2012/15 Takashi Inui @ Eintracht Frankfurt (GER/EL)

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  1. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Subbed off at halftime, simply not good enough again.
     
  2. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    I don`t think so. Sure it was not his best game but I hate, I really hate the handling with Inui. So much trouble/ critic arround him and every game you have to be scared that you getting subbed out when you are playing bad. Inui needs 4-5 games in a row with 90 minutes, no matter if he playes sometimes bad.

    And today I have to say, he never gets the ball,never never never. Most of the attacks are going over Hasebes/Aigners side, so it`s hard for him to do something. And like every game he has 2 genius passes/flanks. His flank was almost an assist. I don`t know a player who nearly assist every game or create such great chances (often his teammates are ruined it).

    I think 1-2 genius passes which creating big chances are enough for one half time,then it`s okay to be a little passiv even you never get`s the ball. Most coaches don`t know how to handle Inui. Maybe other players are seen on 90 minutes more action,less passive play but I don`t know much players with so much passes/flanks who creates big chances like Inui

    Same like last week in the cup game..he was playing very passive (hole team was bad either) and then he made this good pass to assist the 2:0 (even it was offside) and with that he saved his team to have a quite rest playing day. Pure class and after that he was subbed out....every time a bash in his face.
    Don`t get me wrong I don`t say he plays like a beast or there are no better players then him but ...he has a own playing style...sometime amazing,sometimes very lazy but EVERY TIME per 90 minutes 2-4 genius passes and that is something others don`t have in his team. After my opinion you have to gave Inui confidence, let him play 4-5 games for at least 70-90 minutes, no matter how he playes, he delivers something countable.
     
  3. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    All due respect, even if he scored 7 own goals in a game, you'd still be praising his accuracy.
     
  4. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    ^^ no naturaly not but it`s not like Inui is bad as hell when he is subbed out....surely when you are to bad you deserved to be subbed out but I watch almost every game from Frankfurt and I think in worst case he is invisible but doesn`t make something bad + his 2-3 genius passes. That´s enough I think
     
  5. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Yeah, that was extremely classy by him! And he´s only 22, surely an exciting name imho.
     
  6. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Even if he scored 7 goals, you would say that he is not good enough.

    And all due respect is actually one of the most disrespectful phrases you can use;)
     
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  7. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Yep, he had a very nice cross early on in the game too, and were very active until Wolfsburg scored the 1st goal.

    He´s never been a player that can keep it up for 90 full minutes ( well, maybe in J2 he managed to do it but..), and his position is the by far most subbed-out position in pretty much ANY team. So no surprise that he is often one of the first players to leave the pitch.

    And that he is a regular starter on one of the teams that scores the most goals in the entire league and play the most attractive football certainly means that he is "good enough"! He´s a joy to watch, simply put.
     
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  8. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    I call what I see. I liked Inui in Japan and in Bochum. Then he hit a wall. I don't blame him, I don't project my expectations on him, but he's one of the unreliable players that populate our NT (amongst Kagawa, Kiyotake, sometimes Hosogai, Yamaguchi etc).
     
  9. datschge

    datschge Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    Germany
    Kicker is reporting that Eintracht is interested in getting Großkreutz in case they manage to offload Inui to Spain...
     
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  10. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
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  11. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    I would be pleased if he managed to move to La Liga. If he is successful, it can assist Japanese players by proving that they can make it in La Liga.
     
  12. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    In case some didn't notice, Inui wasn't on the bench today. The reason is that the Spain rumor seems to have had some truth as he should move to spanish Eibar.
     
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  13. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Kicker says today that the move is almost done. Inui ask the club today if he can move and thei decided to let him go.

    Kinda sad,i like him very much and was hoping for a move in the Bundesliga,maybe Hannover or something but I wish him the best in Spain,could fits him ^^.
     
  14. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    I thought it was Espanyol instead of Eibar. Anyway, i hope this comes through, it should be exciting to see a JNT player in the La Liga?
     
