You can't blame him for that. He called up the same team expecting to build off o fit. He brought back Pappa to bring the same intensity and play from the UNCAF and he hasn't done sh*t. No sort of intensity, and nothing of what he was at the UNCAF. Fish is OBVIOUSLY old and slow but we have no one else. Dude....FIGUEROA being called up??? SAD.
Like I said most the fault lies on the players but he's guilty of taking people that are past it.......also a dennis nunca jug de stopper con el ..solo libero y carrilero......y ahorita desordeno con los cambios......he's playing 3 at the back and none of them are comfortable with the ball.....this team is dependent on Moyo and people complain he misses too much which is true but he's the only one that creates
He made the changes we all expected and called for. It was the same line up as the Mexico game. Except for Contreras. And he expected them to play just as hard, he's had the same intensity as he did the in the first 2 games. If the team pisses the game away you cant blame the coach. That's the team pissing themselves.
I disagree with you....against a superior mexico we had to defend therefore dennis as wingback made sense...this game we had to attack a team at a similar level therefore a more attacking wingback was needed...horses for courses
I don't know why the argument is about Sopengo. When are we going to realize that the one constant over so many years of just absolutely terrible football in Guatemala is the player pool. Player development? Academies? Youth team successes? From top to bottom Guatemalan football is a joke, and to lay the blame at the foot of Sopengo is nuts. The practically SAME team went 3-1 last year at UNCAF. Clearly we overestimated that performance because all of Central America flamed out of this tournament except for Costa Rica, and even then they look so poor relative to the World Cup run. Pappa played poorly, Ruiz shouldn't even be playing, our midfield can't string together more then 3 passes STILL, and we get out hustled by practically EVERYONE. Just an absolutely joke of a federation with no urgency, no willingness to worry about the long haul, and no determination no finally take Guatemala off of the list of countries that have never qualified for a World Cup
To me brian jimenez should resigned and sopegno as well because he has lost a lot credibility not only with the press but with the players. ........many of theses should never be called up again. ....on the bright side the young players like mejia de leon aparicio mo and Enoc will learn
Yes we don't have the players that's completely true but this team did not longer have an identity. ........for example u 17 under memin fracaso but they knew their roles.....the last u20 knew their limitations so they decided to be more defensive and counterattack.....I guess what I'm saying is we look like we didn't have a plan.....It could've been a bad plan but we didn't have that either
Gotta put it away, there's not much else to it. We knew the problems we had in offense. Defending all game against Mexico paid off, but when we had to go out and win the game, we couldn't. I honestly did not like the substitutions either, but the coach can't do anything more. Fish should have buried it at least once, Aparicio took a couple of shots and was absent from the rest of the game, Pappa didn't create a single imbalance. Mejía had a fantastic game, he created that chance that Fish blew, and was the one who gave Cuba the most trouble. The Cubans were smarter, more prepared, way more disciplined. Guatemala is now 1-3-6 in the last 10 matches vs. CONCACAF teams, with 3 goals for and 14 goals against. It is also the first time we lose consecutive official matches against Caribbean teams since 1989 (1990 WCQ).
See what gets me the most is that the players look confused since bermuda........no habian coberturas. ...nada mecanizado etc.....even el 0t de almeida tenia plan.....press high up the pitch or bunker against superior teams and centros a la olla against a team at a similar level that us
I find it incredibly difficult to buy this we didn't have an identity argument. Trinidad & Tobago blitzed us for 3 goals in the first 25 minutes, so any plan or identity goes out the window there. Against Mexico, the plan/identity was to bunker down and defend for 90+ minutes, and we were able to do it well with Moises Hernandez having a great game anchoring the back line. Then against Cuba, I don't think it was a lack of identity, it was a lack of ABILITY. We couldn't put the ball in the back of the net, Cuba looked more flowing and cohesive than we did, and Cuba buried a great chance when we simply failed to do so over and over again. For me this identity argument comes in when you're a program that is good enough to have an identity, when you are good enough to impose your identity on others because you can -- we aren't that, we've never been that, and it doesn't look like we will be that moving forward. Brazil can dictate the game the way they want, Germany can dictate play, Spain can control possession, Argentina will blitz like crazy. We don't have the skill or ability to find an identity, stick to it, and execute it out until the end, unless that identity is to bunker down and play 11 men in our defensive 3rd, which we did for the near entirety of half #2 against Mexico
Que desastre. You know what we need? Players with the attitude of Hristo Stoichkov. The way he was breaking down our attack was the reason why he was great and our players are not. No one wants the ball and wants to make plays. We should have come out the gate like rabid dogs. 5 man defense? What for? Anyway I am happy for Cuba. Guys on that team had the will to succeed and with all they been through they deserve some reward for their labor. I like Sopengo and hope he keeps his job. He needs more time. I didn't see bad football from Guate, I just didn't see good football.
