Chile vs Irán y Brasil (Amistosos) [R]

Discussion in 'Chile: Selecciones Nacionales' started by MetroChile, Mar 5, 2015.

  1. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    #126 Yañez, Mar 29, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2015
    Terminó el partido. Creo que se pueden sacar buenas conclusiones, la más importante de todas es que Albornoz es muchisimo mejor Jara en cualquiér posición. La defensa, aparte de la desconcentración en el gol, estuvo perfecta. En la altura casi no sufrimos. Por lo menos en defensa, este es el camino.

    Aranguiz un crack, junto con Alexis unos de los mejores, está más que claro que pronto se irá a Europa y a un grande. Matias bien, Alexis siempre bien, Tucu invisible.


    El árbitro debió haber expulsado a Miranda y hasta Fernandinho que pegó como loco. Hasta en el foro brasileiro se ríen de la cuea que tuvo en no ser amonestado.
     
  2. chewie4917

    chewie4917 Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    I just finished watching the game (vs. Brazil). The team obviously presses consistently; it is very high-energy. With that said, it is not sufficient if and when the players leave so much open spaces in the middle. This is where direct teams play directly and win games. Dunga knows how to beat Chile. The guy is living proof that Brazil can be 'ugly' and win (he hasn't forgotten 1994).

    As I've said in the past, Chile's best game last year was the one against Brazil. That game showed that the team can play efficient, measured football when it counts. It was also a significant moment because it demonstrated that all teams need to have a switch. In other words, you can't aim to win all the games the same way.

    The other point worth making is that if Samp plays Aránguiz and Vidal, his third player in the middle needs to be a '6', defensive midfielder or whatever you want to call it. The team was exposed a lot in that area today.
     
  3. chewie4917

    chewie4917 Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    Albornoz was definitely a good find. I thought that Jara was all right today.

    On Miranda and Fernandinho, I also agree. A few of the Brazilian guys go in hard like Dunga back in his day. Also, Miranda knows that if he had not brought down Alexis in the second half, Alexis would have been through.
     
  4. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    -Speaking of red cards, Medel could have definitely got one.

    -Tucu Hernandez isn't better than Matias Fernandez and should only remain an option on the bench.
     
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  5. posteador

    posteador Member+

    Dec 29, 2006
    Lincoln, UK
    Didn't see the match, but I'm glad that the defence looked a bit solid than usual. You guys think Miiko will be a starter in Copa America?
     
  6. chewie4917

    chewie4917 Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    I think that Miiko starting comes down to one thing: the form of the central defenders (Jara, Medel & Roco, if he is nominated). It appears as though Samp likes the idea of Miiko in a backline of three. To be fair, I thought that he did all right against Brazil.

    Ideally, I'd still rather see a backline of four, regardless of where (and how often) Miiko plays.
     
  7. SIN DIOS NI LEY

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    El Pelao como que tiene buenas ideas pero no terminar de elegir los nombres adecuados.

    Millar y PP Hernández nada que hacer en una selección. Quizá el argentino cuando falten los que están por sobre él.

    Todos elogian a Medel, empero, hoy el gol fue en gran parte error de él por su lentitud, así como ha pasado en otros partidos que la altura ha sido causa de un gol o una mala salida.

    En resumidas cuentas, mal sabor de boca porque no se originan ocasiones de anotar, la posesión es ésteril, no se le cae una idea a la selección y Sánchez juega para Alexis FC con mucha cachaña sin sentido a 50 metros de la portería rival.
     
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  8. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    anybody have a link to the match stats. I would like to see the numbers. I think Brazil scored on their only shot on goal. It also looked as if Brazil may have fouled more than the Netherlands did against Chile, if that is physically possible.
     
  9. Iranfootie

    Iranfootie Member

    Dec 20, 2006
    I do want to say that TM's second goal was a goal of perfection. I have very rarely seen such a beautiful goal by Iran.
    In 10 seconds it went from Haghighi to Ando's head to Guci to Shojai to Guci to Amiri and goal!

    Start at 316.

     
  10. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    El partido con Irán no lo vi. Después caché que Sampaoli usó apenas 3 titulares en el 1er tiempo. Así que la derrota no me sorprende, considerando la formación experimental que usó.

