Premier League Asia Trophy 2015

Discussion in 'Everton' started by Pigs, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Premier League Asia Trophy 2015
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    Look at that marketing. Arsenal of course are represented at the front. Lukaku second representing Everton, and a rather small looking Peter Crouch in third representing Stoke.

    The first game is between Stoke City and Everton on 15th of July, followed by Arsenal v Singapore XI. The losers then play a play-off for third place on the 18th of July, followed by the winners who will play the final on the same day.

    After Everton beat Swindon 4-0 with two totally different teams, it will be very interesting who Martinez picks. I'm actually looking forward to this, and think it's a great idea that we are playing pre-season games against possible two Premiership opposition. Makes total sense.

    Everton FC arrive at Changi Airport,Singapore,ahead of the Barclays Asia Trophy. Roberto Martinez (far left),and the team line-up with the Barclays Asia Trophy.
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  2. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Arsenal players looking confused, obviously p$$d off that Everton were the only team that were wanted to be photographed behind the board. Wilshire arguing that "Arsenal are just as big a club as Everton" but to no avail. They were told to move on....

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  3. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Good to see none British Evertonians have the opportunity to see their team play.

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    A Birthday cake for Martinez....

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  4. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Howard and Martinez talk to media....

     
  5. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Everton obviously thru to the "final", playing the arsebandits on Saturday.

     
  6. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #6 Pigs, Jul 18, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2015
    Final
    Arsenal 3-1 Everton

    What a pile of horse crap. Everton started well, nice passing around the defence and then once Arsenal found out that that was Evertons game plan all along. They decided to go forward and watch Everton defend very badly.

    What is worse is that Martinez plays with four at the back, and two protecting the back. That leaves only 4 players to go foward, but the only one forward is Kone. Who really is a cone.

    Soccer Cone
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    Soccer Kone
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    You can either buy a hundred of them from amazon for $36 us dollars. Everton decided to buy one from Wigan Athletic for $9,000,000.

    Slow, cannot head, cannot pass, cannot shoot straight, positioning is poor, cannot do anything.What is worse is that having said all that. His touch is still better than Lukakus.

    To be fair to him, he had no support. Neither did Lukaku when he came on thanks to Martinez's tactics. But he was still poor.

    And what the fook was Barkley playing at when the Second Half started. Looked like he was trying to take on the entire Arsenal team and failed miserably. The only saving grace was that he scored a great goal.

    But please Martinez, we do not need two/three defensive midfielders playing in one game. And we need some defenders! Our squad consists of 1 right back, 2 centrebacks, 3 leftbacks, 1 striker, and 45 midfielders. Kone is not a striker, we'd have more success putting Robles up there. Putting Hibbert at CB shows you that we need defenders.

    I cannot see Everton finishing higher than 10th next season. Which is not a bad thing. If you spend like a mid table team, then that is realistically your target. It's time for the pauper Kenwright who has not invested a single dime into Everton to go.
     
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  7. sicurrie

    sicurrie Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    You mean apart from the 65m spent by Martinez in 2 seasons?
     
  8. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm talking about 'investment'. Kenwright hasn't invested anything into Everton. The money 'spent' by Everton managers in the past have all been from player sales.

    Yes, we bought Lukaku, but we sold fellaini for the same money. Last season was the first season in four years that Everton actually spent more than they sold.

    Since 1992, taking into account player sales to spending. Crystal Palace have spent more than Everton. So have 10 other clubs. Evertons spending has been similar to West Brom and Stoke. However that is taking into account before Kenwright.

    After Kenwright 14 other clubs have spent more than Everton, Evertons 'investment' in players has been similar to Norwich City.

    Since 2003, Everton have purchased 196m worth of talent, but sold 163m. That means we're basically sold to buy every single player except Lukaku. At at time when Premiership clubs are making a killing thru television rights sales.