  15. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I think the Espanyol rumor was from "fichajes" which isn't a too reliable site. It's Eibar.
    I am indeed looking forward to see another player test himself in La Liga, hope for him the best.
     
  16. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Well good luck in an even better league...
     
  17. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    No way La Liga is better then Bundesliga, only league who can compare is Premiere League. In La Liga there are only the first 4-5 teams who are on a good level the rest is way lower. It is not for nothing that in pre season every year the german clubs from second league almost win every game against the La Liga teams like Granada,Getafe etc. even it is a friendly. La Liga is more technical so it can fits Inui but Bundesliga in complete package is way more balanced then the spain league with no question.

    La Liga is almost Barcelona,Real Madrid,Atheltico and maybe Valencia/Sevilla
     
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  18. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Liga is absolutely no better than Buli, but maybe is more suitable to Inui.
    Plus, we have to break another curse: "Japanese players can't do well in Liga"
     
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  19. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Yes @ Whispered =)! Nice written.
     
  20. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    The skill level is much higher across the board in Spain but you have to watch to realize it. Monaco would have torn a team like Bayer Leverkusen, yet look how they got beaten by Valencia. The top is better in Liga, the middle is better as well, maybe the lower level isn't because it's cash strapped but in terms of refinement and skill, the Liga is far above.

    And don't tell me "it's only Barcelona/Real blabla", in that case it's only Bayern Munich in Germany.
     
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  21. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    La Liga is way lower,doent matter what you or me think. Every expert say that in TV or when the leagues are compare together. Germany and England are Nr.1 no question. Skill level is maybe higher but overall the bundesliga is way higher no doubt.

    You get it wrong Saku. Spain is only Barcelona,Real Madrid and so on ...not in compare to the league title but in compare to the hole league. Teams like Mainz,Frankfurt,Hoffenheim and so on would be absolutely cracks in Spain League. I mean sure in Germany Bayern,Dortmund,Wolfsburg,Gladbach and Leverkusen are similar to Barcelona,Real Madrid,Atheltica,Sevilla, Valencia but the other teams in Spain are "nothing" (only in compare) ...In Germany the other teams ware very strong and would beaten spain teams easily like in pre season when like I said before every team from the second league in germany easily beat the spain teams 3-1,2-0 or somehing. Every year. Even the best teams of the second german league are better then mid and low table teams of spain. The first 3-4 teams like Kaiserslautern,Karlsruhe,Braunschweig etc. from there would hold the league in spain.
     
  22. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Just because the players aren't famous doesn't mean they are nothing, Spain doesn't need to import foreign players as much since the local foray is already so good.

    Oh man, you're going hard.
     
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  23. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I'm not so sure it has to do with the local foray being "already so good", it's more cultural. La Liga is also way more restrictive than Bundesliga rules-wise so it's really not the best comparison.
    Germany is actually the one who one the last world cup if I recall, so there's hardly a problem of locals players...

    Skill wise, I personally see no gap whatsoever, so it's more about adapting to the new team. If Inui asked for a transfer, he probably needed new motivations.
    Let's see if he's going to give his 100%.
     
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  24. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Spain have more above average players than Germany. "Cultures" are malleable and this one benefits from the circumstances. I watch a lot of Liga games and the games might not be as crazy as they are in Germany, the skill level is much better. If Inui succeeds there, in an environnment where virtually all the guys are better at his best strength, he'll have become a great player. I hope so !
     
  25. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Eh, we'll have to agree to disagree.
    For example, in the latest years I seem to recall all the 4 teams from Germany making out of the group in CL, while the 4th spanish one usually doesn't do much (apart from that crazy money Malaga some years ago)
    Spanish teams often have great runs in Europa League instead, that's also true. Overall, I haven't seen any evidence of better skills. I know Spain is unfortunately famous for their use of magic waters but I don't know how widespread it really might be

    unrelated, I was also always surprised by Granada's ability to survive since Udinese sends their rejects there every year lol. I don't really know the team though, maybe they have good defenders\other players.
     

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