Real Madrid vs Atlético de Madrid | La Liga | Match day 7 | 09/28/13 | 22:00 (Local)

2 of the 7 games were played against the promoted teams,how much time did the youngsters get there? 2 minutes for Morata against Elche !
We are not asking him to start the young guys in some crucial CL fixtures like say Juve or Galatasaray.

 

Agree on the Marcelo+Ronaldo partnership. Another reason why we should go back to the 4-2-3-1. Isco in the centre with Bale and Ronaldo on the wings. It's not fucking difficult. All our players would prefer this.

 

So many of you are clutching at straws and for no reason whatsoever. Just face the truth already, we are going nowhere as a club for as long as Perez is president and for as long as we have shameful players like Khedira, Benzema, di Maria, and Pepe wearing our shirt out on the pitch. We have less balls than Atletico Madrid, that speaks volumes about what we have turned into since the first Perez era and he is all to blame for it.

 

Before the season started what was your realistic expectation for minutes for Jese, Morata and Casemiro? You complainers still haven't answered this question. Especially when you take into consideration we have a new coach, players, system...shouldn't getting these things into working order take precedence over giving youngsters minutes just so we can say we did?

 

Lopez
Carvajal-Varane-Ramos-Coentrao
Casemiro-Modric
Bale-Isco-Ronaldo
Morata

Our lineup should easily be that right now, but no way Ancelotti will pay attention to logic. He's still in denial judging by his presser yesterday.

 

Varane and Carvajal have to come back. Coentrao could have another go it seems, as he is loaded with pace. The team's passing was a really bad last time. Every time it was time to attack a bad pass was the reason. Everything else was straightforward, like the running or even the movement, just the passing was a huge let off. The side is based on passing.

Khedira scraps up this role and now takes up being a defensive midfielder who occasionally runs with the ball. His passing wasn't used here anyway. He can run with the ball but not all the time, he's better without it.

 

Are you an idiot? How exactly was there plenty of running and movement but the passing was the only let off? We had nothing. No fluidity, wide threats, movement, pressing, closing down spaces, and just no urgency in attack.

If there was any doubt before, then there can't be now that Benzema, Khedira, di Maria, Arbeloa, and Pepe have no place at this club any longer. They must be rid of.

 

There was none of anything. Though the passing came off as the worst in the end. Too many went astray, if there was an improvement there, the rest could've also seen an improvement. Atletico did everything right and Real did everything wrong. Though just by saying that won't fix the side. The side's passing was coming off a lot worse than other things, at the same time, there was no fluidity, pressure, closing down the spaces etc. The side has to put things into perspective and not just run around in circles complaining.

 

I think we need to fire carlo as quick as possiable before we loss in champions league...we spend more than 150 million and our over quality has come down compared to last year...our players are only interested in contract renewal and salary nothing else..

 

We passed and moved just without a purpose. Oh and evidently pressing and hardwork isn't what we do anymore as well.

 

Ultimately that's all on the manager, the players, and of course our idiot president. We looked like it was Day 1 of pre-season training and not like it was our 8th competitive game of the season already in a big city derby already pivotal to our title challenging ambitions. It's inexcusable.

 

Yes, because what we need is for things to become even worse.

What we need is our manager to live up to his hype and adjust himself to his personnel, club and it's tradition. Then we'll be fine.

 

Ancelotti is not good enough to manage Real Madrid but the squad he has is not good enough for his system to work at all. That was painfully obvious yesterday.

 

So for you losing is normal ...you do not relize we have lost playing very badly and we cannot even finish 6th in la liga with this performance ...we are playing like headless chickens .

 

Individualy, Bale and Isco combined are better individuals than Ozil and Higuain combined. Try reading what I wrote, and not what you want to read. IMO, Ozil sucked balls in more than a few matches last season, nothing too serious, but still enough matches to keep him out of the "indespensable to the club" list. Do you really think Ozil's passes alone could help this team that much?

