Matchday Thread | GROUP F

No they haven't I watched every single Iran match at this WC and they preformed admirably.

 

Stupid sock puppets and trolls come out in full force when Iran loses and exits the tournament disgraceful.

 

So many Iranian fans have this delusion that "the world praised Iran" and that their game against Argentina was heroic and memorable. If anything I was hoping this result against Bosnia would bring them back to reality. The world praised Iran because Argentina is a traditional powerhouse that reached the World Cup with huge expectations. People love underdogs and almost everyone wanted to see them fail against one of the worst teams in the tournament. Iran didn't bunker because they are strategically oh-so-smart, they did it because they can't score. This became painfully obvious in the other two games were scoring WAS necessary. I don't blame Iran though, sometimes bunkering down is the only viable option against teams that are vastly superior. No problem, do it correctly and you'll surely have one or two chances to take the game, which Iran did. That doesn't mean they deserved to win. Argentina is still the team that went out looking for the victory from the first minute. Iran didn't deserve to win against Argentina, Nigeria or Bosnia.

Ultimately, Iran can take one of two lessons home:

1) They can realize they got a single point in one of the easiest groups of the World Cup. They'll see that they had to bunker down against an Argentina team that was a shadow of itself and that they had to do so because their offense is crap.

or

2) They can leave thinking "We were robbed! We deserved to advance. We were heroic and we had a world power in panic.

One will lead to development. The other is blind national pride that will lead nowhere except to more first round exits, again and again.

 

Nobody is discrediting you, I was trying to have a debate with you. But then you accuse me of lying and call me insults? What's wrong with you? Are you not capable of a normal debate?

I understand English isn't your first language (neither is it mine) so let me give you a little lesson. When I said ' you sometimes make it sound as if Iran...' Then that means that I believe you IMPLY something, not say it LITERALLY. Understand the difference? Think about this again before you accuse strangers of lying.

And once again - you have 1 point and finish bottom and yet you still claim you were better than the others. Just let it go.

 

I have to disagree about the pressure.

There was massive pressure on BiH NT to preform in this match - 5/6 changes to the starting lineup and also 3 changes to substitutes could tell you that Bosnian coach wanted to get everybody to play but BiH was very serious about the outcome of this game.

We are still heartbroken about the robbery. We didn't deserve to be robbed like we were robbed in the Nigeria game.

 

what you said means nothing. bottom line is the world was impressed by Iran against argentina, and they should have been, because Iran put in a very good performance, had the most dangerous chances, and was robbed of at least 1 point due to the ref.

 

i never insulted you. i claimed you lied when you did. dont worry about my english, its amazing and it is better than most people who have it as their first language.

once again, you are lying, as i never said we were better than others. i already let it go. you replied lol. but i wont continue replying to you as you simply resort to lying. you have no argument so you are pretending to see something you did not. this discussion is over.

 

With the current Iranian attitude in this forum, I believe the 2nd option will be applied to their case!

 

nobody said Irans offense is better. but its true that carlos killed all of our attacking in his preparations. he discouraged attacking, made the players feel inferior, told everybody to defend, and left our best attacking midfield players outside the world cup squad in favour of defensive players.

 

Which would mean you had also watched the last match, instead of watching the argentina-nigeria game.
That pretty much stated your allegiance, and your opinion is therefor biased.
In the eyes of unbiased viewers, they were bunkering sht.

 

I can't go back and read all the pages and posts , but I will say this, Nigeria proved to be fortunate , and sometimes that is better than being good. They seemed lackluster in their friendlies and were inconsistent at best in group play.
I watched Bosnia a lot during qualifying. They scored a ton of goals and were impressive. A most impressive feat for a nation that is so small and has produced exceptional talent. However, they didn't go through, Nigeria did. They found a way this time, which is no surprise, seeing as they have become regulars now at this stage.
Again much like in the case of Greece,they did what they had to do and no one really was that surprised. Would we have preferred for civ or Ghana to be the African team to go through, or England , Italy from Europe and in this case Bosnia , I think most would answer yes.......
However, that is the beauty of the World Cup, watching the under dogs try and trip up or at least slowdown the favorites. Watching teams like Iran frustrating Argentina and pushing them to the brink. I don't think anyone from that contingent should be complaining. They finished where everyone thought they would. Instead of being frustrated and offering excuses as to why 80 million and several million abroad doesn't produce talent , start by make a commitment to the game on the domestic side.
At the individual level , here in the states, push your kids to play the game , especially in ny and la , where there are large persian communities. Playing and coaching here and abroad ,I have not seen that commitment........

Now i will go back to feeling bad for bosnia , a class side that just didnt get the luck (much like croatia) and remembering a time , like the 96 euro , when they were unified and pushed Germany to he brink in the final.

 

I think the world was more impressed at how underwhelming Argentina was than at how good Iran was. Just take a look at the titles of the articles in the news talking about the game. Honestly, Iran played a good game considering their limitations, but holy crap, tone it down a bit. National pride is a two edge sword. Iran cannot remember this world cup as the world cup in which they did everything to deserve a ticket to the next round before being robbed, they have to improve a lot if they ever want to make it to the Round of 16. Otherwise they'll keep doing this over and over again. And they won't always have the benefit of a group seed playing way under expectations.

 

So who do you think should've taken his role at this WC?

 

Make that 2
They literally had to beat BiH by 2 goals when the opponent had nothing to play for.

 

why should i tone it down? you were the one who ATTACKED the notion that the world did not praise Iran. i simply refuted it. i never went around saying it. plus, we made argentina look bad. its not that they sucked against us. look what messi did when he got space for 1 second.

 

even tho I love IRAN and Iranians you all deserve criticism you are getting because you guys were talking too much crap

on how BiH was so weak and how you have much better players than Dzeko and all that said not in the nicest words

not all of you were saying those things but those that were not saying it were not condemning it

I sad to see that you are being the recipients of criticism but you guys have done too much provoking.

 

if we were not saying it how could wet condemn it? lol.

 

Lol, I "attacked" the notion that the world did not praise Iran? Well, I sure hope "the notion" can get over it. Debating a point does not equal an attack. As part of the world, I simply disagree with your statement.

Plus it's also not like Argentina was super dominant before and after Iran. Argentina already looked weak in the Bosnia game. So they already looked bad, Iran simply exposed them for a second time.

Anyway, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Trust me, I would have been the happiest one to see Iran advance to play France in the Round of 16.

 

This!

“Treat other people's home as you want them to respect yours because what goes around comes around.”

 

you are clueless than because look at what we did to argentina. nigeria would be a much easier opponent for france. we could have taken you guys to penalties. but you will steamroll over nigeria.

 

Messi is definitely winning the golden boot this World Cup

 

thanks to nigerians defense lol.

 

The world was not impressed by Iran at all. You want to look at a team that impressed the world look at Costa Rica. Iran defended with 10 players their first two games, nothing impressive about that.

Those that claim Iran lost their last game due to pressure please look at the Nigeria game. By that logic Nigeria had all the pressure of beating the weakest team in the group, but they still managed a tie.

 

i'll explain fruther sure


you were not condemning your compatriots in saying it

 

I watched both matches!!! Nice to know I can add you to the ignore list troll.