    That is an investment of 2.5m a year. Compare that to Sunderland 8.3m and Aston Villa 8.2m a year. Who actually made LESS money than Everton in terms of gates/sponsors/ etc in that time.

    Pathetic.
     
  9. sicurrie

    sicurrie Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    This always annoys me. How many shares do you own then? Bill is majority shareholder therefore he has invested a considerable sum in the club. 99.9% of clubs have to balance the books (sell to buy) so again this is nonsense. Whether it came from the milk man, Bills back pocket or re investment from player sales, the board have give Martinez over 2 years. Which is a decent sum in anyone's books. Fact is, that it's been largely wasted on average rubbish who have devalued the squad and not enhanced it
     
  10. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It probably always annoys you since you cannot grasp the situation.

    How many shares do I own? none. I cannot afford too. Neither could Bill Kenwright who bought the majority, supposedly remortgaged his house and absolutely had not one penny to port forward to the manager to spend on players. Any REAL Evertonian would know that, that was a stupid thing to do.

    Normally when new chairman take over a club, they at least have some money left over themselves so the squad can have investment.

    Instead what we have witnessed since the late 90s is the demise of a great club. I agree that the rot started when Mike Walker was brought into the club, but money was being invested into players back then. The only thing that was badly managed was bringing in a crap manager.

    99.9% of the Premier League DO NOT sell players to buy to balance the books. Infact 0% do. Smaller clubs in lower division do.

    Since 2003, this is the net spending of clubs.....

    Manchester City 590 (million)
    Chelsea 567
    Man Utd 385
    Liverpool 276
    Sunderland 108
    Aston Villa 106
    Arsenal 90
    West Ham 89
    Stoke 78
    Totttenham 74
    West Brom 44
    Newcastle 39
    Crystal Palace 39
    Leicester 38
    Everton 32
    Norwich City 31


    What annoys me is fans like yourself who get annoyed with basic logic. Thanks to that, we have a club that since 1992 has rotted. Before the Premier League began, Everton had won more league titles than Man Utd and had the same size stadium. Had won more games in the top flight division than any other club. Fast foward to today and we have clubs like Stoke who have twice as much investment from their chairman into bringing in players.

    Everton are the 19th biggest club in Europe considering turnover. Yet 15th in the Premier League for spending on players.

    Barry, Lukaku, Robles, McCarthy, Deulofeu, Besic are not mediocre.

    Alcaraz was free, and ....yeah I agree that Kone was shit. But it's not like Moyes didn't spend 11m on Bilyedinov. (after he sold one of our players for 12m no doubt)
     
  11. sicurrie

    sicurrie Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    You start badly and you get gradually worse.

    "Neither could Bill, WHO BOUGHT THE MAJORITY". Contradicting yourself, he owns the majority shareholding therefore he has INVESTED in the club. No ambiguity there, that is FACT.
    Moving onto your actual point which you tried to use the above to back it up but just failed with a lie and contradiction. Yes would be nice if Bill had mega millions to spend on players, he doesn't, move on and stop crying. What he does do is reinvest what money we do make.
    The only clubs who don't sell to buy (majority of buys) are Chelsea, United and City. Liverpool has sold about 200m worth of talent (Suarez 75-80m and Sterling 50m alone in 2 seasons). Yes the owners have put an extra cherry on top of these sales but don't delude yourself into thinking they would have spent that money without the huge sales first to balance up.
    Dont try and tell me about history of our club lad, I went to Rotterdam in '85 along with every final in the 80s.
    Stoke are owned by a betting firm, of course they are going to have more money than us yet they are still sh*t.
    Barry - was finished last summer and shouldn't have been signed permanent. He was absolutely awful last season
    Luka - Decent but overpriced and only scored 10 league goals. He is also lazy and needs to work on his first touch
    Robles - Makes me want Howard in goal, and he is average so what does that make Joel?
    Mac - Good at what he does, but he is an extremely limited player
    Geri - Got skills, just hasn't got a brain. Jury very much out on him, we need to see if he has grown up and become aware he has team mates ( Sevilla manager reckons not)
    Basic - haha. He offers nothing and can't even get in the team ahead of a poor Barry. Was signed on back of 45mins in WC. Will be gone next summer after again sitting on the bench for most of season

    Moyes would have loved 65m to spend in 2 yes, Martinez is an absolute joke of a manager.
     
