Health Care Reform Part III: The Implementation.

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  1. Yoshou

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    I'm sure it will inch up higher as the states that have their own exchanges report their numbers and the people that had started the process complete it over the next two weeks. Of course, it will also drop as people fail to pay their first bills..

    All in all, the number is virtually meaningless right now outside of it being above some arbitrarily assigned milestone.. Even more meaningless when you consider that ACA is about more than just how many people get their insurance through the exchanges. There is also the people that are now insured via the Medicaid expansion and the U26 group that can get coverage under their parents, and the people that, for whatever reason, got their coverage outside the exchanges..
     
  2. M

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    I wonder what proportion of that 1m were woefully under-insured prior to their insurance being cancelled? I guess it's tricky drawing a dividing line for that but I bet many were.
     
  3. ceezmad

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    On my TV it looked closer to 7,040,996.
     
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  4. M

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    Yes but what does it look like of the Fox News graph?
     
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  5. Minnman

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    One of the most interesting things to watch in the coming weeks will be how different states fare in the wake of the enrollment deadline (or deadlines, as the case may be). The news out of Kentucky is pretty amazing:

    Obamacare Cuts Kentucky's Uninsured Rate By 40 Percent

     
  6. dapip

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    Obamacare Schadenfreude...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/bad-obamacare-predictions_n_5071741.html

    :D
     
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  7. Danwoods

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    It's hard to quantify alleged's and so-called's but it is definitely less than the numbers Obama put out.
     
  8. Yoshou

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    Someone totally needs to FOX News the predicted and actual. 7,000,000 predicted bar 1/3 the size of the 7,041,000 actual bar with non-labeled lines every 10,000. :)
     
  9. ceezmad

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    Benghazi!
     
  10. dapip

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  11. ToasterLeavins

    Mar 25, 2003
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    This thread has turned into:

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  12. M

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    “No, the Affordable Care Act hasn’t fixed our long broken health care system, but this law has made our health care system a lot better,” Obama said before a large and happy crowd Tuesday afternoon in the Rose Garden."

    So, no, not a claim of "Mission Accomplished".
     
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  13. taosjohn

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    I think you mean:

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  14. dapip

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    Did Obama land on the top of the VA Hospital wearing surgeon's scrubs?
     
  15. Yoshou

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    #2715 Yoshou, Apr 2, 2014
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    Depends what is being referenced in "Mission Accomplished". If the mission accomplished is that the health care system and how it is paid for has been fixed, then I don't think anyone would agree with that. If the mission accomplished is that even for how limited and flawed it is, ACA took a big step? Maybe. If the mission accomplished is that the Republicans repeal and repeal argument should be dead and buried and it is time for them to actually start working on fixing the problems with ACA? I really, really hope it is, but I highly doubt it.
     
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  16. Dr. Wankler

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    You know what this debate will turn into now, don't you?

    Mission accomplished? Nyet, comrade:

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. puttputtfc

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  18. Dr. Wankler

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  19. puttputtfc

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    They could have waited a week or so. Besides, I thought one of the selling points of this great first step was keeping rates down.
     
  20. dapip

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    [​IMG]
     
  21. Yoshou

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    Keeping rates down does not necessarily mean they won't increase.
     
  22. dapip

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    Exactly. As long as they grow at a lower rate than the last 20 years we are on the right path.
     
  23. puttputtfc

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    No one else finds it odd that less than 72 hours after the deadline the companies know they have to increase rates next year?
     
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  24. Yoshou

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    No? Most rate increases have to be approved by the various state insurance commissions and, as with many governmental processes, this is a slow process, so the insurance companies have to start the process early to make sure the rate increases are approved in time.
     
  25. puttputtfc

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    Team Blue party of corporations.
     

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