World Cup 2014 Round of 16 - Netherlands vs Mexico, 29 June 18:00 CEST

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  1. Ed-D

    Ed-D Member

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    Jun 13, 2005
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    United States
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  2. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I'd rather he keeps Kuijt there. People here have been calling for Kuijt to be tried at LB for the last four years. Van Gaal had the balls to do it, and it's worked so far. At RB he put in a better shift than Janmaat or Verhaegh has. Against Costa Rica we need to go with a 4-3-3, with both Kuijt and Robben on the right side. I think they would torch them.
     
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  3. rob88

    rob88 Member

    Nov 23, 2005
    Mexico city
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  4. DSC05

    DSC05 Moderator
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    Jun 25, 2002
    Detroit, MI
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    You all are doing a decent job, but just a reminder this isn't a World Rivalries thread.
     
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  5. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    And he said that the penalty was a foul
     
  6. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  7. Ed-D

    Ed-D Member

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    NY
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    He didn't step on his toes because if he did then Robben couldn't have launched into the air like that.
     
  8. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Like I said, watch it again, he did catch him. Robben embellished it but any forward would
     
  9. CANADA-AZ

    CANADA-AZ Member

    Feb 3, 2005
    Hamilton-Canada
    The Mex strategy was to not let Van P or Robben get behind them--the Dutch strategy was to get the Mexicans to move up and then pounce on the counter
    The first half was awful but we slowly got better as it went along--then they get one early in the 2nd and decide to play 10 men back ---it actually took a long time to get our first one and we would have got another with or without Robben doing Swan lake
    The Mex were totally out of gas later--their passes even in their own end were listless and players were reacting to where the ball was going instead of making plays

    Going forward LvG has to know that we can play attacking football against these teams and win--no real need for this rope a dope crap----the 1st half will always be close but once they get gassed out---we have far too much talent for Mex or Costa Rico

    Argentina or Belgium will be a different strategy--- but for the next one---run them into the ground by keeping it wide and with all our talent put them away

    Robben was tremendous--I forgive him the dive--as I said we would have got another anyway--

    -we will need a replacement for DeJong and I'd love to see Clasie
     
  10. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
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    Sep 26, 2010
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    I'm not here to irritate anyone. But if you read through that forum, you'll notice that they don't even agree among themselves. One thing they're all pretty certain about is that the double challenge by Marquez/Moreno was a "clear penalty" and if I'm not mistaken, Robben admitted to taking a dive in that one. So much for that one. (To be fair, he might have said it to be the least bit controversial in the interviews).

    If anything, we've learned that the officials just can't keep up anymore.
     
  11. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Robben Launches into the air because he's trying to jump over Marquez like he did the previous Mexican defender who lunged in. But his right foot appears to catch on Marquez' leg while his left foot was being stepped on. Hard to stay on your feet when that happens. He could have done without the dramatic flailing though.
     
  12. StormTrooper

    StormTrooper Member

    Jun 18, 2002
    ATX
    I will just say that it looks so bad for FIFA to put a UEFA ref in this match. Why would they do this? Very difficult to say this was fair. And now robs even the Dutch. Really hope we get a neutral confed ref for the costa rica match.
     
  13. M_Penalosa

    M_Penalosa Member

    May 12, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then show us the freeze frame of Marquez stepping on his toes. You can't.

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  14. Antario2

    Antario2 Member

    Jan 29, 2012
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    AFC Ajax
    Why would a Portuguese referee be biased in any way in this match? Portugal is out of the tournament and hasn't played against either side.
     
  15. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
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    Netherlands
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    not on his toes. But still a trip
     
  16. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Lots of sour grapes from the Mexican fans :ROFLMAO:
     
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  17. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
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    Those guys are neutrals. Only 1 Mexico fan has said that was unfair for Mexico and its funny is he is here discussing with you guys.

    If you visit the Mexico forum you will get different perspective.
     
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  18. vagegast

    vagegast Member

    Sep 25, 2004
    Herndon, VA
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I'm just gonna say that as a Dutch fan who's seen my country lose over and over again.... I'm ready to dive all the way to a World Cup win. DGAF re what the rest of the world thinks, seriously. Result over anything.

    As if any diving will be worse than the criticism that the team received (especially *in* Holland) after what happened in the final four years ago? And guess what, the team showed up to a million of proud fans in Amsterdam.

    Also find it highly ironic of Mexico to complain about anything if you look at some of the behavior of Mexican players and fans in the past dozen years. That being said, Mexico's team played really well and I'm sad to see them out the tournament. Seriously.
     
  19. Mr.S

    Mr.S Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    I think everyone in this forum bar outsiders agree the PK was just and so does most sane people out there.

    Robben admitted to 1 dive in the 1st half which was not the double challenge or the one that got the PK. He said he is ashamed but don't why you are linking it to it. He had 3 Clear PK's
     
  20. Mr.S

    Mr.S Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    Clear as day as a PK. Don't know what you're smoking buddy. Looks honest. Whether he cries, dances, falls, slides is a different story. Marquez tripped him & also stamped 1/4th of his boots and clearly hindered him. Robben making most out of it is a different story. That does not make it any less of a Foul
     
  21. Mr.S

    Mr.S Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    I think the way Mexican coach reacted like complete retard with his comments just shows how sane people are. This guy the coach is making 1 after the other conspiracy theories and blaming FIFA and the whole world and finding 100 excuses to fail and things blasting others absolves him of the blame like his stupid subs.

    Mexican fans are towing that line. They can foul Robben thrice in the box but once when a PK will be given, the bi***ing starts
     
  22. Mr.S

    Mr.S Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    Please don't write Lies to justify BS. Robben clearly said that was a PK but he did dive 1ce in the 1st half which was not the double tackle on him.

    I have heaps of seen US fans in a forum and most of them are continuing their BS CONCAF. Anyways most US fans don't know a lot about football.
     
  23. Ed-D

    Ed-D Member

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    Jun 13, 2005
    NY
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right that's what I was referring to.

    U.S. fans know plenty about football. They don't know as much about soccer, though some of them are quite knowledgable there too.

    As for the "BS CONCAF" the federation (actually called CONCACAF) has as many quarterfinalists as UEFA
     
  24. Ed-D

    Ed-D Member

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    United States
    Jun 13, 2005
    NY
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Marquez barely makes a move toward Robben. He appears to MAYBE brush his toes, which causes Robben to go airborn (and even adjust midflight, like he was hit by an imaginary bullet. Pretty impressive). No way that's a foul.
     
  25. Ed-D

    Ed-D Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 13, 2005
    NY
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The freeze frames don't do it justice. You have to watch the play and you'll see that Robben takes off in a completely different trajectory from where Marquez might have (but didn't IMO) foul him.
     

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