DING. DING. DING. We as a team, are simply not good enough. We have a couple of bright spots in Mejia, Cincotta, and Pappa. But put together, we are just not very good. Simple as that. I know people hurt to admit this but it is true. Until we get 6-8 players of atleast the caliber of Mejia (of course parallel to their position) we aren't going to progress. We have a lot of mediocre players putting in a mediocre effort.
I'm still including the bermuda games...habia mucho pelotazo.....maybe identity is too grand of a word....I'm talking about a plan ....no se ve trabajo. ..los dos contenciones se movi an en linea....si uno su be Otro baja......sure our players really disappointed big time but u can't tell me that sopegno instructed them to play on the floor when u have nacho in the lineup
See we produce good attacking midfielders....cincotta mejia ordoñez ceballos....why don't we play to in a way to get the best of them..............and true most of our players are scared of responsibility. ...don't have the balls Romero pessarossi and even pando had
I can get behind this, sure. Execution of the game plan, we don't do it. And when we do, it's when the game plan doesn't actually involve anything offensive, like the Mexico game. The Bermuda home & home is a perfect example, in addition to Cuba. Clearly the plan/expectation is to go out and score goals, but we go scoreless at home against Bermuda, we go scoreless against Cuba, and we score 1 goal in 3 games overall during the Gold Cup.
See this is what confuses me ...sopegno has said many times that we don't have strong or fast players yet siempre vamos al choque en pelotazos where we will fail again and again...o queremos ganar Segunda linea sin ser rapidos. ......that's what gets me the most ....when he started in comunicaciones he knew this....he would play with two wingers Arreola and ordoñez. ..two forwards one tall and strong and one short and fast. ..so even when we launched long balls we had 3 fast players that could win the 2nd ball and create something. .....here we have fish who due to age is slow , mejia is playing wingback so he's too far, Dennis is playing too far and even if he was close he wouldn't know what to do with the ball...so the only fast player is Pappa but he's been instructed to play deep.......so is not the long ball that I'm hating on is the fact it seems this plan hasn't been well thought out
Because that's what we lack, confidence. Sopegno said it clearly in that video you posted (i'm pretty sure it was you). The team lacks confidence. The T&T game at the half, guys went in heads down. Came out heads down same style of play then all of a sudden a couple chances creates some confidence. Goal! Boost of confidence and its a whole different team. Mexico, 0-0 at the half, confidence coming out at the 2nd half. Game ends heads up smiling job well done. Cuba can't really move the ball like we want, trying to touch some confidence but then pelotazo, pelotazo at the half head down come back out, more pelotazo, more pelotazo mid can't do anything Pappa has his hands on his hips team doesnt know what to do. Every time it's confidence. We lost to Cuba a game everyone said we were gonna win, no doubt about it. Now the players have to respond, and now they're expected to win how do you come out and win a game that hasn't been played with all that pressure on you when you've only scored one goal in 180 minutes? We not only need 6-8 players who are good at their spots, but we need them to have confidence. To put that team on their back and show them how to keep their heads up and keep fighting. We have one guy with confidence and he's passed his prime. The other guy got off a plane put a shirt on and tried to play around with the ball and be fancy. If you have a team with players who push their team mates to we good players, you have a good team. If you dont you get a team who will faill and be walked over everytime.
You know the answer is that the Caribbean teams are faster and more physical, and that's why all CA teams had failed. For the WCQ we need to bring the young guns, Henry Lopez, Rodrigo Saravia, Galindo, Jonathan Top, I mean Sopegno or who ever will have to bring young players
Yes confidence is what we lack but not only confidence in themselves but in what they're instructed to do.....it seems like most of our players are filled with self doubt but players like pappa seem like he hasnt bought into what sopegno wants to do........and yes I posted the video of sopegno talking about we lacking confidence in playing it on the floor.....but if you put players who have never been comfortable with ball and asking to do it of course they won't be confident because they know they simply can't do it.........and if he decided we were gonna play long to nacho since that's the only thing we are confident doing then surround nacho with fast players like mejia kendell and cincotta for the second ball.....it's like he was caught between two minds and couldn't decide
True....but we're making it easy by playing to their strengths. ...........I think that the salvador coach has it right...he knows his players are not fast tall or strong so he always keeps a lock block and have attacking midfielders pressing the center backs to make it difficult to launch long balls....and when they have it they try to play one twos between them