  12. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You start terrible and you gradually became a disaster. :p

    Lol, We can all do that mate.

    What lie, and what contradiction? Or is that just another one of your "you start badly and....." statements.

    Moving on to my actual point.......I'm saying Bill Kenwright bought the club with not a penny to spend on players. That is a FACT. Which you seem to be pretty happy with, in fact you'd just rather argue about the definition of investment.

    Everton have been hamstrung in the transfer market since Bill Kenwright took over. We're been completely skint. We are spending like a midtable club. That means like my point above, we spend like a midtable team, then we are going to end up like a midtable team.

    And yes you are correct, Bill does not have millions to spend on players, in fact he has nothing. I totally agree. Why should I move on and stop crying? I am an Evertonian just like you. My opinion is that Bill Kenwright should have never bought Everton. If he was a real Evertonian he never would. Your happy with that, fine, let us continue to become a Sheffield Wednesday.

    Liverpool sold Suarez and Sterling not because they wanted to 'balance the books' because them players wanted to leave to the two richest clubs on the planet. That is a totally different point entirely.

    Since 2003 Liverpool have invested 700m on players and sold 400m. Looks like the one deluding themselves is you.

    Sunderland have invested 250m on players and sold 130m.

    Stoke City have invested 115m on players and sold 37m

    We have invested 196m and sold 163m

    You are perfectly fine with this.




    You went to all the finals in the 80s and yet you are happy with the present situation? What happened? When did you start to accept mediocrity?

    Stoke have more ambitious chairman and more money. And they finished 9th last season and 7 points ahead of Everton. We are the ones falling behind them, if that makes them shit, then what does that make us? The only thing holding them back is their name, their failed bid with Shaqiri for example.


    Barry had some crap games, but he was not finished last summer. And I saw him against Hearts a few days ago and he looked perfectly fine. Last season he had 86% tackle and passing accuracy, his states were the most impressive of all the Everton central midfielders.

    Lukaku, we bought him for a lot of money but we could easily sell him for the same price. He is only 21 years old. His first touch needs to improve, but he is a fantastic finisher. If we did not have him, then we would be fooked. The failure to get the best out of him in my opinion is our tactics of leaving him upfront with no support. Our all time top scorer in Europe (how pathetic is that) with 7 goals, still scored over 20 goals last season, still only young.

    Robles, young again, will naturally make mistakes. But kept clean sheets last season when Howard was out. So I don't know how the hell you think Howard was better. People moaned that Howard was put back into the side after Robles played well.

    Mac might be limited in your opinion, but we bought him for 14m and Tottenham have been after him for 20m. But we will not sell. Great player with great engine.

    Deulofeu, we got a bargain considering the potential that the boy has.

    Besic. You might have attended games in the 80's but looks like you don't do anymore. His stats show that when he played, his passes were more accurate than any of our midfielders. He works hard. He's also young. And most Evertonians were pissed off with martinez for not playing him more.


    Moyes made some terrible signings when he actually payed decent money beattie, andy johnson, yakubu (good for 1 year), bilyelednov and some defender that only played for us once that we got for 5m. But he served Everton well for getting blood out of stone. Luckily for him and Kenwright is that he could pick a bargain.

    The jury is still out on Martinez in my opinion. I'm waiting to see how he starts the season. But his signings have been pretty decent IMO. His tactics, not so much. I think the 433 formation he played against Hearts is the way to go and not the 4.2.3.1 crap.
     
