Carlos el Pibe Valderrama, news & rumors

Discussion in 'Colombia' started by northern fan, Feb 23, 2003.

  1. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I am late here, but the Falcao vs Pibe arguement is very interesting. If we asked in Colombia, Pibe would win and by a good margin. If we were to ask international voters, I think Falcao would take it home though. Europeans place a lot of weight o club success and I think they would undoubtedly go with Falcao.

    For me, Pibe is still the greatest and has to be dethroned prior to me choosing someone else.
     
  2. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Pibe has no NT success either. 3 Qualifications yes but awful performances & no Copa America. The Captain who gave us one is Cordoba. Club wise not even close. Cordoba >>>>>> Pibe. Falcao is also up there but it would be

    Cordoba then Yepes or Falcao. I know CBs don't get the same love that strikers get but Ivan Cordoba was awesome for so long and won a crap load of trophies for Inter. He also went out on top and retired with Inter which I love instead of being a little bitch and going to the MLS or ruin his legacy by playing in Colombia.
     
  3. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Wow crzd, you are really clueless. I love Ivan Ramiro and Falcao, but the truth is that Pibe did more for Colombian soccer than anyone has ever done before or after. He put us in the map and made Colombia relevant in the world of soccer. It is because of him that we are seeing all these generations of great talent come after. That is something that you seem to refuse to understand and that not even you can't take away from him.
     
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  4. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
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    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    THIS!
     
  5. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Really? Um how many euro players did he get there, what titles did he win us? Ivan Cordoba opened more doors and Falcao kicked them down. People love to look at the past but our future is much much brighter. If we can keep Pekerman we can win titles. Maybe 2 next World Cups, next Copa America, the anniversary Copa America and the Confederations Cup.
     
  6. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So you think we can be perhaps the most dominant team of all time?
     
  7. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    little bit of hyperbole in that argument...
     
  8. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Crzd please.
     
  9. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Crzd, you must have some limit of nonsense that you can produce...I'm sorry, we can argue on anything you want but there are things that are just too obvious and Carlos Alberto Valderrama is one of them. So far, the best Colombian player until anyone else proves anything else.
     
  10. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #185 pepinointer, Nov 9, 2013
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2013
    si crzd estaria tan seguro de las tonterias que dice, simplemente esperaria que falcao y james .....terminen sus carreras......y desde ahi si juzgar....pero su afan, por predecir cosas que no han pasado solo muestra inseguridad de su deseo (que como sabemos es que la seleccion de l 90 pierda todo su prestigio, por que ha dicho publicamente que la odia)

    por que por lo menos en nivel de seleccion falcao y james no ha superado a valderrama.......lo que han hecho es una eliminatoria muy buena (0 goles en el mundial, una mala copa america......) diferencia de valderrama....

    valderrama gano 3 veces al unico premio individual del que pudo aspirar (mejor jugador de america..en su tiempo no habia acceso para que una persona no europea ganara balon de oro) ....pudo jugar en europa, cuando solo podian jugar 3 extranjeros en un equipo de ese continente, no como ahora con ley bosma (ganando una copa francia, lo mismo que gano de primero cordoba jugando en un equipo grande de italia tras 6 años...)

    falcao sin duda a nivel de clubes ya lo supero....pero si uno se pone a ignorar la diferencia de tiempo , es bien injusto....y como se ha globalizado el futbol desde eso entonces......seria una pesima comparacion, por lo menos muy simple
     
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  11. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yo ya no veo sentido en debatir con una pared.
     
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  12. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
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    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Very good post Pepino!
     
  13. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Crack pepino, asi es. Crzd read this shit.
     
  14. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So if Falcao wins the golden boot and the World Cup next year. Is he better than Pibe or does he have more to prove. Ivan Cordoba won us the Copa America and has won a Champions league and every other title with Inter...... so why do we never talk about him?