And another thing. Ancelotti? The world hated Mourinho for what he has supposedly done to Real last year. What do you guys think would happen if Ancelotti said "ok, that actually is the system that works for Real, let's not change it." He would be booed and cursef from day one. A change in perspective was needed to show the fans some work is being done. Yes, he failed, but is it all his fault? I highly doubt it. We have 200m € wingers, FFS, they alone cost more than most of whole La Liga things. It's all about money. You have Ronaldo, who I f*cking love, but the guy wants to be #1 on the pay list. You have institution that is Iker Casillas on the bench, and that has to do alot with the dressing room mentality, don't think they all like this situation. Problems here are solved with more money, more money brings more problems and that is solved with even more money. You have Pepe dragging an Elche player, Elche! player onto himself to get a penalty so we can win a game we should win with a second squad.

Ronaldo is a read book in La Liga, he can't win all the matches on his own anymore. Benzema could get a red card in every game and it would make no difference whatsoever. Isco is a brilliant young guy, but you can't expect him to be the man of decision at his age. Not in big matches and when the whole team plays like sh*t. Bale needs time, Spurs have a delightful way of screwing up the players they want to sell, but don't really want to sell. Modrić last year, now Bale, he got a "vacation" on their forst or second match day? Yeah, right... DiMaria, sometimes I want to kiss him, sometimes I want to slap his ass back to Argentina. Defence is yet again troubled with injuries, you can't fight against that. And midfield. Khedira was a good prospect and a hard worker until he got used to the fact he doesn't need to work too hard for his place in the starting 11. Alonso? We might miss him, but you can't seriously count on him, he's not getting any younger and he might also be sold this season. It's best that he doesn't play that much, or we would be f*cked when he leaves.

I don't know. I still believe this team has much more hidden problems than just manager problem/few players problem. It's not a drop in form, we sucked last year, we suck this year. There has to be a reason to keeping Benzema in play when he's obviously useless, to keep Modrić on the bench for the first half in the first derby of the season, and for whole lot of other weird things that are happening this year, as well as the last season.

 

Can any one comment on bale performance ...he is going to impress or impass ?

 

Ancelotti is good enough to manage Real Madrid but he made/is making wrong, crucial decisions

 

Which means he is not good enough. Simple as that.

Being successful elsewhere doesn't mean that he will be a success here or that he is good enough because so far he has clearly not been, despite having enough time to at least build a base and start making things click slowly. I don't even know what we're playing right now, it's very hard to define and must be a whole lot more confusing for the players who look even more clueless as to what Carlo is putting on them.

This isn't PSG or Milan, we're not going to give him the time that they did to make things gel and get results. He is on borrowed time if he keeps this up.

 

We need number 9 asap ....benzema or morata cannot help us on that position..

 

I would like to see a front line of Isco, Ronaldo and Bale with a midfield of Illarra, Modric and Casemiro

Couldn't hurt at this stage. Marcelo coming back is crucial as well as Varane replacing Pepe.

 

Don't overreact.

Ancelotti is good enough for RM but he is being stubborn right now. Playing the same system that made us look pathetic against Elche, Villarreal and now Pathetico is a sign of stubbornness. If he continues with being like this he won't make it before the end of the season though.

 

I really have no issue if Ancelotti wants to persist with his "system" (whatever the Hell it is) right now but if you're going to do that play the players which, at this time, address the obvious focal points of it i.e. attacking FBs, a striker who can play with his back to goal, a DM to sit in front of your back four.

 

I think he has underestimated the Spanish league. Even a team like Elche completely nullified our play and looked the more organised and genuinely better team.

I hate to repeat the mantra but..."individualism doesn't win anything, teams win trophies"
At this moment in time there is too much individualism in this team and it has been exacerbated by Ancelotti's nonsense idea of "free roles" that he has given his players. No team ethic at all. Pure anarchy.

 

I can read just fine, and for me, at this point, still, no, you are free to have your own opinion.