    Respecto al partido de hoy, no me gustó el mediocampo (Millar, Aránguiz, Vidal y el argentino Hernández).

    Pero sí me gustó mucho el trabajo de Albornoz sobre todo, además de Medel, Isla y Jara en menor medida. Bien Bravo. Sánchez poco en el 1er tiempo y mucho mejor en el 2° tiempo, pero lamentablemente Sampaoli lo dejó solo arriba, y él no está para jugar así, sino para asistir a un delantero goleador.

    Muy preocupante la falta de llegadas claras al arco.
     
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  11. SIN DIOS NI LEY

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    #136 SIN DIOS NI LEY, Mar 29, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2015
    3 starters or zero, Chile has no point in losing to Iran. I'm a football junkie and I'm unable to name you two Iranian players.
     
  12. Ezto

    Ezto Member

    Jun 27, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    The team played well overall. Lets not forget that Brazil is a formidable rival. I would like to see more shots on target. Of the ones that played today, id like to see Hernandez and millar dropped. We should do fine in the copa america, but I doubt we have a champion squad.
     
  13. Zandi360

    Zandi360 Member+

    Dec 10, 2013
    Club:
    Sepahan
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    #138 Zandi360, Mar 29, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2015
    Whether you think there is a point or not, they did lose, and 2-0 as well. Iran was missing 3 starters while Chile was very close to their full team in the 2nd half.

    And the fact that you can't name 2 players from Iran doesn't matter. If you were a "football junkie" you would be able to do so:
    Dejagah won the Bundesliga with Wolfsburg and played 2 years in the EPL, Nekounam played 6 years in La Liga, Haghighi plays in the Portuguese league, Teymourian played 3 years in the EPL, Shojaei played 4 years in La Liga etc...

    We were missing Jahanbakhsh who was elected 2nd best talent in the Eredivisie last years after Memphis Depay, and Sardar Azmoun (top 20 most expensive U20 striker in the world http://www.transfermarkt.de/spieler...id=14&altersklasse=u20&land_id=0&yt0=Anzeigen) from the Russian league.

    Hopefully we pull more wins like against top teams so that people start giving more respect in the future. Next stop, Sweden and Zlatan in 2 days.
     
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  14. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Clearly you are not...for someone who boasts about being so knowledgeable.

    As I always tell you when I correct you: "dime de que presumes y te diré de que careces".
     
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  15. SIN DIOS NI LEY

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    #140 SIN DIOS NI LEY, Mar 29, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2015
    Ya wn, son todos súper conocidos. Y si lo fueran da lo mismo, es para mirarlos en menos y que dejen de joder estos iranies que ya me tienen las bolas al plato con su trolleo.

    Los únicos conocidos es Nekounam pq suena como Neculmán y Tomotyan, algo así, porque suena como Timoteo.

    Matter of fact is, no Iranian player would make the cut in the national team of Chile. So, it doesn't matter if Chile played with the B squad, they are still better players than their Iranian counterparts.
     
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  16. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    http://www.cooperativa.cl/noticias/...elo-de-la-gira-europea/2015-03-29/130026.html

    Estadísticas

    Brasil (1): Jefferson; Danilo, Thiago Silva, Miranda, Marcelo (75' Filipe Luis); Souza (60' Roberto Firmino), Fernandinho, Douglas Costa (63' Willian), Phillipe Coutinho (60' Robinho); Luiz Adriano (60' Elías) y Neymar. DT: Dunga.

    Chile (0): Claudio Bravo; Gary Medel, Gonzalo Jara, Miiko Albornoz; Mauricio Isla, Charles Aránguiz, Rodrigo Millar (74' Matías Fernández), Eugenio Mena (82' Mark González), Arturo Vidal (80' Arturo Vidal); Alexis Sánchez y Pedro Pablo Hernández. DT: Jorge Sampaoli.

    Goles: 1-0: 72' Firmino (BRA).

    Tarjetas amarillas: Thiago Silva, Miranda, Elías y Fernandinho (BRA); Albornoz y González (CHI).

    Expulsados: No hubo.

    Arbitro: Martin Atkinson (ING)

    Estadio: Emirates de Londres.
     
