Oldest clubs (1800s) in South America?

Discussion in 'CONMEBOL' started by Red Harvest, Sep 18, 2003.

  1. Red Harvest

    Red Harvest Member

    Mar 5, 2001
    Ok, these are the ones that I know of:

    Gimnasia y Esgrima (La Plata) - Argentina - 1887
    Quilmes - Argentina - 1887
    Rosario Central - Argentina - 1889
    Peñarol - Uruguay - 1891
    Santiago Wanderers - Chile - 1892
    Flamengo - Brasil - 1895
    Nacional - Uruguay - 1899

    Any of you know of other clubs formed in the late 1800s regardless of division?
     
  2. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    hey guys what is the oldest club in peru or venezuela?

    Colombia: It must be Millos or santa Fe
    DIM was from 1913- 90 yrs old only
     
  3. Treetaliano

    Treetaliano Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    San Diego
    There is some city in south Chile that was settled by Germans in the 1880's that still has a team.

    I dont remember the name of the town, nor the team, but I particularly remember watching a documentary about Chile earlier this year and finding that interesting, as that city speaks German still, and the population is pretty much the same make up over the past century.

    I'm sure a Google search will find the asnwers
     
  4. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    I also recall that the brutal ruler Pinochet, gave them paved roads with tax payers money from other regions! But, the name scape my memory, I did not know about the futbol team.
     
  5. Red Harvest

    Red Harvest Member

    Mar 5, 2001
    I believe it is Alianza Lima, founded on February 15, 1901 followed by Cienciano founded on July 8, 1901.

    I couldn't get any info on the teams from the second division though so there may be an older club hidden somewhere in the lower divisions, although I doubt it.
     
  6. loloy_vinotinto

    loloy_vinotinto New Member

    Mar 22, 2003
    Maracaibo, Venezuela
    well Venezuela has suffered to have long standing clubs because before there was absolutly no support... now there is a little but sadly we still see now a days clubs dissapearing... so I can only account for those who still exist...

    surprsingly to many, the oldest club is Deportivo Italchacao... but, not with this name... Deportivo Italchacao came about the merging of two clubs: Deportivo Chacao and Deportivo Italia. The latter was the club founded in 1948... Deportivo Italchacao as is has no more then 6 or 7 years...

    the order after that in the first division is:
    Estudiantes de Merida - 1971
    Deportivo Tachira - 1974
    Mineros de Guayana and Trujillanos - (both) 1981
    Caracas FC - 1984
    Carabobo FC - 1995
    Union Atletico Maracaibo, Monagas SC and UA El Vigia - 2001


    second division:
    Union Lara - 1999
    Deportivo Anzoategui - 2002


    I'll try to find out the other second division ones... but it's very hard
     
  7. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Club de Regatas Lima is Peru's oldest members club, which recently celebrated its 128th anniversary. I think this is correct, but I don't know if they ever had a soccer side.

    Reportedly, they can compete in over 40 sports, especially known for their remo and basketball.

    I will look for more.
     
  8. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Paraguay's leading club

    Football was introduced to Paraguay by William Paats, a Dutch teacher. Olimpia were the first club to be founded and had to wait a year before they had any domestic opposition, losing 1-0 to Club Guarani. The domestic championship got under way in 1906, and although Olimpia had to wait six years for their first title, once they had got off the mark they were hard to stop. They have been Paraguay's leading club ever since.

    http://www.uefa.com/competitions/EUSA/news/Kind=8192/newsId=44627.html
     
  9. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    The oldest?

    Associação Atlética Ponte Preta
    11 de Agosto de 1900
    Brasil

    then...

    Fluminense, Brazil's oldest club, was founded in Rio in 1902 by the city's white, Anglophile elite.
     
  10. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Food for thought

    A bit off topic, but this may make you think as to why soccer seems so new in regards to the overall history of the world, no?

    ...from this website

    In Argentina the game was introduced by the English residents in Buenos Aires, and the AFA was based on 1891. Nevertheless, it rooted with certain slowness and in the end those were the Italian emigrants that matched popular.

    Chile formed its federation in 1895, Uruguay in 1900 and Paraguay in 1906. The British influence in South America is evident in the names of some clubs: Corinthians in Brazil, Everton and Rangers in Chile, Liverpool and Wanderers in Uruguay, River Plate and Newell's Old Boys in Argentina.

    To think, the USA (due to immigration, too) may have a longer history of "club soccer" than South America.

    The Oneida club of Boston was based on 1862, and the national selection reached the semi-finals in the World Cup of 1930 (in Africa?).

    Finally, consider this...

    In 1904 FIFA was founded.
    By 1992, the FIFA had 179 members.
     
  11. Red Harvest

    Red Harvest Member

    Mar 5, 2001
    Re: The oldest?

    Hmm..I guess you're right.

    I thought it was Flamengo (1895), but I went to their website and found out the futbol team wasn't started until 1911.

    I guess they were a rowing/cricket type club before that.
     
  12. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    yeah, lets talk about futbol clubs only by membership or coorporation....


    what about atletico nacional y Millonarios de Bogota?
     
  13. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia
    Atletico Nacional apareció por los lados de 1940 como UNION, luego se junto con indulana, y formaron UNION INDULANA, luego se llamaron Atletico Municipal, y por ultimo, el nombre actual
     
  14. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    peru

    cienciano was also formed in 1901

    i think ciclista lima is from the 1800 but it disspaerad of the sporting map in the eraly 90's
     
  15. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    Los muchachos no tenían un local social, cancha y ni siquiera una pelota. Tuvieron que esforzarse para juntar los “diez mangos” que hacían falta para comprar un balón y el sello de goma con el nombre del club. Era el 4 de agosto de 1904.
    Un grupo de muchachos se independizaron de la tienda MAIPU e club.... patrocinado por los duenos de una tienda de telas.
     
  16. loloy_vinotinto

    loloy_vinotinto New Member

    Mar 22, 2003
    Maracaibo, Venezuela
    rectificacion: Monagas SC fue fundado en 1988.. tiene 15 años
     
  17. hamlet

    hamlet New Member

    Mar 20, 2003
    Chicago
    Re: Food for thought

    A first World Cup will be held in Africa in 2010, probably South Africa.
    In 1930, they played in Uruguay, and it was won by
    the local team. The game was already an olimpic game and Uruguay was one of the latest champion.
     
  18. Juan Velazquez

    Juan Velazquez New Member

    Jan 1, 2014
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
  19. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
  20. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Chile:

    Santiago Wanderers 1892, followed by Union Espanola 1897, and Magallanes 1897 (Second division).
     
  21. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    cricket? pero eso no existe este siglo!
    cual sera el mas viejo de los 11 o 12 que aun compiten en el torneo de primera en Peru?
     
  22. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Were Quilmes, Rosario Central and G&E La Plata all founded as football clubs? I know both Peñarol and Santiago Wanderers were and am pretty sure I'd read that at least Gimnasia was not founded as a footy club but later added the sport.
     
  23. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Penarol started off as a cricket club.
     
  24. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    What about Quilmes, GELP and Rosario?
     
  25. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Not sure about the others, but Penarol didn't separate from CURCC (Central Uruguay Railway Cricket Club) as a futbol club until 1913, while the original cricket club lasted until 1915, so they both at one point were existing simultaneously. Nevertheless, CURCC is recognized as being Penarol and vice versa.
     
    MetroChile repped this.

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