ESPN's Wilbon tells Klinsmann to "get out of America"

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  1. CarlosE

    CarlosE Member

    Dec 13, 2000
    Calvert County, MD
    From USA Today: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/06/michael-wilbon-jurgen-klinsmann

    I'm certainly not happy about JK's decision to cut LD, and his misguided Kobe comment was probably meant to send a message to those worshipping aging sports starts (ie, LD). However, I think that telling someone to get out the country - especially a country where he has been residing for years - as a result of these type of sports-related comments, is over the top.
     
  2. Plxix

    Plxix BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 13, 2006
    Good. We need that kind of passion here.
     
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  3. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a Strauss article not made by Strauss.
     
  4. cformusic

    cformusic Member

    Jun 5, 2014
    BKNY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Is Wilbon even a soccer fan? Why does his opinion matter?
     
  5. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Wilbon may make some good points, but his tone smacks of xenophobia.
     
  6. Cubanlix63

    Cubanlix63 Member+

    AFC Ajax
    Feb 19, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Wilbon was completely out of line but, Jurgen's Kobe analogy was pretty silly.
     
  7. NASI GORENG

    NASI GORENG Member+

    Feb 19, 2013
    fairfax
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    like a sizeable portion of NT fans

    I have no problem with it coming from Wilbon. His job is to be opinionated and entertain. And, secretly, I'm just glad MNT is getting coverage on ESPN.
     
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  8. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I haven't seen it can someone post what he said
     
  9. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First, yeah I'm not enamored with anything that smacks of xenophobia, and that comment certainly does.

    That said--I've already had one non-soccer fan here at work approach me to ask if I'd heard the "insane" thing the German guy coaching our team said.

    I think we in the soccer bubble might underestimate how stupid it was of Klinsmann to say that. Really bad PR.
     
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  10. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    On the bright side, one of these ESPN talking heads seems to legitimately be getting worked up over something U.S. Soccer related, instead of being FORCED to talk about it, which is a nice change.

    On the dark side, Wilbon was out of line.
     
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  11. NASI GORENG

    NASI GORENG Member+

    Feb 19, 2013
    fairfax
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Is this sarcasm?

    I really cant tell...
     
  12. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

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  13. ClevelandForce

    Jan 27, 2010
    Breaking news: Wilbon's tirade has convinced Klinsmann to leave the country. My sources tell he's getting on a plane bound for Brazil next week.
     
  14. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    different reactions to Klinsi coaching

    America....: --> told to get out of
    Germany..: <-- told to come over (more often)
     
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  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    I wonder if you know that Wilbon said precisely that in his hilarious, albeit un-PC, rant.
     
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  16. Chastaen

    Chastaen Member+

    Alavés
    Jul 9, 2004
    Winnipeg
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Wilbon would have let it go if it had not been Kobe. Kobe gets that 'bulletproof' treatment that few athletes seem to get.

    Klinsi is right in that we do throw money at the aging starts for 'just a little more'. Although I was more concerned about the money being given to rookies in the NFL more. Gone were the days when your first round draft pick learns from the bench for a year or two. I think in the US we could use a better system to pay athletes...and I was born here.
     
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  17. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    I think this is a product of colleges more efficiently and consistently providing the NFL with NFL-ready talent straight out of college more than anything else. That may just be a theory of mine, but I believe it.
     
  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Juergen could use a verbal kick in the pants, but that wasn't it. Wilbon didn't do anything more go off because Kobe was mentioned, which got Wilbon going because he nut-hugs every NBA superstar. (You should have read him licking Rose's balls last year in defense of those who wanted him to return when the doctors said he was cleared to play.)

    That rant was content free.
     
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  19. Skippysasquirrel

    May 11, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I recall that we won the Gold Cup... Who the hell is Wilbon?
     
  20. Chastaen

    Chastaen Member+

    Alavés
    Jul 9, 2004
    Winnipeg
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the problem is you pay big money to a player fresh out of college, who may not play more than a few seasons in the NFL. Players were paid by where they were picked, not by what they had done or could do. Falling in the draft costs a player money, simply because we have tied value to the position they are drafted at.

    Bridgewater could be argued to be the #1 or #2 QB in the draft, he is making under $5 because he dropped in the draft. While the 'unskilled' positions taken before him make more money. But at least the dollar amounts are lessened now.
     
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  21. Bclay

    Bclay Member

    May 29, 2012
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought Wilbon was being pretty ridiculous. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, Klinsmann just said it was unrealistic to think we can win the World Cup this year. Like he said, in order to do that, we'd have to play the game of our lives 6 or 7 times. For anyone who follows soccer closely, this isn't a weird statement at all, it makes sense (and I think someone on these boards pointed out that Bruce Arena said the same type of thing prior to 02). But for Americans who only pay attention once every 4 years and don't know Iniesta from Julian Green... it sounds insane to them for a coach to say we can't win it all.

    Klinsmann really isn't the type to do this, but he should've just dodged the question. If he had answered it "yes we can win the world cup," Americans wouldn't have had an issue with it since we're used to that kind of talk, but it probably would've made headlines in other countries.

    Anyway, even if Wilbon was wrong and came across as xenophobic, it's still a good thing for the US. An ESPN guy getting fired up about the national team and causing controversy is almost always going to be good. Right or wrong, the more people talk about soccer and the national team the better.
     
  22. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Wilbon said what?

    Oh, I'll wait to form an opinion until it's confirmed by Skip Bayless and Woody Paige.
     
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  23. MTowho

    MTowho Member

    Jun 2, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just ratings. ESPN capitalizing on World Cup hype and driving more headlines towards the USMNT.
     
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  24. Plxix

    Plxix BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 13, 2006
    If we get creamed by Nigeria tomorrow, I want to see Lalas and Twellman throw tantrum and beat up whoever else in the studio. Wilbon breaks the camera etc. Then we can credit JK for finally bringing soccer to America.
     

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