Real Madrid vs Atlético de Madrid | La Liga | Match day 7 | 09/28/13 | 22:00 (Local)

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  1. mymy33

    mymy33 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    So then if it's 100% Ancelotti's and his assistants fault why do you continue to focus on individual players? Well except Khedira.

    And you were *right* about Oezil and you decide that now your *opinion* which is really nothing more than over emo attacks and double standards on players/staff you don't like are the only ones that matter. And then when someone questions your *opinion* out come the personal attacks. All you need is a post about your pathetic, micromanaged real life and your quota will be filled too.

    You'v been butthurt since Mou left and Oezil leaving pushed over the edge and now you're just looking for reasons to attack the focuses of your dislike now. But like "no trollo" you adding little disclaimers like "we'll be okay" and such help you believe you still maintain any sort of objectivity.

    What does this have to do with anything? Although I do agree on Benzema's ill-timed comments.
     
  2. Deep Pal

    Deep Pal Member+

    Jun 19, 2013
    India,Kolkata
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    even this reaction seems to be quite COMFORTING!!!
     
  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Because they are not good enough to be starting for this club.

    ...and after we're both done, you can sing us a little rap ditty, so we can truly say that it's over when the fat lady sings.
     
  4. mymy33

    mymy33 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    Neither is Khedira using this arbitrary *standard* :D

    Or when your mummy comes and tells you it's time to log off the Interwebs and go night night....gotta be up early and those Interoffice memos aren't going to deliver themselves dammit!
     
  5. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    How original. I am truly insulted. Like, in the way that the fact that you think this was clever or would sort of have an emotional effect on me is insulting to my intelligence.

    Maybe you picked one of the insults out of your @Chinky24 folder by mistake?
     
  6. mymy33

    mymy33 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    Well of course it wasn't as clever as "fat lady singing"..I mean you haven't used that one before...ever, but forgive me it's still early here. And this is the Internet dude, for the record nothing anybody says here should have an emotional effect on you. Jeez Louise :D
     
  7. fanrealclub

    fanrealclub Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    yes . I think problem is ancelotti is failing to communicate about player role and desire to play . Typically in match with alectico today , illra has until 6 tackle ball . A good number of tackle ball when you defend but he don't really make influence on team . I have a feeling that he don't know where he must play how he play and which player of opponients he should chase . I think that 's why alectico blocked illara and alectico let kedira have ball . It is alectico 's plan Problem is ancelotti seem to have no clearly plan to fight with every opponent so we can't win our opponents easily .
     
  8. mymy33

    mymy33 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    At what point in the game did Benz and Pepe have their "discussion"?

    Anyway once Varane is back to full fitness, if it looks like he is picking up where he left off last summer, maybe Ancelotti should consider moving Pepe into the midfield until he figures this thing out. I'm not a fan in general off him as a DM but he might be our best option until Anclelotti has everyone healthy. We could use Mateos as backup CB until the midfield is "fixed.
     
  9. Last Boyscout

    Last Boyscout Member

    Apr 28, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    While I pretty much facepalm every time Khedira goes forward to attack, the level of blame he is catching in this forum is ridiculous.
    Khedira is a very limited player technically but how is that news? Khedira is a good player, when he does what he is good at, being the defensive player in a double 6. He's been playing this role very successfully for years in the german national team because he made virtually no mistakes in defensive play ever. Starting around the EM 2012 Khedira started going forward a lot more, back at the time I thought it was because Schweinsteiger was injured and not up to the task and that he had gotten the nod from Löw to fill that role. But ever since then he is going forward like all the ********ing time and I am still waiting for Löw or someone else to tell him to focus on defensive tasks like earlier in his career.
     
  10. Donzizu

    Donzizu Member

    Nov 7, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Exactly , as it looks now at the end of the seasson the following players will be gone,
    (Unless we are desperate and have to keep some of them)

    Pepe, Coentrao, Arbeloa, Khedira, Di Maria, Benz, ....... Xabi, Iker ???
     
  11. fanrealclub

    fanrealclub Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    yes and why ancelotti don't let pepe play role in DM . He is eager when he defends and will never go up to attack . give varrane back CB and push pepe make DM . Pepe will reduce maximum his mistakes when he make CB . In addtion , pepe also is used to it many times in last years . Please let pepe make DM like pep make with lamp at beyern
     
  12. Donzizu

    Donzizu Member

    Nov 7, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Did Modric had a minor injury or what?
    Up till yesterday he was a starter for most of the games.
    First serious test of the season and he is benched.
     
