 when it rolls around and an extra overage spot wouldn't be wasted on him.
Didn't the FBI at least scare CBF? You know guys like Elias, David Luiz, Renato Augusto gets preferential treat because something fishy is going on in the back ground.
I don't know. Seems like they played better without them. Di Maria is so dangerous when he is on. Feels like he is shackled with Messi and Aguero are on the pitch. Surprised they played so well. Maybe we were just that bad. Didn't think Lucas Lima played that good to be honest. He actually lost the ball cheaply in the Argentinian goal creating the counter. Nobody commented on that. Then David Luiz was caught out of position ball watching (not the only time) and Alves didn't anticipate Lavezzi's movement. Can't blame Alves that much. He was left hung out to dry. At least he made up for it with a great cross for the goal. DL stupidly got a red card thinking he was Kaka' of 2007. Hopefully he gets the 3 game suspension. Yeah. Not a bad result, but a bad performance overall. Dunga has a lot of work to do.
I agree with your second paragraph. DL is mainly to blame for the goal. It was a tough ask for Alves to anticipate Lavezzi. Lima wasn't great, but he was far from the worst on the pitch and certainly much better than Oscar was in the previous two games.
You guys are overrating Di Maria. He has some nice runs on the flank, but had no finish product. His crosses were either off or sailed miles over the stadium and when push came to shave, Felipe Luis contained him a bit.