Argentina vs Germany: Final Match Game Day Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'World Cup 2014 - Knockout Rounds' started by bungadiri, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    What does that say about the organized talented teams that lost to Brazil and didn't make it to the semi-finals.. Must suck being worse than a no-talent no organization team, like the 28 other teams in the tournament.

    :rolleyes:
     
  2. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    not once southamerican came to our forum to congratulate us
    we are great for conmebol and southamerican futbol

    and all we get is hate
    this players are talented, nice, clean
    they play great futbol

    seriously, we at least deserve congratulations, all we get is hate.
    theres no team in southamerica who could have play like we did today
    and, hey, im the one that said JAMES was the best player of the tournament, and the one that said that COLOMBIA should win, the one that said thats been admiring CHILE futbol since forever

    but not even one southamerican can congratulate argentina for all they have acomplished and i find that attitude awful.
     
  3. GBTQ

    GBTQ Member

    Jul 13, 2014
    Thank you Christina, learn something new today.
    Since I'm a new fotball fan, I didn't follow Argentina much in their past tournaments, except the last 2 World Cup. But I support Argentina, anyone just except the Germans, due to so many Germany aggrorant fans back in their country. They always scream their German team is #1 in the world, when Germany NEVER ever beat Italy in any big tournaments, LOL!
    So far in Europe, Germany are very solid team, but they still behind Italy, and Spain.
    Germany is indeed very lucky that Italy and Spain are both out of this World Cup so early, or else it won't be an easy ride for them, as they proven struggles against Ghana and Algeria.

    Yes, love Di Maria! I feel that he can change the game more than Messi. For some reason, I don't feel anything supert about Messi (no offense), but he can really run and keep the ball between his feet the whole time, amazing! If I remember he have like 3 chances to score in the Final, he went way off with his left foot kick.
    If Di Maria was in this Final, definately would help Argentina score a goal somehow with his help.

    And can anyone explain to me why the Argentina current coach Sabella is leaving? He is great! I really think he try his best to get his team to win, it just didn't work out like he plan. I wish he stay. Was there any pressure from the Argentina higher committee side that make him leave?
     
  4. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    No that rule was taken away, now it's only a replica
     
  5. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    I did congratulate you, and I did praise your clean play.
    I do think it's a bit inflated to say you were the best team. Germany might have a bit to say about that.
    Also you need to understand that all the chants about how the Brazilians felt after the loss to Germany and the Maradona is greater than Pele chants did not help with winning any sympathy from Brazilians.
    Mugging Brazilian fans to steal their tickets wasn't very helpful either.
    Vandalizing Brazilian property wasn't cool.
     
  6. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    wtf? some crazy people vandalize stadiums and 40.000.000 of argentinains are to blame?
    when brazil was humillated all my friends were whatsapping me saying they were sad, we were all sad, we said "brazil does not deserve this", i felt bad, all people i know felt bad, i said it here many times

    but i have to get HATE from all of you just cause you are sad your team sucks?
    if my team was the one who sucked and got destroyed like yours, i would have turn to the teams i admire instead of hating on other great team. it makes no sense. stop hating. WE DONT DO THAT. And argentinian players are great people and example and do not deserve this hate.
     
  7. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    i did not say we were the best team! i reckon germany is, now and before, even were germans were all over us sayintg they would destroy us. well, they didnt. everyone underestimated argentina.

    i find it funny that this is full of brazilians that have dissapeared from this forum and they just happened to appear NOW that argentina lost.

    you well know if you think for one second that this match was super tight and we could have won it, that we are a great team, a great 2nd place, hold our hear high, and that come here to "gloat" or whatever you think you are doing, and spread hate, is not something the argetnina team or posters of this forum deserve.

    Respect for Argentina.
     
  8. Lucas Darathy

    Lucas Darathy New Member

    Jun 30, 2014
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think that many people congratulated Argentina on this thread and, well... if they have done it here, why do it again on a different thread? Argentina played well, the team was interesting to watch the whole Cup and they deserved to go to the final. I just don't see the point in going to Argentina's forum just to say this... but then again, I'm new here. Maybe this is something people do around here and I'm just not aware of it. Either way, you should know that many Brazilians were rooting for Argentina, including my mother, my girlfriend and my girlfriend's mother. They just don't post here...
     