  13. Sarajevsko Pivo

    Sarajevsko Pivo Member+

    Oct 14, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    I respect Carlo as a coach, but his new way of playing is just ridiculous. He wants us to hold possession, play with patience and keep doing that til we find gaps in the opponent's defence. Problem is, we don't have players who are used to play like this or are good fits for this system. Except for Modric of course but that's only one individual. Another thing is that we're now preventing Ronaldo to play on his best. A winger like Cristiano needs space to function, but all of it is taken away by our midfielders. We all know Isco likes to hug the box, Modric is always in the opponents half and Khedira is an attacking minded player, but at the same time while doing that, you're limiting Cristiano's space. This is the reason this team is so well in counters because Ronaldo has the entire pitch for himself. Right now, he has to work with inches and it's noticeable.
     
  14. MadridFan22304

    MadridFan22304 Member+

    Apr 26, 2012
    DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we have attitude problems. That was pretty listless. Atletico looked to be playing harder than we did.
     
  15. MadridOzil

    MadridOzil Member+

    Jun 6, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Based on what?
     
  16. fanrealclub

    fanrealclub Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    yes and that 's attitude but it is also ancelotti can't have a clear plans to fight with alectico . He want us to keep possession , keep patience and find gap in opponnent . But he also don't have clear plan to prevent their imoprtant players . Sorry but how you can fight with a team who don't have gap like alectico if you don't have a clear plan . Although I don't like mou but at least our player know what they must do on field . Now ? No all mess , all players run out their positions because they don't know what they must do . They play according to their nature . That 's why alectico easily win us
     
  17. jeremy123

    jeremy123 Red Card

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    There is only one solution to our problems. The answer can be found in CASEMIROOOO

    In all seriousness why has Ancelotti not even given him a chance? He matches Khedira in physicality and is more creative with the ball. He is also a threat from set pieces. It's interesting to note that are best football has been during pre season with Casemiro and Ozil in the team :laugh:
     
  18. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Is it that hard to understand?

    He does NOT have enough faith in the youngsters.For the same reason he keeps on playing Benz instead of giving chance to Morata/Jese and he'll continue playing Khedira in place of Casemiro.
     
  19. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    My thoughts exactly, Ronaldo is not good at it, Bale is not good at it, Khedira ,Arbeloa, Benzema nowadays can't seem to hold on to the ball to string two passes together, the one person who could hold the ball and find some solutions is gone, feels like nearly half our starting line up aren't capable of playing this way anyhow, especially our supposedly two main attacking threats, doesn't seem to make sense to continue down that path, hopefully the players will adapt soon or we'll change the system
     
  20. mymy33

    mymy33 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    I don't think it has anything to do with lack of faith in the youngsters. Casemiro, for example, was very good during the preseason and against Betis but he showed his naivete against Granada. I find it silly that some of you clamoring for the Brazilian now are the same ones who cried when we signed him. Ancelotti has been very clear that he will bring Casemiro along slowly and considering his recent past that is a sound idea.
     
  21. fanrealclub

    fanrealclub Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    yes , I also think why he couldn't use casermiro though he give casermiro many chnces before . I don't understand why ancelotti like to let illara pair with kedira while does kedira supply things which illara really need ?
     
  22. Donzizu

    Donzizu Member

    Nov 7, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Inside info ;)
     
  23. Álvaro Morata

    Nov 28, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Marcelo - every year i'm more and more confident in one simple thing, Marcelo is our hidden playmaker! That's a statement that i made to friend 3 years ago, when Marcelo missed a couple of games due to injury. Season after season this makes more and more sense.

    Last year in the exact part of the season as this year, we were missing Marcelo (Coentrao also) and our style of play and everything was just awful, and of course we lost a lot of points in La Liga. This year Marcelo got injured again ... and here we are again struggling like hell in La Liga with some pretty awful left wing performance.

    For me Marcelo is crucial for our gameplay, his combinations with Ronaldo and everything he gives to our style of play when in attack .... is something irreplaceable at the moment.
     
  24. jeremy123

    jeremy123 Red Card

    May 22, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Well Jese was left out of the squad completely last night. Is that faith in the youngsters?
     
  25. mymy33

    mymy33 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    Maybe not but I think from the starting lineup he trotted out there he favored a more pragmatic approach. He is Italian afterall. Seven games into the season is too early to declare he has no faith in our youngsters.

    @Alvaro Morata I totally agree with your sentiment on Marcelo. I've said for the past two seasons that he is in fact a playmaker for us, no doubt. He and Isco looked very promising as well linking up and having him back will be a boost.
     

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