  13. sicurrie

    sicurrie Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    Your contradiction is that you say he hasn't invested but then say he holds majority shareholding. Major contradiction there, you don't get majority shareholding without investing.
    We havent had major money to spend since the 80s so its nothing new. Completely skint? Broke the clubs transfer record 3 or 4 times, spent 65m in 2 seasons. This doesn't sound completely or even remotely skint to me. So what exactly is your weird definition of skint lad? Its not the same as the rest of the world.
    Comparing us to Sheff Wed! Wtf is this weird rubbish, it not worth commenting further on as its complete b/s.
    We havent sold a single player who doesn't wanna leave, last player we sold for the need of money was the fat mercenary manc Rooney. I didn't say Liverpool sold because they had to, I said they only spent the money they have recently on the back of the sales. That is a FACT, feel free to come back with a unrelated answer again if you wish but that's Fact.
    So we have INVESTED 196m? Am confused you have told me the last few posts that the board haven't invested anything, so which is it? Take your time to gather your thoughts, you seem to get confused easily.
    Who said am happy? Would I like more money to spend...yes. Do I think the board are the devil incarnate like you? No I don't. Manager is holding us back not the board, if you spend 65m in 24mths then I don't expect the team to fail to reach 50pts so the board should do something about this and sack Martinez. Stoke are and always will be a nothing club, quite embarrassing they bid for Shaqiri, it was never happening.
    You are the only fan who doesn't think Barry is finished,
    Robles is a joke, surely you are not serious? He makes Howard look world class. Spurs have a history of buying average midfielders for OTT prices so your point is invalid,
    Mac is ok but he is nothing special and a sad indictment of today's prices.
    Most Everton fans are clueless, highlighted by the praise such an average, sh*t player like Besic gets. The guy offers nothing, there is a reason he was playing in the 'hotbed' of football..the Hungarian League!
    Luka and Mac are only ones considered a success of Martinez signings. All others are a failure and in 2 seasons has took us from top 6 to mid table mediocrity, the squad skill level has decreased considerably and he hasn't got a plan A never mind a plan B
     
  14. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Anyone who buys a club automatically invests. We know this.

    I do not think Bill Kenwright is the devil incarnate. I think he's an actor that couldn't get his mug on TV anymore so decided to buy one of the biggest clubs in English football with money he could not afford and watch it continue to fade into mediocrity. Which it will continue to do so unless Martinez pulls a rabbit out of the hat like Moyes did.

    We spent more money on players compared to other clubs between the 80s and Kenwright becoming in charge, so don't give me that crap that we haven't had money to spend since the 80s.

    I don't think you do yourself any favours by calling most Everton fans 'clueless'. Which tells me that you know your opinion falls into the minority of Everton fans. No surprise that your opinion is the minority, the last couple of posts is enough reason.

    You don't seem to understand that Everton are 15th in the Premier League when it comes to net spending since 2003. That means 14 other clubs have found money for transfers from other resources other than player sales, other clubs that were in the Championship. Clubs like West Ham who invested 206m on players and sold 117m. That is how pathetic Evertons spending has been.

    We only managed to spend 196m because we SOLD 163m worth of talent. How can you not get thru your skull?

    There is really no point in me continuing since you cannot grasp logic. I'll only be repeating myself while the majority of other Evertonians would understand it very easily.
     
  15. sicurrie

    sicurrie Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    Haha you are hilarious.
    Glad to see you have stopped the 'Bill hasn't invested nonsense'. But the next bit is even funnier, an ex actor who just wants his face on the TV. Wtf, he is a blue through and through and bought the club from a d*ckhead who just wanted his plaything and got burnt being in the big league.
    Does Bill have mega money? Nope he doesn't, but he does give what he can to the club along with blood, sweat and tears. I didn't see any other blue stepping up to the plate to buy out the club so how about showing a bit of gratitude.
    We don't need to spend millions like Stoke do, they are coming from a position much further back so have to spend more to get level with likes of us.
    What don't you get lad? 99% of clubs sell to buy. Are you that stupid to realise it or just want to continue this pathetic nonsense.
    Broke our club record 4 times, spent 28m on one player (not many clubs do that), have one of the most talented squads in the league. But the board don't do nothing? Do me a favour go support a netball team as football isn't for you
     
  16. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    What are you? Bill Kenwrights nephew or someone who has some bizarre sexual fantasy with BK or maybe both? Either that or you are as thick as pigshit and there is no help for you. So why I am I bothering?