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  9. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I was supporting Argentina because or Pekerman, river plate, and I'm cool with a few argetines , and they are South American , but I have seen a lot of other South Americans or other Latinos that rooted against them becAuse they think the argies are "arrogant" and "racist" .
     
  10. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    You want everyone to congratulate you while you tell the you are better than them? Why would they do that?
     
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  11. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Germany was to me clearly the best overall team in this tournament and in the absence of any sides that can claim to be better right now, they would rightfully rank as the #1 team in the world with the trophy they deservedly won. However, despite having a young team, it is an open question mark to me whether they will be able to follow this victory with a European title as well? Certainly, Germany will remain a top 4-5 team over the next few years, but France in 1998, and Spain in 2010, looked more likely to me to dominate the game than Germany does right now. I am not sure why I feel this way, since I am actually quite fond of this German team and find them both exciting and meritorious, but that is how I see it.

    As for Argentina, they did well in the final and, overall, deserved finishing as a finalist in this World Cup. But they never clicked the way one would have expected with the so-called Fabulous 4. In fact, other than Messi, I wasn't impressed with any of the rest. Certainly not Aguero, who made me think that he wasn't even of the quality to start for an average World Cup team much less being counted as one of the Fab 4 for the World Cup runner up side. Even Di Maria, who had impressed in some of the past games I had seen of him before the World Cup, was more okay than great. Higuain was not bad, but wasn't fabulous either. Messi is fabulous, but even Messi wasn't entirely clicking all the time. I have seen better versions of Messi than in this World Cup. On the other hand, Argentina did better on defense and in goal than many had expected. Besides Messi, in fact, Argentina's best players in this tournament were Mascherano and, quite surprisingly, Romero. If Argentina made it to the final, it is a much because of these players as Messi.
     
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  12. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    This is hard for me but I do believe you would be a worthy champion (this final were between the best two teams), as other pointed out this was a specially clean Argentinian team and you do have an amazing football pedigree, an unique style and depth (Brazil lost Neymar and we were out, you lost Di Maria and still gave Germany a run for their money).
    Mascherano had a fantastic (and clean!) tournament.
    You are miles ahead of Brazil in Tactics (your coaches are much more relevant in he global stage than Brazilians one)
    You should be proud of this team, I know some Brazilians that besides the rivalry were rooting for Argentina, so you did have some support from SA (small consolation I know). Olmpics and Copa America 2016 should be interesting tournaments

    You do have to admit that Portenhos do rub people the wrong way... But I believe that all SA respect this Argentine team.
     
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  13. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    take it easy, She is OK obviously hurt she did reply and explain her point, no support form SA etc
     
  14. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    You are right that you didn't say you were the best team. I apologize for misquoting you. You did say you deserved to win.
    I disappeared because I was traveling abroad with limited Internet access and had more and better things to do than coming to BigSoccer. I only returned home today.
    It is not true that we didn't congratulate you. I did.
    I'm spreading no hate here. I did have some fun in the rivalry thread. That's different. It's supposed to be like this, the trash talk.
     
  15. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Yes, I actually like Christina.
    There were Brazilians supporting Argentina. I personally know three of them and I've seen other cases on TV. I tried to support them as well but became progressively turned off by the Barra Bravas.
     
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  16. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    congrats
     
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  17. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes, are new to football. I am sorry you have met arrogant German fans...every one has them. Also, Germany may have not beaten Italy in a competitive match but the numbers do not lie. They currently hold a better record than Italy...and Spain. And yes, Italy won in Germany in 2006. Germany won in 1990...in Italy. I was there.

    Again, apologies you have had to interact with cocky German fans. Like most passionate footballing nations, we have our fair share of stupid fans as well.
     
