World Cup 2014 Other Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by ---Z---, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. J.P.

    J.P. Member

    Oct 31, 2012
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Yeah you're right. It's not an opinion, it's fact, right? Smh

    Scolari brought the country together in a way Bento never came close to doing. While yesterday's loss was bad, he completely remade the team into a much better looking side than the one he took over 2 years ago after that disaster of a Copa America.

    I also really want a Brazilian coach. We need a confidence and foreign attitude brought in. As Gooddead said, and he's right, the biggest enemy Portugal has is their own mania. Scolari can change that.
     
  2. nbstriker8

    nbstriker8 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    new beige
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, he underachieved by losing twice to Greece, once in the final. This is common knowledge. Thankfully he now feels as embarrassed as he should have felt in 2004.
     
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  3. Chess_Panther

    Chess_Panther Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Porto, Portugal
    Actually, that is only partly right. The man who evoked patriotic feelings across the nation was Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa when he appealed people to hang their flags at the window. For some reason that was the trigger that instilled an entire nation to leave their clubismo aside and support the nt.

    Scolari was surely stubborn at bringing his own players, but what good is that when he doesn't even bring or field the right ones?

    How many years have we faced stupid choices of placing wrong players in the wrong roles?
    Paulo Ferreira as a LB marking Ballack aka André Almeida playing LB.

    How many times do we have to face the idiotic idea that calling the same players, regardless of their form, is a good thing for the squad?

    And that mania was present in the attitude of some players in the Scolari era. He nurtured their egos, he didn't contained them.

    Of course I question people's intelligence when they say something like that. It doesn't make any sense.
     
  4. J.P.

    J.P. Member

    Oct 31, 2012
    Club:
    FC Porto
    It's not under achieving. They beat Russia, Spain, England, and the Dutch to reach the final.

    It was a great tournament. It ended in one of the saddest days of my young life, but they did not under achieve.
     
  5. Chess_Panther

    Chess_Panther Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Porto, Portugal
    You think that Portugal reaching a final was good enough. I would agree with you if it wasn't against Greece.

    Let that sink in.

    Greece.

    That we lost twice.

    As a host nation.

    That's called underachievement.
     
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  6. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    The Argentina board is hilarious, they are making fun of Brazil so much when they are only now going to play a actual contender team (Holland) in the semi finals.

    Cant believe the audacity.

    they are angry at me over there for pointing that out.
     
  7. doritos93

    doritos93 Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Montreal - Europe
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    This wc has taught us that anything can happen. I'm hearing aguero is back in the lineup
     
  8. dipluso

    dipluso Member+

    Jul 19, 2005
    CT
    Man, I would so LOVE to see Argentina eat crow today. Not to mention it would be delicious to see Brazil and Argentina play ... for 3rd place... eheheh.
     
  9. nbstriker8

    nbstriker8 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    new beige
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reaching the final isn't underachieving. Losing in the final isn't underachieving. Losing in the final to Greece, the same team that beat Portugal a couple weeks prior, using the same exact tactics, is underachieving. It was Greece! A team that had qualified to only one euro previously, way back in 1980. A team that couldn't qualify to the 2002 or 2006 World Cup, the tournaments that sandwiched the euro. A team that had odds of 150-1 to win the tournament.
     
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  10. doritos93

    doritos93 Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Montreal - Europe
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Can anyone explain why kuyt is still on this dutch sqaud
     
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  11. doritos93

    doritos93 Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Montreal - Europe
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Well gratz to Messi and co. The kid deserves it.
     
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  12. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #537 GoodDead, Jul 9, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2014
    Both teams deserve nothing.

    Kuyt was horrible all game the only player on the field who was way worse was Messi.

    Messi is the great joke of this tournament. Gifted easy opponents and is made to look like a scrub by every single defence he has faced save for Nigeria. He did NOTHING all game. At least vs Bosnia, Iran, and a pass vs the Swiss he had a late game play to win and save face for his Dreadful performances but vs Belgium and Netherlands and the vast majority of the other games he has been a total joke.

    Germany deserves a place in the final Argentina deserved to have had a moderately strong group and be eliminated early.
     