  17. Zandi360

    Zandi360 Member+

    Dec 10, 2013
    Club:
    Sepahan
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Tu mismo le dijiste, no puedes llamar 2 jugadores iranies. En lugar de burlarte de los nombres de los jugadores, te invito a informarte sobre el equipo de iran.

    nuestro trolleo? El uniquo troll que yo veo es usted ;)
     
  18. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Yet Chile still lost to Iran.

    Let it go, "wn".
     
  19. Ohiginiano

    Ohiginiano Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    El Teniente Stadium
    Club:
    O Higgins Rancagua
    Bueno acabo de terminar de ver el partido vs Brazil ( grabado ya que yo trabajo los domingos)
    Mis conclusiones: NO jugo mal Chile pero claramente nos falto profundidad.
    Hernandez muy voluntarioso pero no cumplio en lo que se le pedia( y no lo defiendo por haber jugado en O"higgins)
    Fernandez debio entrar antes. Sanchez un crack sin duda marca la diferencia pero necesita mas compania.
    ALbornoz muy bien en defensa, un aporte como stopper sobre todo por su estatura, Jara bien tambien igual que MEdel.
    Millar ni lo vi no se si jugo. Sin duda salio perdiendo considerando que era su gran oportunidad al no haber estado Marcelo Diaz . Vidal y Aranguiz bajos para los que se espera de ellos.
    Preocupante la falta de profundidad y por ende la falta de gol.
     
  20. Yañez

    Yañez Member+

    Oct 11, 2005
    Santiago, Llolleo
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    I also think we should not lose to Iran, ever, but the fact is we did and got some conclusions from it. Plus, we have to give props where its due, Iran outplayed us, plain and simple. Hope they do well.

    The conclusion from these 2 games is Miirko winning staring status and Millar has nothing, absolutely nothing to do in the national team. Also, Marcelo Diaz is vital for Chile, whether he plays in a crappy league or now in the Bundesliga.
     
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  21. Zandi360

    Zandi360 Member+

    Dec 10, 2013
    Club:
    Sepahan
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Thank you! But I don't necessarily agree with the bold part. You make it seem like we are Iraq or India that you should beat 6-0. Iran is one of the top teams is Asia, 1st Argentina needed a 90th min goal from Messi to beat us and we were a penalty away from upsetting them . I think we have the potential to beat even better teams if we get the chance to play them.

    Chile shouldn't be losing to Iran, clearly, but "ever"? We are no pushovers and Im pretty sure we showed it.

    Chile should have opened the score first imo, because especially if we score, the Queiroz bunker is hard to break for any team.
     
  22. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    #148 Rickdog, Mar 30, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2015
    The only thing your team showed is that you had a pretty good coach, who knows ho to stand a defensive team on the pitch (with less than 30 % of posession, you can't say otherwise). Now that he will be gone after your next game against Sweden, still got lot of things to prove if your team keeps on getting any results at all.

    Maybe within AFC, where it is full of crap, you guys will still get some results, but outside from it, I doubt it. You will go back to be what you were before his arrival, together with missing 3 out of 4 next WC's (that is what Iran is within AFC). Only then you'll realize, how much you lost with your coach's premature departure.
     
  23. Zandi360

    Zandi360 Member+

    Dec 10, 2013
    Club:
    Sepahan
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Hmmm speculations nothing more, not any more worth than me saying Germany won't make it to Russia 2018 or your prediction of Argentina winning 6-0 against us before the wc.

    Iran before Queiroz wasn't Andorra, we always were consistently top 4 in Asia, at least ranking wise thanks to our consistency. Since 1998 we make at least 1 WC out of 2, and with some great and promising prospects that we have that i just said, Sardar Azmoun (Rubin Kazan), Jahanbakhsh (NEC), Ezzatolahi (Atletico Madrid) and many more, we will definitely have one of the strongest, if not the strongest squad in Asia the next few years.

    But yeah don't worry about us, you sometimes do so way too much ;)
     
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  24. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Miiko (no "r" in between), did not play on Millar's position. Can't compare them both.

    Anyhow, he proved being a worthy defender for the team. He gave our back more solidness and also a good sense of good distribution of the ball, when he had it.
     

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