Julian Green (Bayern Munich): In-N-Out: Julian Green on loan at Hamburger SV

Could be they wanna get Bayern II bumped up to the 3. Bundesliga?

 

Or could it be that Guardiola just doesn't have the same kind of faith in Bayern's youth system that he had in Barcelona's?

 

His faith in the Barcelona youth system is massively overstated anyways. Don't think he brought any one up apart from Busquets.

 

Eh Jeffren, Bojan, Pedro, Thiago, Cuenca all got that start under Guardiola's tenure. Bartra, Muniesa, and Sergi Roberto made their debuts as well, but didn't feature very much.

 

Guardiola is under huge pressure to win the CL title this season. If not, he's almost as gone. In the last two years it fired badly back to win Buli so early that the first team was out of rhythm. This season is just not the season to bring such youth players up. Especially not with plenty of grown-up pros around insisting on getting their playing time.

 

This thread belongs in the YA Academy section @bungadiri

 

An interesting news article that didn't mentioned Julian Green, but it discussed about a potential "dangerous" path for young players, whom they want to play in the first team for any big football club like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich (the football club he's currently in).


Why The World's Best Clubs May Be The Worst Place For The Best Young Players [August 19, 2015 @ 3:45PM EDT]
http://screamer.deadspin.com/why-th...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow


The excerpt (The first three paragraphs):

In soccer, perhaps more than in any other major sport, the potential for greatness can be recognized from a very young age. Not every wunderkind goes on to become a superstar but most every superstar bore the expectations of future excellence from as far back as their early teen years.

A player on the track to stardom, then, has plenty of time to dream about his career trajectory. Maybe he hopes to star for his hometown club at a precociously young age, then to move on to something bigger to establish his game at a higher level, before finally reaching the pinnacle of the sport by playing for Real Madrid. Maybe he expects to so impress the soccer world at his first club that he can jump straight from there to Bayern Munich. Maybe he was able to wow scouts as a teen and has already been brought into Barcelona’s youth setup, where he plans to spend the rest of his career as a local, homegrown legend.

The specific journey may vary, the destination is almost always the same, but what some players lucky enough to see their fantasy become reality fail to realize is that when you get to Bayern or Barça or Madrid can be as important as whether you make it at all.

It continued (The 12th paragraph after the writer presented two case studies on Mateo Kovacic (the 21-year-old Croatian midfielder who just signed with Real Madrid) and Xherdan Shaqiri (he joined Bayern Munich at the age of 20, and now plays for Stoke City) from the 4th paragraph to the 11th paragraph):

It’s always difficult weighing money, prestige, playing time, and career-management as a young starlet trying to make his way in the game. More so than in American sports, the trajectory of a player’s career is in his own hands. And sometimes that entails taking a step backward to take two steps forward.

 

Not by definition of the forum.

 

I really don't get his decision making at this point. He gave it a shot, but at this point he's going to never develop unless he goes elsewhere. Bayern are trying to push him out the "nice way".

Bayern will continuously overload their midfield in the transfer market. They might promote 1 player per year into seeing starting minutes under Pep.

 

Typical American, eschewing the clearly superior promotion/relegation system.

 

Cause you're damn (sport) socialists!

 

We're only 1 of 3 countries in the world that DOESN'T use the metric system, right?

Why is that?

 

Pro/Rel now!!!


(ducks and covers)

 

WHO CARES BRO

This is America, creator of the Burger and home of the best Burgers in the world!

Such as the H+F Burger, Atlanta

 

So the hamburger was NOT created in Hamburg, as we've always been taught in our inferior American school.

 

Money.

 

The news article from the Goal USA website updated Julian Green's situation at Bayern Munich in which Pep Guardiola, Bayern Munich manager, publicly confirmed the move to Bayern Munich II with additional details.

GUARDIOLA: JULIAN GREEN TO REMAIN WITH BAYERN RESERVES [August 21, 2015 @ 11:11AM EDT]
http://m.goal.com/s/en-us/news/66/u...D=HP_BN_1&utm_referrer=http://t.co/PKDrstDyKC

 

August 21, 2015 @ 11:25AM EDT
Check out @FCBjuniorteam's Tweet:

Startelf #FCBAmateure in Schalding-Heining: Lucic - Pohl, Strohmaier, Steinhart - Bösel, Gaudino, Weihrauch - Kurt, Lappe, Pantovic, Green

— FC Bayern Campus (@fcbayerncampus) August 21, 2015

Startelf #FCBAmateure in Schalding-Heining: Lucic - Pohl, Strohmaier, Steinhart - Bösel, Gaudino, Weihrauch - Kurt, Lappe, Pantovic, Green


August 21, 2015 @ 2:01PM EDT
Check out @FCBjuniorteam's Tweet:

Letzter Wechsel der #FCBAmateure: Lucas Scholl kommt für @J_Green37. 1:1 (74.)

— FC Bayern Campus (@fcbayerncampus) August 21, 2015

Letzter Wechsel der #FCBAmateure: Lucas Scholl kommt für @J_Green37. 1:1 (74.)


August 21, 2015 @ 3:34PM EDT
Check out @rodmacneil's Tweet:

Julian Green went 73 min in Bayern Munich II's 2-1 win @Schalding-Heining. He's not mentioned in game summary: http://t.co/kHoqJR9qr1 #USMNT

— Roderick MacNeil (@rodmacneil) August 21, 2015

Julian Green went 73 min in Bayern Munich II's 2-1 win @Schalding-Heining. He's not mentioned in game summary: http://t.co/kHoqJR9qr1 #USMNT


August 21, 2015 @ 8:09PM EDT
Check out @socceroverthere's Tweet:

Julian Green got the start and played 74 minutes in Bayern Munich II's 2-1 win over Schalding-Heining today. pic.twitter.com/Cbbp84cW3N

— Over There (@socceroverthere) August 22, 2015

Julian Green got the start and played 74 minutes in Bayern Munich II's 2-1 win over Schalding-Heining today. http://t.co/Cbbp84cW3N

 

Hopefully Bayern has a cake walk in the league so they can afford to play the youngsters in the spring.

 

Sure, that's really going to happen. I mean, the squad of 18 that's just won the league is going to be disrupted in the run-in to the Champion's League (which Pep is under real "win it or . . ." pressure) to give a few marginal teenagers garbage minutes in garbage games. And some of those games may not be that garbage - the relegation battle, as well as the EL and CL races could be affected.
Run-outs in meaningless games are what pre-season friendlies are for, not the BL 1 schedule.

Even if, for some reason (elimination in the CL being the most likely) Bayern do that, my money is on Gaudino & Kurt getting first dibs on those places because Bayern have already shown that they see them as part of the future , with or without Pep.
If Green doesn't get some of those games, that's the equivalent of the club handing in a written transfer request.

 

FYP

A spoiled, self-indulgent, unambitious chump refuses to get on the pitch at the highest level he's offered. This is August not April 2015, if a loan to BL3 is the highest level you're offered, take it and prove that you're too good for D4 - while you still are.

You're not seriously comparing Donovan to Green are you? Whatever about his BL1 failures, he'd already shown he was a quality player at international level in multiple GC and WC tournaments. Green hasn't even done that in U-21 tournaments.

Second, back then MLS was a vastly inferior league to BL1. It was also, even then, a vastly superior league to Germany's regionalized D4. Donovan played at the highest level available to him.

 

It's going to be the opposite of a cakewalk with Regensburg in the league. Even if they miraculously make it to no.1 they still have to play a promotion playoff.