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  18. GBTQ

    GBTQ Member

    Jul 13, 2014
    And I agree with all the comments about that Germany coach Low. That coach have the selfish looks in his eyes, seem like he willing to win at all cost.
    And I agree, with those head incidents, Germany players were shaky, even have head concussion, and seem like he doesn't care much. Since when do the safety of your players are more important than wining? I would choose my players over wining anytime, as long as I have them, there always be chances in the future to win again.

    I definately would not want a coach like Low.

    And this news headlin, make he sound so aggrorant, hate him.
    Low: I told Gotze to show he is better than Messi
     
  19. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Thank you, thank you so much really

    :cry: this means a lot to me, today is a sad day, i feel bad for the players and for the people.

    I dont know why porteños rub people the wrong way, im not porteña but lived here many years, and once you get to know them, they are the nicest people on earth.
    argentinians love their futbol and like to make all those bantery chants, but, seriously, overall we are no worse than any southamerican and whats really weird is that we do like and respect every other southamrican teams in futbol. Argentinians always seem to like southamericans more than the other way around, maybe is the way some porteños say things that can be missinterpreted


    but, really, thank you for your words
     
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  20. ITALIA1982

    ITALIA1982 Member

    Jun 14, 2005
    Toronto
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Congratulations Germany ! you now join Italy with 4 stars
    Great that you avoided Italy in this WC
     
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  21. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    How is that arrogant? He told him to show that he can be better than Messi and guess what? He did!
     
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  22. VogelsingerKlinsmann

    Jun 22, 2014
    You could have won if Sabella had kept Carlos Tevez. That was Sabella's bad. As close as this game and the Netherlands game was Tevez would have given you more in attack. Tevez has that extra one on one gear in clutch moments that Kun Aguero and Higuain lack. Higuain in particular blew a couple opportunities today.

    The whole win 1-0 defensive strategy I guess that worked to the extent you got to the finals but you could have still had the defensive strategy with Messi and Tevez and had more attack and put the heat on the other teams defense.
     
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  23. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Nobody here gets more hate than Brazilians sorry... our team can win more honors than any other team for the past 20 years we'll still get the, you guys suck and have no talent comments.

    Look then the few argentineas that give all a bad name are to blame, sorry you guys have a bad name in S.America. Arrogance is not a quality, and whenever there's any criticism about Argentineans and their ways it always become.. oh you're jealous of us, get out of here you mono, get out of here you inca etc...

    Look if all South America got together and were to pick a country they didn't want to be part of it anymore, it would be Argentina. Not sure why people don't like you guys? Don't look past the few crazy vandals that were making fun of brazilians in the stadium for the 7 x 1 and then when Germany scores decided to beat up the Brazilians that in turn started to make fun of them...

    Don't look past the ones in Copacabana that started fights after their team got scored and sent everyone running, don't look past the ones stealing tickets, don't look past the ones hiding from the interpol during the match because he was not supposed to leave his country due to stadium violence (yet he kept posting he was at the games), don't look past the ones making monkey noises and calling the Maracana a zoo where they keep all the monkeys..

    Sorry we can't sympathize.. you guys are the Spain of South America (europeans will understand this one)
     
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  24. GBTQ

    GBTQ Member

    Jul 13, 2014
    Cris 09, but Germany never won Italy in any tournaments that you 2 teams come across each others.
    The 1990 World Cup, Italy and Germany didn't cross each others at all. It was Argentina meet with Italy and won by penalty, and advance to meet Germany.
    The 2006 Germany and Italy did meet, and Italy won 2-0 in semi.

    In all Euro Cups, any tournaments that Germany meet with Italy, it is Italy that always won. This is why everyone say Italy is your team kryptonite.

    Sorry, but I refused to believe Germany team is the best, until I see ONE major match tournaments where you guys beaten Italy.
    Forget about international stats, goes with the stats one and one between Italy and Germany fotball rivals.
     
  25. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Germans were extremely classy and sympathetic throughout this World Cup. You guys were great, and deserve the utmost praise not only for your football team but for your behavior in Brazil.
     
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