Gotoku Sakai, now at Hamburger SV

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by TheJester525, Feb 7, 2010.

  1. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The article refers to him as a right back and looking back at some of the boxscores from last season that is where he played. For example:
    http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...llung_vfb-stuttgart-11_1-fsv-mainz-05-30.html

    Transfermarkt has him being a LB but ambidextrous
    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/gotoku-sakai/profil/spieler_103310.html
     
  2. jakepc42

    jakepc42 Member+

    Mar 26, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This should be a sign to Klinsmann. At least give it a go. What do you have to lose?​
     
  3. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    Your right. Pissed off with japan, germany might not call. Open spot for united states and we would treat him for what he is a bundesliga level wing back who will always be in our 23.
     
  4. EXALIFTIN

    EXALIFTIN Member+

    Nov 23, 2010
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought japan didn't allow dual citizenship?
     
  5. icebreaker

    icebreaker Member+

    Mar 22, 2011
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Meh, this sounds more like he is trying to put the Japanese Fed under pressure to do something, not like he wants to actually play for another country.
     
  6. jakepc42

    jakepc42 Member+

    Mar 26, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That wouldn't revoke his US citizenship i don't believe.
     
  7. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it's a possibility, he's certainly a talent worth fighting for.
     
  8. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These rules are always strange in practice. Japan forbids dual citizenship, but they also don't have any jurisdiction over who is, and is not, an American citizen. So a guy like Sakai might be Japanese only in the eyes of Japan, but Japanese-American in the eyes of the US.

    In practice, I don't think Japan is marching dual nationals down to the embassies when people turn 18, forcing them to renounce citizenship. On the other hand, if a guy like Sakai did something to flaunt his dual-national status, like abandon the JNT for the USMNT, that might be an attention-grabbing headline that would get him into hot water.
     
  9. cd715

    cd715 Red Card

    Aug 22, 2009
    Do we have any reason to believe that he'd consider playing for the US?
     
  10. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do we have reason not to bother asking him?
     
  11. SamuraiBlue2002

    SamuraiBlue2002 Member+

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Got his first cap for Japan today in a friendly against UAE.
     
  12. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does this cap tie him to Japan now?
     
  13. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope, only official competitions such as WC Qualifying do that. He is still eligible to switch.
     
  14. sakibomb523

    sakibomb523 Member+

    Oct 13, 2009
    Orange County
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    isn't he already cap-tied from playing in the Olympics?
     
  15. an1310

    an1310 Member+

    Jun 2, 2003
    Atlanta, GA
    Provisionally cap-tied, yes. He would need to file the paperwork with FIFA to switch to the US. (Moot point, really, if he's getting senior team games.)
     
  16. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe the Olympics are considered an official youth competition. He would, as mentioned above, have to file his one-time switch (but I've been wrong before).
     
  17. drgonzo

    drgonzo Member+

    Jun 1, 2011
    Club:
    San Diego Flash
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When Japan face Iraq on the 11th he'll more then likely get cap-tied to them.
     
  18. soccaisthecoolest

    Jul 22, 2008

    Was the squad that was called in for the last friendly an A team?
     
  19. bill0

    bill0 Member

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    AFC Wimbledon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. bill0

    bill0 Member

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    AFC Wimbledon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. sakibomb523

    sakibomb523 Member+

    Oct 13, 2009
    Orange County
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Sakai could soon become at least the second dual-national to play for another country in a World Cup. (Was the first Neven Subotic in 2010?) Miguel Ponce and Isaac Brizuela could also join the list for Mexico, but have yet to actually play. Beitashour has yet to play for Iran as well.
     
  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Espinoza played with Honduras in 2010.
     
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  24. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #124 naopon, Jun 18, 2014
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2014
    Hey cool, I didn't know there was a YA thread on Gotoku. More frequent updates on the Japanese Abroad forum:
    http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/2012-14-gotoku-sakai-vfb-stuttgart-ger-el-thread-r.1972939/

    Unfortunately for him there's a good chance he might not get off the bench in Brazil. He came in with a minor knee knock and was held out of all the warm-up friendlies - unless something happens to Nagatomo, he's rooted to the bench. In particular Gotoku isn't a guy you would sub in to solidify your defense.

    His club career at Stuttgart has gone decently. Similar player to Fabian Johnson - two-footed, excellent with the ball, nice crosses and passing skill, athletic, plays all four wide positions. Bad defender - if he improves in that aspect he could move on to bigger and better things.

    Random: Gotoku has 3 brothers. Older brother Gohi is a heavyweight judoka, younger brother Noriyoshi is a central midfielder on loan from Albirex Niigata (Gotoku's old club) to Avispa Fukuoka in the 2nd division, and yet another brother Goson is an 18-year-old defender at Albirex, spending time in the 3rd division with the "J-League Under-22 Selection". None of them are Yanks, though.
     
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  25. (TxT)

    (TxT) Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    Tampa, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Question about Japanese citizenship that maybe someone can help with. I keep hearing that if you are a dual Japanese citizen under a certain age you have to chose at that certain age to either renounce one of your citizenships (that word sounds funny) and either go Japanese or not. If this is true how is it enforced? I mean what is stopping someone from telling the Japanese sure I'll renounce my citizenship with country X and then not actually going through the proper channels to do so.

    The whole concept of citizenship is just really funny in general considering it only applies to who you want to recognize you as a citizen. Like in the instance above Japan may consider you Japanese only while the country you held dual citizenship may still consider you a citizen as well as a Japanese citizen since they do allow dual citizenship.
     

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