Juan Carlos Osorio news & Comments

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  1. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  2. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    @pepinointer @dapip matemonos discutiendo del man aca porque hablar en el thread de Nacional me da asquito
     
  3. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    que le vaya bien ....pero técnico de selección un tipo que elige pésimos refuerzos , jugadores mediocres , pisco es que no necesiten .....que rechazó a dorlan pabon en su momento por que no le parecía suficientemente bueno .....no tiene buen ojo para ser un seleccionador
     
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  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    En Mexico le puede ir mejor que en Brasil. No le creo mucho al rumor de Sao Paolo pero pues si se da bueno por el. A mi me parece un tipo decente y trabajador pero es un tecnico del monton al que le cuesta trabajo mantener un rendimiento constante en sus equipos y que no tiene ojo para los refuerzos.
     
  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ya en. México Dirigió al Puebla y no le fue bien

    Parece que lo de sao Paulo en serio , se supone que el presidente ayer estuvo en Medellín
     
  6. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    ya le tengo sobrenombre..
    "el Kumis" Osorio

    El presidente del São Paulo, Carlos Miguel Aidar, afirmó que el entrenador colombiano Juan Carlos Osorio, principal candidato para asumir la dirección técnica del club brasileño, tiene un mejor currículo académico que el español Josep Guardiola, del Bayern Múnich, informó hoy la prensa local.
    "Ni Guardiola tiene el currículo de Osorio. (El colombiano) es uno de los técnicos más respetados del mundo académico del fútbol", comentó en declaraciones publicadas por el diario Folha de São Paulo el directivo, quien estuvo esta semana en Medellín para adelantar las negociaciones con el entrenador del Atlético Nacional.

    http://www.eltiempo.com/deportes/fu...a-de-juan-carlos-osorio-como-tecnico/15802555

    Suerte al Kumis alla en Brazil
     
  7. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If he goes to Brazil and has success, that would be quite the accomplishment. A high % of foreign coaches flop in Brazil for a multitude of reasons. Seriously, the most successful foreign coach in recent years has probably been Aguirre, who's currently at Inter, and he was on the brink of getting fired earlier this year. But also, on the other hand, we haven't had many TOP foreign coaches come to Brazil. Brazilian teams have been linked several times to top South American managers like Bielsa and Sampaoli, but those deals never go through.
     
  8. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Mmm honestly i imagine that the relation between Osorio and torcida will be difficult, their players take time to adapt to the style of play that he wants and also take time to become attractive........2-4 months of adapatation should be enough..........i dont know if in brazil will have this patience from a foreigner


    but surely if sao paulo have apteince with him at the beggini results will arrive then
     
  9. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #9 Mengão86, May 22, 2015
    Last edited: May 22, 2015
    2-4 months will be difficult, especially if the results don't come. Sao Paulo has a good team on paper and they will have high expectations. The football culture in Brazil just simply doesn't allow time for a coach to adapt and work, whether he is Brazilian or foreign. It's the sad truth. If we truly want to be a top league, that has to change. We need more foreign coaches coming to Brazil and finding success. Brazilian teams recycle through the same set of coaches for the most part. We need need new blood to bring in new ideas and force change.

    Anyways, I didn't mean to hijack the discussion. If Osorio comes, I will be cheering for his success, despite not having any sympathy towards Sao Paulo.
     
  10. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Im really curious to see how Osorio is going to do in Brazil; right now Osorio is being heavily criticized in Colombia, despite his past success

    I think that applies to many leagues (we have that exact same problem)

    and you are not hijacking the discussion, posters from different countries are always welcome to our forums :thumbsup:, there are a few posters from different countries that comment in our forums.
     
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  11. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
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    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    How many foreign coaches are currently in Colombia? We usually have no more than 2 at a time, and those are rare occasions.
     
  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Colombia National Team: Pekerman

    Millonarios: Ricardo Lunari (Arg)
    Santa fe : Gustavo Costas (arg
    Aguilas: Quintabani (Arg

    Thats all

    The cucuta coach was argentinian and was fired
     
  13. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    and even Quintabani is considered a "recycled coach" who jump from Colombian team to Colombian team.
    Comesana and Zurdo Lopez despite being Argentinean and Uruguayan has coached Atletico Junior many times (about 5 different times each one lol) .

    But now that I think about it, I think Millonarios has a tendency of bringing new coaches with new ideas.

    there was Lillo (Spain), Richad Paez (Venezuela) Martin Lassarte (Uruguay) and now Lunari
     
  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    and Osorio....that was in manchester city when millos called him
     
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  15. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    and never coached a Colombian Club before, or that I can recall... so yeah he is more "foreigner" than Quintabani :ROFLMAO: for example
     
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  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    igual que vanemerak no se le puede decir extranjero
     
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  17. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Y los extranjeros del junior :D
     
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  18. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    la regla deberia ser:
    8 jugadores minimo salidos de las inferiores del Junior tienen que estar en el campo en todo momento
     
  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Scary that you found a way to combine "New", "Ideas", Lillo and Lasarte in the same paragraph...

    Add Osorio to that list. His first job as a Head Coach (not assistant) was at Millos, after his tour in England (as Assistant Coach).

    The results have been mixed and our last title (first after 25 years) came under a Colombian coach.
     
  20. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    But with a team that was build with paez since 2010
     
  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Fair enough. But IIRC after having nice showings and advancing to cuadrangulares twice, didn't the team implode forcing Paez out?
     
  22. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    mejia And macnelly Would arrive with him
     
  23. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Lol by new ideas you know I mean new coaches that has never coached in our league
     
  24. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    La verdad lasarte fue un desastre , pero por lo demostrado en otras ligas como la chilena y la española posteriormente si era justo darle mas tiempo

    Lo de lillo el tipo lo saco serpa con la prensa , acabo la primera temporada clasificando a millonarios a libertadores por reclasificación, tuvo una racha larguísima de invicto y fue el único que le gano a nacional en época Osorio ..no le trajeron refuerzos y le desarmaron lo poco que tenía

    Eso si el que llega a millonarios para la prensa es malo hasta que demuestre lo contrario ....hasta. A Pekerman ya lo hubieran hecho cajón y estaría echado

    Al pocho insua líder de asistencias de la liga como con 6 goles ( rarísimo en un enganche de acá ) todavía lo tratan como el peor refuerzo del torneo


    El mismo Osorio lo dijo cuando se fue al Chicago fire , que adentro y en el entorno de millonarios hay manos oscuras que no quieren que el equipo salga campeón
     
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  25. pipevasquez

    pipevasquez Member+

    Sep 8, 2007
    Bogotá City
    Aisar presidente de Sao Paulo “Descartamos a Luxemburgo, Sabella, Sampaoli y Villas-Boas. Queremos y esperamos tener a Juan Carlos Osorio"

    Osea descartaron a todo el mundo y quedo el man
     

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