    Bill is an entertainer first. 99% of those that know the name Bill Kenwright know him because he is the chairman of Everton Football Club. He is most famous for being the chairman. That is the main reason he bought Everton and the main reason he has not sold.

    1.) Why should I show gratitude to someone who bought the club but could not afford too? It was a bad decision on his part since it hamstrung us for as long as he is our chairman. We have been hamstrung in the transfer market since 1999.
    2.)

    Pathetic nonsense? Unfortunately for you, you really are thick lad. If 99% of clubs sold to buy, then the following list would consist of clubs with ZERO net spending since 2003.........

    average net spending since 03/04 - 13/14 per season on transfers

    01 - Manchester City (45m)
    02 - Chelsea (42m)
    03 - Manchester Utd (30m)
    04 - Liverpool (21m)
    05 - Aston Villa (9m)
    06 - Sunderland (8.3m)
    07 - QPR (7.2m)
    08 - Arsenal (7m)
    09 - West Ham (7m)
    10 - Stoke City (6m)
    11 - Tottenham (6m)
    12 - Hull City (5m)
    13 - Fulham (4.2m)
    14 - West Brom (4m)
    15 - Newcastle (3.6m)
    16 - Crystal Palace (3m)
    17 - Norwich City (3m)
    18 - Leicester City (3m)
    19 - Charlton (3m)
    20 - Everton (2.5m)
    21 - Bolton (2.1m)

    Oh look, it doesn't say zero net spending since 2003, since 99.9% of clubs, especially in the Premiership do not sell to buy. What it does show however is that Everton have spent on average 2.5 million on players within that period per season. Which is closer to the levels of Championship Bolton Wanderers than it is to even newly promoted Norwich friggin City.

    The pathetic nonsense is coming from you and your keyboard. In fact you should stop now after reading the above list. Because the lesson I'm giving you is a harsh one.

    No doubt you will completely ignore it, because you don't understand it and simply cannot grasp simple concepts and maybe you will come up with some lame reply like "you're hilarious"

    4.) You say Kenwright broke our club record 4x in 16 years. Wow. The last 16 years is the richest Premiership clubs have ever been and we have broke the record 4x? Pathetic.
    5.) Yes, we bought Lukaku for 28m from the money we gained from selling Fellaini for 28m. We also sold Lescott for 22m and Rooney for 26m. Name me two other players that we bought for 22m and 26m?Don't bother, you can't.
    6.) Since Bill Kenwright took over, there have been 16 seasons. In those seasons, Everton have spent more on players than sales in only 8 of those seasons.


    Take those rose tinted glasses off with Kenwrights name on them and get an education........lad.
     
  17. sicurrie

    sicurrie Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    You have got to be a member of the clown brigade known as boo union as you talk nonsense like them.
    I am sorry to hear you are an ill informed cave man. 99% would only know Bill is chairman of Everton? Wtf! He has produced one of the longest running theatre shows for decades. He is an extremely well know theatre producer which is why he has friends like Phillip Green, piss all to do with him being chairman of a football club you Neanderthal. As for that's the only reason he bought Everton to become famous.....haha haha haha haha haha haha!!!

