Ballon D'or 2013 thread

I'm glad you admit it, it's the first honorable thing you've done in this thread.

 

Okay now will you be 'honorable' and admit that you were talking out of your a$$ about relative squad strengths seeing that Barca just demolished Celtic (who you labeled a top team) 6-1 with Neymar filling Messi's void flawlessly in the center scoring the 1-2 goal with Xavi, (Messi's bread and butter) Plus the two other goals and assisting Pedro? Madrid with Ronaldo only beat Copenhagen 2-0 whom I am sure you wouldn't consider a top team.

You could gain some dignity by admitting you were wrong. I've never seen you admit being wrong so I'm sure this will be impossible for you.

 

The main thing he's wrong about is labelling Celtic a top team. LMAO. 3 points and minus-11 goal difference in the weakest CL group.

 

Ya lol, I already called him on labeling Celtic as top, but even still this is the logic guy so using his logic Celtic are a top team and without Messi, Barca took 'em apart at the seems. He was just too eager to launch Messi into another stratosphere based on a couple negative results. Now he should answer for himself on this result. Barca have outscored their last two opponents 10-2 while Madrid 2-0. 1 match including Ronaldo. I'm not devaluing Messi obviously he is either first or second best in the world at any given moment, but Bada Bing needs to start answering for his baseless assumptions.

I think we've seen the humanization of Messi over the last year and Bada Bing is having a hard time dealing, hence the outlandish claims and reliance on Whoscored to tell him this isn't so.

 

I never talk out of my ass, I always base my opinion on something concrete, on something logical. Madrid's squad is easily better.

Barcelona had 1,5 weeks to rest and Celtic had nothing to play for, as they were out of CL and Europa, and Barcelona had. Quite a difference from a game when Barca needed a Celtic player send off to score a goal, eh? Now is this logical, which would mean you continued your trolling?

 

Doesn't mean a thing. Inzaghi had 8 goals in his first 4 group stage games in 02/03 and Crespo had the same amount, albeit in in 6 games. What should we say about that era?

 

No one here likes you. No one cares for your posts. Do everyone a favor and just go away.

 

Funnily, also past season certain stats like key passes and turnovers/dispossessed are in favour of him. While common perception is different.

 

The overall rating is average game based, with a game rating cap being 10. So even if you score 10 goals in a game, the rating is still the same if you score a lets say a hat-trick, which is rather logical because you don't need to score 10 goals in a game.

 

You left out another stat: # of team trophies won. Or is this the first time that statistic won't be considered?

I could see if there was a big difference in statistics then it should offset trophies, but I don't see such a big difference in those numbers. Frankly, neither of them were dominant enough to ignore a treble-winning campaign by Bayern.

 

Sure they were. Individually, they were the two best. No one can touch them. Bayern were great, they were amazing, but that's because their entire team was amazing. Muller had 8 goals in the competition. Robben had a few goals too and a game winning goal in the final. Lahm and Schweinsteiger played their positions marvelously. How people can try and pinpoint one player from that team for an INDIVIDUAL trophy is absolutely absurd.

 

Actually it will lose all credibility if Ribery doesn't win it. He was a clear leader of the best european team that has won all the trophies and it's not fair to base ratings mostly on goals because Ribery isn't a forward and his league is more competetive without amateur teams like Granada , Osasuna and other scumbags where top players can easily get dozens of goals. But I have read today that FIFA convinced Ronaldo to visit Ballon D'or ceremony, so it seems that it's already decided that Cristiano will win this award.

 

Clear leader? Pretty sure that was Lahm. And yeah, that Granada, Osasuna, etc. talk has already been tossed out of the window considering Messi and Ronaldo do the same to Champions League teams.

 

Have you at least seen 10-15 games of Bayern Munich? It's clear that Ribery is the leader in the team, he can do everything on the pitch that Ronaldo can and at such components as passing, dribbling he excels him.

 

Lahm is a defender , he is a good captain, but when the team attacks it's Ribery who is mostly passed to and who is mostly sought by his teammates.

 

Don't be ignorant. He certainly cannot do everything that Ronaldo can. He cannot shoot better than him, he can finish better than him, he cannot header better than etc. That's not opinion, that is fact. Ronaldo has 3 times as many goals as Ribery does for the year and Ribery only has 6 or so more assists than him. The difference in individual play is staggering and if you asked Guardiola whether he could have Ronaldo or Ribery in his squad he'd already have Ribery's suitcase packed waiting for him at the airport.

 

Lahm is an amazing defender and captain. He is the leader. Not Ribery. Ribery is arguably their best player in attack, but that does not make him the leader. I'd say its very arguable that Bayern would lose more from not having Lahm in the team, than Ribery.

 

It makes me sad for humanity knowing someone actually thinks that's true.

 

Which is why he has never scored more than 50 goals in a season, or more than that in consecutive seasons.

Try again.

 

You're funny, Ribery doesn't even play as a forward at all so why do you compare their goals? Ribery is also a great shooter and if Ronaldo can score 2-3 goals from a long distances it doesn't change much, Ribery is small he is physically limited to head better that Ronaldo and he doesn't even need it because he plays much deeper than Ronaldo. Ribery - better passer, better at organizing attacks , better vision, better dribbler currently(Ronaldo in MU was better), faster at first 3-4 metres... And most importantly he is the guy who made an impact and won trophies and Ronaldo has ZERO trophies. the last one who had zero trophies and won the award was FIGO, would be funny if another portugal player wins it the same way

 

Ribery doesn't play as a forward, do you even know his functions or you simply check the stats?