    I don't like that Pibe still cashes in on his former fame just like the rest of our 90s players and think they are soccer gods for scoring 1 goal and tying with Germany. Paraguay tied Germany 3-3 in Germany a couple months back. I just want us to have more ambition. Winning everything is not out of the question. I am not saying being the most dominate team ever but we can be the most dominate for 2 years or so. I want Colombia to have more trophies not just talking about the awesome ties our legends from 1994 and 1990 gots 20+ years ago
     
  15. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    All of you sound like Chicago Cubs fans and it's sad. We need to be more like Red Soxs fans be loyal but also want something more.
     
  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #191 pepinointer, Nov 9, 2013
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2013
    siempre la misma cosa, se queja por que unos jugadores cree que no tienen el reconocimineto que espera....y por eso se siente en legitimidad de destruir el prestigio de los que si lo tienen bien ganando??? ........ha oido alguna entrevista del pibe pedazo de criticon????????? entonces que quiere que linchemos al pibe , por que es famoso??? que asco en serio

    osea si el pibe no fuera famoso, si le daria credito????? su argumento es bobo.....


    por que no se habla lo de cordoba como de lo de falcao? facil la champions que gano el inter el fue suplente.... y no tuvo un papel muy relevante.......la misma razon que ud no reconoce las dos europa league de perea

    ademas darle mucho credito a ivan por esa champions,.....es como darselo a macdonald mariga.....

    el futbol es ingrato con los defensas.......

    falcao gano el mundial con colombia????? deje de hablar escenarios hipoteticos como si ya hubieran pasado

    y como dije anteriormente, cordoba llego en vigencia de ley bosman

    lo del amistoso de paraguay es en serio?? compararlo con un empate en un mundial contra el campeon del mundo, que significo el PRIMER PASO A SEGUNDA RONDA de colombia en un mundial .......osea en su puta criticadera insensata lo pone en el mismo nivel? SEA SERIO!!!!!

    SEA SERIO!!!! EN SERIO SI LE DA TANTA VERGUENZA COLOMBIA ...CAMBIE DE EQUIPO!!!!



    callese, que ud sea un ingrato indeseable, no quiere decir que aca no tengamos ambicion........al contrario, segun ud james ya demostro que es mejor sin haber obtenido mas que el pibe.......sera cuestion de capricho o de ambicion??

    ud es un caprichoso fastidioso..........habla de ambicion cuando ya dice que los mejores jugadores del pais, ni han jugado su primer mundial jajajaa


    en serio no apoye a colombia!!! ...solo critica destructivamente , sus post emanan ignorancia .....

    como con el tema de la sede quedo en evidencia su afan de criticar por criticar, todos los que parrticiparon en se thread le levaron la contraria que fue un descache o algo asi.........
     
  17. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Crzd, really, you don't have to accept the whole world's opinion, but at least give good arguments...Your theory worth nothing.
     
  18. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    yuuurrrdaaa se formo!
     
  19. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I don't mind most of crzd comments, but his disrespect for our history and former players is really annoying. Come on bro, I want more than anyone for Falcao and James to be all time legends, but let them get there and don't destroy what other players have done along the way.

    I said it before and I'll say it again, Pibe paved the way for every generation after him. Show the man the respect he's earned.
     
  20. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    for the love of god, there is almost nothing as bad as red sox fans.
     
  21. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_100
    Quien es el unico Colombiano que sale en la lista?
    Y gano 2 veces el south American player of the year, el 2ndo año lo gano por ensima del mejor lateral derecho de la historia, Cafu
     
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  22. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    You clearly haven't met a Yankee fan...
     
  23. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Nonoononono, ustedes no han ido al Campin a un partido de Millonarios...
     
  24. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    i grew up in flushing, ive been listening to them celebrate my whole life while my mets did nothing. :) i always root for the underdog.
     
  25. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Lol, ellos son muy creidos and like to trash talk about los Yankees fans in NJ

    Jajajajajajajajjaja
     

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