    1) Am guessing your a monkey? Or you just don't read what you write. Bill couldn't afford to buy us.....errr who owns the majority shareholding then? Seems to me that someone like that actually could afford to buy us. If you would rather have Johnson who was a kopite and sold likes of Ferguson behind the managers back then no you shouldn't show Bill gratitude

    2) Was that list to help you or me?
    You notice the 4 at the top are the only ones in net double figures. The sh*te having been bought out twice recently by 2 large yank firms. The rest are all basically sell to buy like us.
    4) so it's not a good thing he broke the record 4 times? You sure you are a blue lad?
    5) no what we did with the other 2 was strengthen the squad instead of spunking it on one kid with a dreadful 1st touch
    6) So 50% of his seasons he has invested? Coming a long way up from No Investment you were saying a few post back

    Jog on lad, you have been owned
     
  18. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sorry, let me just copy and paste from same post........ haha haha haha haha haha haha!!!

    "owned" eh, Did you learn that word last week? After all you went to all the Cup finals in the 80's. "owned" doesn't seem a term used in your generation.

    But anyway, now I know you must be a troll, because nobody is that deluded.

    I know perfectly well who Bill Kenwright is. But ask anyone outside of Liverpool who Bill Kenwright is, the average person wouldn't know who the hell he is and the ones that do would say "chairman of Everton Football Club". The average person couldn't give a sh1t about theatre. Sorry.

    I knew you wouldn't get the table I posted above. The fact that it shows our net spending is lower than Charlton Athletic would send alarm bells ringing to any Evertonian who can read English and have some maths education.

    We are 2oth in net spending within that period. LOWER THAN CHAMPIONSHIP CLUBS.....Oh, I'm repeating myself, it just isn't sinking into your brain is it. The fact that you ask "is that table helping you or me"....... come on lad.....what are you smoking? How thick can one be?

    If we didn't spend Money on Lukaku then we would be something like 30th in net spending.

    How can I explain this to an idiot that just doesn't get it?

    The board of Charlton Athletic has put more money from other sources other than player sales into transfers for Charlton Athletic than Bill Kenwright has for Everton Football Club.

    What a fool you are! (I'll just be nice and pretend your a troll)
     
  19. sicurrie

    sicurrie Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    Haha haha your replies get funnier every time.

    I can't use the word 'owned' because its a new thing and am too old? Lol
    Once again you are clueless, maybe the average football fan wouldn't know what Bill does but I have found most football fans are thick as pigsh*t (you being a perfect example), anyone with half a brain and enjoy a modicum of culture will have heard of Kenwright and his many theatre productions. Not my fault you are stupid.
    No I got the table perfectly well thanks, you thought it would show Everton up as only spending 2.5m net as some example that the board don't spend. What it shows to me and you haven't got the good sense to realise is sensible business strategy, not over spending on what we haven't got. You will notice only 4, yes 4 have reached double figures, 3 are mega mega rich clubs and that lot across the park have had major injections of money twice plus 2 mega sales that generated money.
    You are clueless and definitely member of the clown club
     
  20. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Trying to save face with that reply just doesn't cut it. Calling evertonians clueless, then calling most football fans thick as pigshit. Looks like your one of them fans who disagree with everyone because you simply do not know how wrong and stupid YOU actually are. That is the funny thing, apart from that your replies bore me.
     
  21. sicurrie

    sicurrie Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    Haha you have been owned well and truly
     
  22. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    How exactly have I been "owned" 80's boy? It's obvious you don't know the meaning of that word, not because it's not part of your generation but because you're using it incorrectly.

    v. owned, 0wned, pwned, 0wn3d, pwn3d, own3d.
    v. tr.
    To be made a fool of; To make a fool of; To confound or prove wrong; embarrasing someone: Being embarrased.



    That word refers to you. It's quite obvious but because you're so thick/deluded that you can't see it.
     
  23. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    bit harsh
     
  24. sicurrie

    sicurrie Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    But true...Shaqiri bit unfortunately isnt
     
  25. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Don't sweat it man, we all get things wrong time from time. I accept your apology. :)
     

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