Borussia Dortmund 2013-2014 General Discussion Thread [R]

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How Will Borussia Dortmund Do In The 2013-2014 Bundesliga Season?

  1. BVB will take back the title from Pep's Bayern team!

    12 vote(s)
    27.3%
  2. BVB will finish in second place by a huge margin again.

    6 vote(s)
    13.6%
  3. BVB will finish in second place by a close margin.

    14 vote(s)
    31.8%
  4. BVB will finish in third place, still making the CL.

    6 vote(s)
    13.6%
  5. BVB will finish in fourth place. Go into CL qualifying.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. BVB will finish between fifth or sixth, making the Europa League.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. BVB will finish between seventh and tenth place.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. BVB will be finish between eleventh and fifteenth place. (Really?)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. BVB will be in the relegation playoff. (Really?)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. BVB will be relegated. (Are you f#cking kidding?)

    4 vote(s)
    9.1%
  11. I don't know. I just want the season to start!

    2 vote(s)
    4.5%
  1. Nick (SATVLog)

    Feb 15, 2014
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is the value in holding midfielders like Busquets, Javi Martinez...and for Dortmund Bender and potentially Ginter...they can play as the holding midfielder and as a sweeper. so if a team plays with 3 attackers (4-3-3, 4-2-3-1) you can play with a 4- man backline...but when a team decides to play with 2 attackers then you can morph to a 3-man backline
     
  2. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Isn't the primary job of a holding midfielder to be a slightly advanced sweeper? All the aforementioned players have unique skillsets, different from each other that helps them stand out. Very few team play with 2 attackers and the newer 4-4-2 have been discussed at length here. Even the diamond midfield deployed by Liverpool is very compact and dynamic.

    If you read up on Michael Cox's articles on Zonalmarking, he talks about how a 3 man defense can be a disaster against a 2 striker system.
     
  3. ChampionLeaguer5000

    May 2, 2014
    I meant Polska not qualifying which is poor. But being in Euros is always the main goal.
     
  4. DortmundXXX

    DortmundXXX Member

    Mar 15, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I don't see how a 3-mans defence is a disaster, no tactic is a disaster. When you have a 3 man defence, it means you've got more options on other areas of the pitch which also means the opponent has to be careful cause you'll have a heavily packed midfield. IMO, no formation is bad or something. It just depends on the players really.
     
  5. Nermin Kolašinac

    Jun 5, 2013
    Lahmfan's crib
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    LOL at eating too much döner when you injured
    [​IMG]
     
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  6. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    You answered your roundabout question yourself. I stated that pure wingbacks aren't bred like other positions in most youth setups which means even if you have a player like Dani Alves within your ranks, he'll likely be playing as a full-back or a wide midfielder. So getting him to switch to a wingback isn't going to be easy when he is in the top flight. But that's an easier problem to solve. A more difficult problem is to get his team mates acquainted to his style of play. A really good example is Barcelona under Pep. Busquets was well drilled and intelligent enough to drop between the Pique and Puyol at the right time. Iniesta knew he had the liberty to venture forward and overlap with David Villa because Abidal rarely ventured forward.

    A 3 man defence doesn't automatically mean a loaded midfield. A 3-4-3 isn't necessarily a packed midfield.
     
  7. Liquid1010

    Liquid1010 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Immobile with a big night!

     
  8. rxavier

    rxavier New Member

    Jun 9, 2014
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Immobile scored 3 goals and gave 2 assists in the last match. He participated in all goals in the italian victory against a brazilian serie A team (5 -3).
     
  9. Bluecrux

    Bluecrux Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Just curious. Are you an Immobile fan who will now cheer for Borussia too? :)
     
  10. rxavier

    rxavier New Member

    Jun 9, 2014
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I am a borussia fan who will now cheer fot Immobile
    Haha
    There are a lot of Dortmund fans here in brazil.
     
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  11. Bluecrux

    Bluecrux Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    You just joined yesterday, so I wondered.

    Welcome to BigSoccer, regardless.
     
  12. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    @MatthausSammer is that you? :whistling::cool::ROFLMAO:
     
  13. swit0539

    swit0539 Member+

    Aug 13, 2008
    Sydney
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Ciro looks like he could be really awesome for us and a bargain at that...I can't wait to see him in the Buli. Hoping he has a good world cup
     
  14. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agreed. And I think Immobile can add some things that Lewandowski couldn't as much as I focus on what Lewandowski can do that Immobile maybe can't. For example, Lewa was never a speed demon, and occasionally it slowed us down on the break. Immobile looks much faster, with a superior burst and explosiveness.
     
  15. Nick (SATVLog)

    Feb 15, 2014
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But there are a lot of things that Lewandowski can do...which probably are more valuable for Dortmund that Immobile can't do, he is a more complete and mature player than Immobile
     
  16. chewz

    chewz Member+

    Sep 13, 2012
    Toronto
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Damn imagine an Immobile, Lewy striker pairing. Now if only we had some luck with creativity behind it as well. :ROFLMAO:
     
  17. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    This is true!! Good to see Brazilian BVB fans here again!!!!
     
  18. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I think it would have eventually become a feud. Just as it will in Munich if Bayern doesn't sell Mandzukic........

    Besides, if Lewa had stayed, BVB would have never bought Immobile.
     
  19. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Can immobile be our lewy replacement in 3 yrs :cool:
     
  20. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Yes. You guys should still fear us enough to continue resorting to dirty tactics to stop us...... ;) :laugh:
     
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  21. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Why don't you just stop supporting Bayern and start supporting Dortmund. Make things easier on yourselves.
     
  22. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    end products look better than raw talents. Sure you like your car better the way it is than to be given a chunk of metal rubber and plastic
     
  23. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That's a terrible analogy. How did your end products look when getting thrashed 5-0 against the same team that nearly pissed against us.
     
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  24. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We LET you still have Reus didn't we? ;):laugh:

    dunno, take a look at our 2013 trophy case ;):laugh:
     
  25. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    If you had your way you wouldn't let us field a team.
     
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