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  13. doritos93

    doritos93 Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Montreal - Europe
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I'm considering his career really. Hes a jerk off but he does deserve it
     
  14. nbstriker8

    nbstriker8 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    new beige
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Messi's best game was against Belgium but whatever. Argentina as a whole didn't play good except for Mascherano. It's just that Holland played worst, especially Robben, Van Persie and Sneidjer
     
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  15. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Agreed

    the benefits of Argentina's favourable draw really showed

    Netherlands were out of gas , they had a gruelling tournament.
     
  16. Sumol

    Sumol Member+

    Portugal
    Oct 12, 2011
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    The only upside to the final is that it's not a dream of a match for the Angry White Men.

    Netherlands vs Germany = Angry White Men's galore.
     
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  17. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    lol

    like I said, ppl who said Argentina couldn't defend are moronic. guess cause Garay and Rojo don't play in the EPL lol

    Germany is favs, but it may work against them. everyone will expect them to win especially after their 7-1 mauling of Brazil.

    Argentina look compact, organized and stifling. Messi has not even played his best football yet. If it comes Sunday Germany may be in trouble.
     
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  18. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Sorry he has done nothing for Argentina he deserves nothing.
     
  19. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    he play makes a lot, he still scored 4 goals and has provided some vital assists.
    It hasn't been super mind blowing but he has been good overall.

    Today, as captain he took and scored Argentina's first PK.

    Remember two years ago? Euro 2012 Semi PK Portugal vs Spain?
    Captain Ronaldo did not even shoot.
     
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  20. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    When i say nothing I mean it....play make? Surely you jest. you have to touch the ball, or run into space or create space, or make a probing/advancing pass to "play make"

    Ronaldo was not that good in the semi but WAY more involved then Messi vs Bosnia, Iran, Switzerland, Belgium, and Netherlands.

    He got a second half goal vs Bosnia (where the rest of the time he did NOTHING)that went off a defender, 2 vs Nigeria in a his only good game, a late one vs Iran where he did NOTHING, An assist vs the Swiss (thank you Lichsteiner for falling asleep) in a game where he did NOTHING, He did Nothing vs Belgium and did nothing but the turn the ball over the few times he touched the ball today vs Netherlands.

    Anyone who says Messi is having a decent tournament (never mind good) is doing one of two things:
    1. Not watching any of Argentina's games
    2. Lying.
     
  21. Sumol

    Sumol Member+

    Portugal
    Oct 12, 2011
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Keep working your anus off for Real Madrid, CR7. On Sunday you may receive the ultimate troll and once Barcelona gets Suarez you may never beat them again.
     
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  22. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Barcelona is done. Xavi and Iniesta won't last, Neymar is showing how fragile he is. Suarez will not fit into the system. Tiki taka is all but dead. Atletico and Madrid will fight for top spot.
     
  23. nbstriker8

    nbstriker8 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    new beige
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're letting your hatred blind you. Only James Rodriguez and Mueller has definitely had a better tournament than him. He's done everything offensively for Argentina. And you keep saying he's did shit vs Belgium. Why,because he didn't score? He was great vs them. It's not all about scoring
     
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  24. Sumol

    Sumol Member+

    Portugal
    Oct 12, 2011
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Tiki Taka is an artistic masterpiece and only the naive believe it's dead. People judge Tiki Taka solely based on Spain's world cup performance, let them. Hopefully managers start doing that as well.

    I see Atletico and Barcelona being the top two, i think Real is in severe trouble for next season and CR7 is in for el nightmare.
     
  25. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Goals vs Nigeria, Bosnia and Iran while being stripped every time he touches the ball is doing everything offensively? He's pulled some miracles (for himself) in the group stage but please do not tell me a guy that cannot hold on to a ball and in cases like today cannot touch it is playing well.

    Listen, I understand all you did was watch the highlight packs and listen to whatever the ESPN commentators filled you in on but Messi has been a joke.

    Higuain was doing everything for him today and Perez was also lively and those two got subbed while Messi stayed on and after that there was no more attack from Argentina and they played for penalties. I laughed and thought surely anyone who watches cannot possibly make an excuse for Messi after today....but much like Ronaldo the marks will always be marks.
     

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